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(News.com.au)   Texting driver jailed for killing cyclist. He'll BRB in 20 months, LOL   (news.com.au) divider line 119
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2011-11-11 08:28:56 PM
First sentence in the article mentions he was drunk and subby went with texting. I'm going to need my popcorn for this one.
 
2011-11-11 08:36:55 PM

JanusofZeal: First sentence in the article mentions he was drunk and subby went with texting. I'm going to need my popcorn for this one.


Either way it shows how the U.S. doesn't treat murder by automobile like murder by ax or frying pan. "Oh, he was driving? That should be a slap on the butt, not a real murder."
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2011-11-11 08:39:28 PM
He was also charged with driving with a low-range PCA.

According to the internet, that means .05% to .08%. Not anywhere close to "drunk." Plausible two beers range for somebody small.

Up here if you text and kill you're probably looking at a few months, but if you blow .08% and kill it's minimum one year to serve and usually longer. Is Australia the same?
 
2011-11-11 08:42:10 PM
FTA: "Jason Noel Rippard, 31, was jailed for three years and four months in the NSW District Court in Gosford on the central coast today."

[...]

"He has been disqualified from holding a drivers licence until November 2014."


Well, at least he'll get his license back four months before he gets out of jail.


/RIP, Rippard
 
2011-11-11 09:05:30 PM

2wolves: JanusofZeal: First sentence in the article mentions he was drunk and subby went with texting. I'm going to need my popcorn for this one.

Either way it shows how the U.S. doesn't treat murder by automobile like murder by ax or frying pan. "Oh, he was driving? That should be a slap on the butt, not a real murder."


Killing a cyclist is one of those things where we want to make it illegal to keep up safe when we ride bikes, but asshole cyclists are so bad even other cyclists are prayin' "Oh please god let someone hit Larry and back over him to finish the job."

If this was a pedestrian things would be different.
 
2011-11-11 09:17:53 PM
He was also charged with driving with a low-range PCA.

What?
 
2011-11-11 09:32:57 PM
If the cyclist had been on the sidewalk where he belonged, then this wouldn't be an issue.
 
2011-11-11 10:15:52 PM

2wolves: Either way it shows how the U.S. doesn't treat murder by automobile like murder by ax or frying pan. "Oh, he was driving? That should be a slap on the butt, not a real murder."


Well, yeah. Unless they can prove he intentionally ran the guy down, it was an accident. It's harder to slip and kill someone with an ax.
 
2011-11-11 10:42:34 PM

Mugato: 2wolves: Either way it shows how the U.S. doesn't treat murder by automobile like murder by ax or frying pan. "Oh, he was driving? That should be a slap on the butt, not a real murder."

Well, yeah. Unless they can prove he intentionally ran the guy down, it was an accident. It's harder to slip and kill someone with an ax.


Doesn't even have to be an accident. You can have video of a driver ^ intentionally running into a bicyclist and no charges will be filed. And non-riders wonder why some bicyclists can have such attitude
 
2011-11-11 11:02:35 PM

2wolves: Either way it shows how the U.S. doesn't treat murder by automobile like murder by ax or frying pan. "Oh, he was driving? That should be a slap on the butt, not a real murder."


Show me the intent. Show me the malice aforethought.

Yeah 20 months is too little though. I worked with a guy who got probation for not wearing his corrective lenses and running down a little girl on her bike. Sucks.
 
2011-11-11 11:13:22 PM
I guess I just don't understand it. In my state, some guy who robbed 3 houses and one business over the course of 2 years was just sentenced 20 years in prison, up for parole in 12. The guy wasn't even armed when he robbed the houses - and I honestly can't say if he was when he robbed the casio or not. Then our former Govenor, who has been issued MANY citations for speeding during his tenure, runs a stop sign, killing a man on a motorcycle. He spent 60 days in jail. I just don't get it.....where is common sense in sentencing. I am by no means saying that robbery and theft isn't a crime and a huge problem...but I think death of a human being due to neglect of others kind of tips the scales...
 
2011-11-11 11:15:41 PM

xl5150: If the cyclist had been on the sidewalk where he belonged, then this wouldn't be an issue.


8/10.. Simple, short and sweet..
 
2011-11-11 11:16:58 PM

2wolves: JanusofZeal: First sentence in the article mentions he was drunk and subby went with texting. I'm going to need my popcorn for this one.

Either way it shows how the U.S. doesn't treat murder by automobile like murder by ax or frying pan. "Oh, he was driving? That should be a slap on the butt, not a real murder."


See that .au and the words "Central Coast"? Guess what country that's in. Hint: Not the U.S.
 
2011-11-11 11:17:18 PM
Why is this news? Who cares?

Personally, I lol'd that a douche bicyclist was hit at night. All that was recognizable was his 4 LiveStrong bracelets and a blood smear across the pavement.
 
2011-11-11 11:17:22 PM

1bzymomma: I guess I just don't understand it. In my state, some guy who robbed 3 houses and one business over the course of 2 years was just sentenced 20 years in prison, up for parole in 12. The guy wasn't even armed when he robbed the houses - and I honestly can't say if he was when he robbed the casio or not. Then our former Govenor, who has been issued MANY citations for speeding during his tenure, runs a stop sign, killing a man on a motorcycle. He spent 60 days in jail. I just don't get it.....where is common sense in sentencing. I am by no means saying that robbery and theft isn't a crime and a huge problem...but I think death of a human being due to neglect of others kind of tips the scales...


Because most likely the guy robbing the houses was black and a lowlife without political connections and money. Is it really that hard to figure out? I'm not saying it's right or that you have to agree with it, but pretending to be perplexed about why this would happen just makes you look completely naive.
 
2011-11-11 11:17:46 PM

1bzymomma: where is common sense in sentencing.


Out partying with the lawmakers?

Also, I totally agree.
 
2011-11-11 11:19:42 PM

1bzymomma: where is common sense in sentencing.


Well, 60 days in jail plus the $20,000 bribe donation seems like common sense to me.

Hopefully this thread reaches 9000 comments when i get back from work. Texting, drinking, driving and cyclists. It's even be fine if some politics trolls show up.
 
2011-11-11 11:20:44 PM

HellRaisingHoosier: All that was recognizable was his 4 LiveStrong bracelets and a blood smear across the pavement.


Whereas your fat ass can be seen from space.
 
2011-11-11 11:22:54 PM
Came for the Natural Born Killers reference

...sill looking
 
2011-11-11 11:23:35 PM

bmihura: See that .au and the words "Central Coast"? Guess what country that's in. Hint: Not the U.S.


Wait a second. If this is Australia, how is there a center coast? There's desert in the center. No coast.

Did someone divide by zero or try to calculate the square root of negative one?
 
2011-11-11 11:25:17 PM
Mad Max would have been a tenacious texter...

"Whar gas whar!?1?" BOOM!
 
2011-11-11 11:25:28 PM

Cpl.D: If this is Australia, how is there a center coast?


It's an island. There are 4 center coasts.
 
2011-11-11 11:34:23 PM

AppleOptionEsc: 1bzymomma: where is common sense in sentencing.

Well, 60 days in jail plus the $20,000 bribe donation seems like common sense to me.

Hopefully this thread reaches 9000 comments when i get back from work. Texting, drinking, driving and cyclists. It's even be fine if some politics trolls show up.


The asshole cyclists could have bought a car if it wasn't for Fartbongo's economy
 
2011-11-11 11:34:40 PM

xl5150: 1bzymomma: I guess I just don't understand it. In my state, some guy who robbed 3 houses and one business over the course of 2 years was just sentenced 20 years in prison, up for parole in 12. The guy wasn't even armed when he robbed the houses - and I honestly can't say if he was when he robbed the casio or not. Then our former Govenor, who has been issued MANY citations for speeding during his tenure, runs a stop sign, killing a man on a motorcycle. He spent 60 days in jail. I just don't get it.....where is common sense in sentencing. I am by no means saying that robbery and theft isn't a crime and a huge problem...but I think death of a human being due to neglect of others kind of tips the scales...

Because most likely the guy robbing the houses was black and a lowlife without political connections and money. Is it really that hard to figure out? I'm not saying it's right or that you have to agree with it, but pretending to be perplexed about why this would happen just makes you look completely naive.


Not black, but poor. Worked as a cook at a restuarant...college drop out, frequented bars, but these were his first brushes with the law. It's not hard to figure out the jist of it...I get that. I am just wondering how society has slipped so far...and does it ever stop.
 
2011-11-11 11:37:00 PM

2wolves: Either way it shows how the U.S. doesn't treat murder by automobile like murder by ax or frying pan. "Oh, he was driving? That should be a slap on the butt, not a real murder."


^ This.

You want to kill someone and get away with it? Easy! Run them over, then tell the cops you couldn't see because of glare or you spilled coffee on your lap while changing tracks on your iPod.
 
2011-11-11 11:37:12 PM
20 months for killing a human being out of complete negligence, yet you get can 15 years for having some pot.

Sometimes I feel like this country needs to be burned to the ground.
 
2011-11-11 11:37:26 PM

xl5150: If the cyclist had been on the sidewalk where he belonged, then this wouldn't be an issue.


Uh, that's illegal
 
2011-11-11 11:54:35 PM
It's very unfortunate that MADD turned into MAA (Mothers Against Alcohol) ... here in Texas drunk driving is still considered socially acceptable, rather like Europe in the 1960s
 
2011-11-11 11:54:39 PM

MayContainHorseGluten: Uh, that's illegal


I've wondered why, but never cared enough to look up. It seems less dangerous to ride on the sidewalk, and if there happen to be pedestrians the bicyclist can simply slow down, much in the way bicyclists always make cars slow down.
 
2011-11-11 11:56:10 PM
Please excuse my poor comma placement abilities.
 
2011-11-11 11:56:45 PM

hangloose: MayContainHorseGluten: Uh, that's illegal

I've wondered why, but never cared enough to look up. It seems less dangerous to ride on the sidewalk, and if there happen to be pedestrians the bicyclist can simply slow down, much in the way bicyclists always make cars slow down.


I can tell you've never tried walking in Amsterdam while stoned out of your face ... cyclists everywhere. However, they usually stick to dedicated bike lanes, and they do get ticketed for asshole-ish riding.

/I do agree that it's time to move horses and bikes off the public roads used by modern motor vehicles
 
2011-11-11 11:57:36 PM

ZAZ: He was also charged with driving with a low-range PCA.

According to the internet, that means .05% to .08%. Not anywhere close to "drunk." Plausible two beers range for somebody small.


But Zaz, have you seen the size of their beer cans?
 
2011-11-11 11:57:43 PM

2wolves: JanusofZeal: First sentence in the article mentions he was drunk and subby went with texting. I'm going to need my popcorn for this one.

Either way it shows how the U.S. doesn't treat murder by automobile like murder by ax or frying pan. "Oh, he was driving? That should be a slap on the butt, not a real murder."


what does the US have to do with anything here?
and yes... accidentally killing somebody with a car on the road is different than bludgeoning them to death with a frying pan. Intent is an important part of any murder charge.
 
2011-11-11 11:59:13 PM

1bzymomma: some guy who robbed 3 houses and one business over the course of 2 years was just sentenced 20 years in prison, up for parole in 12. The guy wasn't even armed when he robbed the houses


Robbery is theft accomplished by violence or the threat of violence. Burglary is theft by being sneaky.

If the guy did commit robbery, then the sentence is appropriate. It doesn't matter if he was armed or not.

If he was a burglar, then maybe it's a bit over the top.
 
2011-11-12 12:01:39 AM
X15150 - If the cyclist had been on the sidewalk where he belonged, then this wouldn't be an issue.
\

I must take issue with this ludicrosity...The sidewalk is where I navigate my horse and buggy....
 
2011-11-12 12:05:42 AM

ParaHandy: they usually stick to dedicated bike lanes


The bike lanes around here are literally in the middle of the road with about 3 feet of clearance on either side of oncoming and opposing traffic. We also got a new signal flasher to stop drivers so bicyclists can cross the road, except the problem is that the bike trail is completely invisible until you reach the flashers. This had lead to many bicyclists getting hit because they won't slow down before entering the road, and the drivers can't stop in time.
 
2011-11-12 12:05:49 AM

The_Original_Roxtar: accidentally killing somebody with a car on the road is different than bludgeoning them to death with a frying pan


Just tonight I parked in a space at a strip mall that was directly adjacent to the throughway. I opened my door, and a dude on a bicycle slammed into it.

That was an accident.

If I were to run a guy over and kill him because I was looking at my goddamn phone instead of the road, I'd be the first to say that I should definitely do more than a couple years in prison and not be allowed to drive again for a lot longer than that.
 
2011-11-12 12:10:48 AM

2wolves: JanusofZeal: First sentence in the article mentions he was drunk and subby went with texting. I'm going to need my popcorn for this one.

Either way it shows how the U.S. doesn't treat murder by automobile like murder by ax or frying pan. "Oh, he was driving? That should be a slap on the butt, not a real murder."


Australia.
 
2011-11-12 12:12:29 AM

austin_millbarge: 20 months for killing a human being out of complete negligence, yet you get can 15 years for having some pot.

Sometimes I feel like this country needs to be burned to the ground.


And by "this country," you mean Australia, right?
 
2011-11-12 12:13:59 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFISP_PrhFo
 
2011-11-12 12:15:30 AM

hangloose: I've wondered why, but never cared enough to look up. It seems less dangerous to ride on the sidewalk, and if there happen to be pedestrians the bicyclist can simply slow down, much in the way bicyclists always make cars slow down.


You have obviously never ridden a bicycle on a sidewalk since you were 4 and going 2 miles per hour.

It's unsafe for both pedestrians and cyclists to bike on a sidewalk. Period. Full stop.

If you can't tolerate cyclists sharing the road with you (we pay taxes into the general fund for road construction just like you) then the problem isn't with the cyclist.
 
2011-11-12 12:16:32 AM

1bzymomma: I honestly can't say if he was when he robbed the casio or not.


How exactly does one rob a Casio?

antinorm.zenblue.net
 
2011-11-12 12:16:50 AM

bubo_sibiricus: If you can't tolerate cyclists sharing the road with you (we pay taxes into the general fund for road construction just like you) then the problem isn't with the cyclist.


Motorcyclists are no problem.
 
2011-11-12 12:27:31 AM

1bzymomma: xl5150: 1bzymomma: I guess I just don't understand it. In my state, some guy who robbed 3 houses and one business over the course of 2 years was just sentenced 20 years in prison, up for parole in 12. The guy wasn't even armed when he robbed the houses - and I honestly can't say if he was when he robbed the casio or not. Then our former Govenor, who has been issued MANY citations for speeding during his tenure, runs a stop sign, killing a man on a motorcycle. He spent 60 days in jail. I just don't get it.....where is common sense in sentencing. I am by no means saying that robbery and theft isn't a crime and a huge problem...but I think death of a human being due to neglect of others kind of tips the scales...

Because most likely the guy robbing the houses was black and a lowlife without political connections and money. Is it really that hard to figure out? I'm not saying it's right or that you have to agree with it, but pretending to be perplexed about why this would happen just makes you look completely naive.

Not black, but poor. Worked as a cook at a restuarant...college drop out, frequented bars, but these were his first brushes with the law. It's not hard to figure out the jist of it...I get that. I am just wondering how society has slipped so far...and does it ever stop.


Lemme guess, South Dakota. That's easy to figure out. It's because that state is populated by racist douchebags. Bill Janklow has done far worse than just kill that man on the motorcycle. He used his political status to steal Indian children from their homes to be put into orphanages that he owns. Under his watch all Indian foster children were designated "special needs" children - who get increased federal funding. He has social services take the kids away from their families for trumped-up reasons and shuttles them into his orphanage for profit despite federal law that says they should be placed with family members or with Indian foster families.
He also owns boot camps, where he has had social services direct troubled youth. There he kills those children.
Oops.
He raped two minor girls before he became governor, and used that fact to become governor. He campaigned as the "anti-Indian" candidate and won four terms as governor and then was elected to the house on that platform. He got elected because South Dakota is replete with racist assholes who will vote for a fascist over anyone else just because he hates Indians as much as they do.
South Dakota is the most corrupt state government I have ever seen, and the most racist place I have ever lived (including Georgia and France.) South Dakota deserves what it gets.
 
2011-11-12 12:27:54 AM

relaxitsjustme: Mugato: 2wolves: Either way it shows how the U.S. doesn't treat murder by automobile like murder by ax or frying pan. "Oh, he was driving? That should be a slap on the butt, not a real murder."

Well, yeah. Unless they can prove he intentionally ran the guy down, it was an accident. It's harder to slip and kill someone with an ax.

Doesn't even have to be an accident. You can have video of a driver ^ intentionally running into a bicyclist and no charges will be filed. And non-riders wonder why some bicyclists can have such attitude


Good. And he lived, so hopefully this guy will tell his tale to the others so they will stay out of the way.
 
2011-11-12 12:33:17 AM

xl5150: Good. And he lived, so hopefully this guy will tell his tale to the others so they will stay out of the way.


You're a waste of about 250 lbs of flesh
 
2011-11-12 12:42:15 AM

whatshisname: xl5150: Good. And he lived, so hopefully this guy will tell his tale to the others so they will stay out of the way.

You're a waste of about 250 lbs of flesh


I'd say the bigger waste of flesh is rubbing it all off onto the pavement when you're knocked off your bike by a truck because you're blocking the road. At least I'm keeping mine on my body.
 
2011-11-12 12:44:23 AM
I saw this woman hung up at a improvised intersection next to the building entrance in a busy wal-mart parking lot texting.

She wasn't moving but she sure wasn't helping the situation by disengaging eye contact.

As long as driving texters get away with public speaking engagements and no jail time they will not get it.

Just stop it.
 
2011-11-12 12:47:53 AM

xl5150: If the cyclist had been on the sidewalk where he belonged, then this wouldn't be an issue.


Are you kidding? If the cyclist was on the sidewalk the auto driver would have had to be really drunk!
/Cyclists on sidewalks are much more likely to be hit by vehicles at intersections. Drivers cannot see or expect them.
//And likewise by your silly reasoning, if the driver was on the sidewalk (where he belonged) it would be no issue either.
At least he is now off the road- where he belongs; in jail.
 
2011-11-12 12:50:31 AM

2wolves: JanusofZeal: First sentence in the article mentions he was drunk and subby went with texting. I'm going to need my popcorn for this one.

Either way it shows how the U.S. doesn't treat murder by automobile like murder by ax or frying pan. "Oh, he was driving? That should be a slap on the butt, not a real murder."


He should have been dragged from the car and beat to death.
 
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