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		Penn state attorney who reviewed the 1998 allegations against Jerry Sandusky also happened to represent the Second Mile at the time. Huh. That was convenient (deadspin.com)		624
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dj_bigbird

2011-11-11 11:32:13 AM

If the stuff happening with Penn State was in a movie script, you'd never sell it because it's so improbable.

srhp29

2011-11-11 01:39:54 PM

Jesus. It just gets deeper and deeper and deeper...

Boeheimian Rhapsody

2011-11-11 01:41:10 PM

can i just fast forward a few months (years) to the part where we find all of the excruciatingly sick details so i can learn them all at once and be done with it?

It seems every day is a new detail that just turns your stomache all over again.

kudayta

2011-11-11 01:42:07 PM

What are the odds this scandal ties in with Watergate somehow?

/JoePa did get denied a national championship when Nixon awarded it to Texas before the bowl games were even played

proximo

2011-11-11 01:43:34 PM

srhp29: Jesus. It just gets deeper and deeper and deeper...

That's what Sandusky was thinking.

/window seat
//I'm as disguested and mad as anyone (see other threads), but I couldn't help it.

PowerSlacker

2011-11-11 01:43:42 PM

And I'm sure that Joe Paterno didn't know about this at all. Just like he was blissfully unaware of why Sandusky "chose" to retire in 1999.

proximo

2011-11-11 01:44:33 PM

proximo: srhp29: Jesus. It just gets deeper and deeper and deeper...

That's what Sandusky was thinking.

/window seat
//I'm as disguested and mad as anyone (see other threads), but I couldn't help it.

///I'm also disgusted and my inability to type disgusted

DubyaHater

2011-11-11 01:46:02 PM

I don't see the conflict of interest here. Just because he was the appointed outside council for the University who employed the accused, while also representing the accused's Non-Profit, which was allegedly used to pimp out young boys. So he was the lawyer appointed to review the allegations against Sandusky. What? Was this a problem? Should he not have done that?

MugzyBrown

2011-11-11 01:48:19 PM

This is a stretch.

The DA reviewed it. He had nothing to do with PSU

Lost Thought 00

2011-11-11 01:48:51 PM

Every single person over the age of 25 who lived in Happy Valley between 1990 and 2010 knew and was in on the coverup.

MFAWG

2011-11-11 01:49:08 PM

For the life of me I can't understand the decision to cover this guy up TWICE.

FFS WHY would you that?

Captain Steroid

2011-11-11 01:52:45 PM

Follow the money...

PowerSlacker

2011-11-11 01:55:26 PM

MFAWG: For the life of me I can't understand the decision to cover this guy up TWICE.

FFS WHY would you that?

Joe Paterno had records to break. Winning games and setting records is all that mattered to him and to the rest of those involved with this scandal.

OtherLittleGuy

2011-11-11 01:56:27 PM

dj_bigbird: If the stuff happening with Penn State was in a movie script, you'd never sell it because it's so improbable.

Maybe a Lifetime movie.

Oh, and the number of people getting hard time or indictments from a Federal level will depend on PA as an Electoral swing state.

/so, yeah, it will be Obama's fault

Treygreen13

2011-11-11 01:57:02 PM

Last night, my trivia team was named the State Penn Nittany Lions. We came in 2nd, for $20.

/CSB

Minimum

2011-11-11 01:57:11 PM

I would like to know why the first guy, the grad student, did not stop the assault.
He needs to burn with the rest of them

I'm not a particularly religious man, but if there is a hell, I'm betting there is a special place for this bunch.

A Fark Handle

2011-11-11 01:58:20 PM

i'm telling you it was an ongoing cover-up since 1998. the 2002 shower incidence just added a few more folks to the cover-up.

calbert

2011-11-11 01:59:43 PM

and one more time:

farm7.static.flickr.com

Sandusky's fate

ATRDCI

2011-11-11 02:00:01 PM

Paterno: What should I do?
Should I admit I'd made mistakes?
Should I remind you I've done this before?
Should I give you a history lesson?
What should I do?
Should I tell you have much fun we had?

Should I really believe I ruined my legacy?
What should I do?
What should I do?
What should I do?

Should I have had my coach removed?
Wanna see my shinning championship trophies?
Should I just sell tickets?
Or should I tell you I am not a role mode?
Gotcha
Seriously, what should I do?
Should I tell you I'm a champion chaser?
Did it for the money?
Should I be who you want me to be?
Should I except my role?
As a villain?
Maybe I should just disappear.

Should I stop listening to my friends?
They're my friends.

Should I try acting?
Should I be writing this down?

Should I make you laugh?
Should I read you a soulful poem?
Shopt me with your words.
You may cut me with your eyes
But still like air, I'll rise.

Should we just clear the deck and start over?
What should I do?

Should I be who you want me to be?

DoctorOfLove

2011-11-11 02:01:45 PM

the nebraska game is going to be pr catastrophe for PSU, and I predict the BoT will terminate the season next week. The only way out of this is to hire Urban Meyer and have him fire everyone on the football staff on Tuesday.

mikaloyd

2011-11-11 02:03:10 PM

dj_bigbird: If the stuff happening with Penn State was in a movie script, you'd never sell it because it's so improbable.

Plus there is a limited market for movies with boys getting raped in showers.

You know, outside of the mahogany halls of Penn State football coaches.

Impasse

2011-11-11 02:04:09 PM

If you look closely you'll see it's actually Thermite pouring out of the 11 year old's ass, proving that it wasn't Sandusky that slammed into him and causing structural failure.

Who's Now

2011-11-11 02:04:18 PM

Treygreen13: Last night, my trivia team was named the State Penn Nittany Lions. We came in 2nd, for $20.

/CSB

Sandusky came first.

taxandspend

2011-11-11 02:05:29 PM

Every time I hear about this story I think of the Law and Order: SVU episode "Personal Fouls" where a big shot NBA player admits he was raped by his coach that ran a teen mentoring program. Usually, L&O stories are based off real events. This one seemed to based off a conviction that hadn't happened yet.

Just sayin'

Lost Thought 00

2011-11-11 02:06:50 PM

DoctorOfLove: the nebraska game is going to be pr catastrophe for PSU, and I predict the BoT will terminate the season next week. The only way out of this is to hire Urban Meyer and have him fire everyone on the football staff on Tuesday.

That wouldn't help a damn thing, and it would cost the Big10 conference as a whole tens of millions of dollars. This has nothing to do with football and everything to do with rape. You can't fix rape by trying to fix football.

howdyyall9999

2011-11-11 02:06:52 PM

MugzyBrown: This is a stretch.

The DA reviewed it. He had nothing to do with PSU

Stretch? While acting as counsel for one client he learned intimate details that another one his clients was committing terrible crimes that would affect the original client and that he might have to end up defending one of them? He remained in this conflicting position for approx 12 years?

"reviewed that police report on behalf of the school before submitting it to the Centre Country District Attorney" I doubt "reviewed" in this context just means he read it.

Just RICO the whole damn mess now and get the Feds involved.

mikaloyd

2011-11-11 02:08:57 PM

Hung Like A Tic-Tac

2011-11-11 02:09:07 PM

calbert: and one more time:

[farm7.static.flickr.com image 640x350]

Sandusky's fate

This should be his fate:

beta_plus

2011-11-11 02:15:32 PM

DubyaHater: I don't see the conflict of interest here. Just because he was the appointed outside council for the University who employed the accused, while also representing the accused's Non-Profit, which was allegedly used to pimp out young boys. So he was the lawyer appointed to review the allegations against Sandusky. What? Was this a problem? Should he not have done that?

mancrush.com

IAmRight

2011-11-11 02:15:47 PM

taxandspend: Every time I hear about this story I think of the Law and Order: SVU episode "Personal Fouls" where a big shot NBA player admits he was raped by his coach that ran a teen mentoring program. Usually, L&O stories are based off real events. This one seemed to based off a conviction that hadn't happened yet.

Just sayin'

Well, it had happened in hockey before, Theo Fleury being one of the people noted for having been raped as a kid.

/not the best way to describe how terrible it is, but part of Fleury's own words: "I tried to make it go away with alcohol and drugs and hookers"
//saying it that way makes it sound almost desirable

mc_madness

2011-11-11 02:16:54 PM

Ray Gricar was about to break the pedo ring.

They got to him before he broke the case wide open.

howdyyall9999

2011-11-11 02:17:59 PM

mc_madness: Ray Gricar was about to break the pedo ring.

They got to him before he broke the case wide open.

I think it was suicide over the guilt of what he helped cover up. Then again, why would he destroy all the evidence...

The Gordie Howe Hat Trick

2011-11-11 02:19:02 PM

howdyyall9999: mc_madness: Ray Gricar was about to break the pedo ring.

They got to him before he broke the case wide open.

I think it was suicide over the guilt of what he helped cover up. Then again, why would he destroy all the evidence...

Protecting his own family?

PowerSlacker

2011-11-11 02:19:31 PM

DoctorOfLove: the nebraska game is going to be pr catastrophe for PSU, and I predict the BoT will terminate the season next week. The only way out of this is to hire Urban Meyer and have him fire everyone on the football staff on Tuesday.

Why would Meyer take the State Penn job over the Ohio State job (or any number of other jobs for that matter)?

Doogled

2011-11-11 02:21:44 PM

howdyyall9999

2011-11-11 02:22:22 PM

The Gordie Howe Hat Trick: howdyyall9999: mc_madness: Ray Gricar was about to break the pedo ring.

They got to him before he broke the case wide open.

I think it was suicide over the guilt of what he helped cover up. Then again, why would he destroy all the evidence...

Protecting his own family?

I would think he would have that mea culpa suicide note attached to the files so that his family wouldn't live under the cloud of suspicion

John Nash

2011-11-11 02:23:21 PM

F*cking idiot. Real smart to lie about your association wtih 2nd mile and focus attention on yourself.

IAmRight

2011-11-11 02:27:56 PM

mc_madness: Ray Gricar was about to break the pedo ring.

They got to him before he broke the case wide open.

Why wouldn't they just kill Sandusky? Once one guy's under investigation, he's a threat.

DoctorOfLove

2011-11-11 02:29:43 PM

PowerSlacker: DoctorOfLove: the nebraska game is going to be pr catastrophe for PSU, and I predict the BoT will terminate the season next week. The only way out of this is to hire Urban Meyer and have him fire everyone on the football staff on Tuesday.

Why would Meyer take the State Penn job over the Ohio State job (or any number of other jobs for that matter)?

He wouldn't but it's the only way for the BoT to change the story. Hi Urban, yeah, Governor Corbett here, how does 5 mil a year sound....ok, how does 10 mil in the first year and 7.5 a year thereafter sound.... Otherwise, day after day, week after week, PSU is just going to get hammered on this. And they can't bring in some no name, they have to bring someone sufficiently famous to change the story line. I can think of Meyer, maybe Cowher, someone to give the talking heads something else to talk about. Otherwise, the rest of the season is going to be a nightmare, and by the end of it, they will have wished they cancelled it.

And it has to be someone who never went to or worked for PSU.

I'm not a PSU alum, but I am sure as hell watching the game tomorrow.

BalugaJoe

2011-11-11 02:30:48 PM

Ashton Kutchner supports this.

another cultural observer

2011-11-11 02:31:10 PM

Son of a biatch! If only I'd started up my little-tiny-blue-ribbbon factory in time! You can bet that Saturday's game will feature 10's of thousands of little-tiny-blue-ribbons!

I could have been rich peddling those things to people who think it makes them care about child abuse.

Mark my words. Blue ribbons on the announcers' lapels, on the coach's jackets, on the player's helmets, on every brat in the student section. Because it means they care.

The Gordie Howe Hat Trick

2011-11-11 02:32:31 PM

AbbeySomeone

2011-11-11 02:34:05 PM

howdyyall9999: The Gordie Howe Hat Trick: howdyyall9999: mc_madness: Ray Gricar was about to break the pedo ring.

They got to him before he broke the case wide open.

I think it was suicide over the guilt of what he helped cover up. Then again, why would he destroy all the evidence...

Protecting his own family?

I would think he would have that mea culpa suicide note attached to the files so that his family wouldn't live under the cloud of suspicion

His family said he would have left a note if that were the case and never would have done this. Sarcasm? He also disappeard his own body and destroyed the hard drive to his laptop before dumping it into the river.
This Courtney character needs to get his license revoked and face serious jail time.
As this unfolds more names will be revealed. It should be a good weekend there.
McQueary seems to be the least culpable at this point. I doubt he was able to report it properly or had extremely strong persuasion not to.

mikaloyd

2011-11-11 02:34:38 PM

We need a Penn State tag. These people just leave Florida standing at the gate for weirdness

another cultural observer

2011-11-11 02:34:51 PM

And by "factory" I mean "dealership", and by "ribbbon" I mean "ribbon". Cursed fingers. Jerry would know all about the cursed fingers.

Baron Underbite

2011-11-11 02:34:53 PM

MFAWG: For the life of me I can't understand the decision to cover this guy up TWICE.

FFS WHY would you that?

i figure someone had their name in Sandusky's little black book of people who he pimped children to.

lilbjorn

2011-11-11 02:34:55 PM

MugzyBrown: This is a stretch. The DA reviewed it. He had nothing to do with PSU

Old boy network vs. young boys

AbbeySomeone

2011-11-11 02:36:49 PM

Baron Underbite: MFAWG: For the life of me I can't understand the decision to cover this guy up TWICE.

FFS WHY would you that?

i figure someone had their name in Sandusky's little black book of people who he pimped children to.

good call.

lennavan

2011-11-11 02:37:28 PM

Boeheimian Rhapsody: can i just fast forward a few months (years) to the part where we find all of the excruciatingly sick details so i can learn them all at once and be done with it?

It seems every day is a new detail that just turns your stomache all over again.

Sure - Turns out there were all sorts of coaches, ex-players and administrators at Penn State who knew this stuff was going on. They knew it was going on but did what they could to cover it up and hide it to save their reputation. They purposely turned a blind eye to Sandusky raping children and pimping them out to rich donors to rape and abuse. This had been going on for decades, to dozens upon dozens of kids.

That's where I think this is going.

namegoeshere

2011-11-11 02:37:39 PM

Lost Thought 00: DoctorOfLove: the nebraska game is going to be pr catastrophe for PSU, and I predict the BoT will terminate the season next week. The only way out of this is to hire Urban Meyer and have him fire everyone on the football staff on Tuesday.

That wouldn't help a damn thing, and it would cost the Big10 conference as a whole tens of millions of dollars. This has nothing to do with football and everything to do with rape. You can't fix rape by trying to fix football.

A child was raped in the showers of the football team's locker room, which was witnessed by a GA of the football program, and reported to the head coach of the football team, (neither of whom ever repported it to CPS or to the police) and the administration of the school covered it up. It has everything to do with the football program.

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