THUNKS ALOT BUTTBONGO

What Obama may look like:

weird - the modmins changed "evil" to "stupid" in the headline. i wonder why.

I would expect nothing less from a treasonist such as Demint.

DeMint argued that passing such a tax break was simply catering to an interest group and predicted little hiring would come from the measure. "Despite the overwhelming evidence that these tax credits do not stimulate hiring for targeted groups, the Obama administration continues to push Congress to pass another tax credit, this time exclusively for veterans," he said. "By using a politically sensitive group the day before Veterans Day, the Democrats are hoping they can trick Republicans into further complicating the tax code."

They should have called it the Tax Credit for Hiring Veterans Because Think Of the Children and Save Homeless Puppies Without Any Adverse Effect on Taxpayers Bill.

I'll probably be accused of not supporting veterans by the politicians pandering for their votes,"

Pandering for veteran votes? Most of them will still vote for your dumb ass, don't worry.

the Democrats are hoping they can trick Republicans into further complicating the tax code."

Getting a $9,600 tax credit for hiring someone who can take orders and work hard as a member of a team? Yes, that is very complicated and not worth the 5 minutes to fill out.

This guy really knows how to use the media. No such thing as bad press when you have a lock on your Senate seat. Just helps him at fundraising time. "See, I stood up to Grinchbama when no one else would. Would you kindly enclose a check for $1,000 to help my campaign." He'll make money off this, guaranteed.

He's right. It is pandering and kissing ass to one group. Because they f*cking deserve it.

DeMint later voted in favor of the larger bill to which the veterans amendment was added

Oh... I see what you did there. Asshole.

NewportBarGuy: I'll probably be accused of not supporting veterans by the politicians pandering for their votes,"

Pandering for veteran votes? Most of them will still vote for your dumb ass, don't worry.

the Democrats are hoping they can trick Republicans into further complicating the tax code."

Getting a $9,600 tax credit for hiring someone who can take orders and work hard as a member of a team? Yes, that is very complicated and not worth the 5 minutes to fill out.

This guy really knows how to use the media. No such thing as bad press when you have a lock on your Senate seat. Just helps him at fundraising time. "See, I stood up to Grinchbama when no one else would. Would you kindly enclose a check for $1,000 to help my campaign." He'll make money off this, guaranteed.

You know it's bad when he thinks McConnell is too soft on Obama.

NewportBarGuy: Getting a $9,600 tax credit for hiring someone who can take orders and work hard as a member of a team? Yes, that is very complicated

So what you're saying is businesses already have an incentive to hire veterans?

FlashHarry: weird - the modmins changed "evil" to "stupid" in the headline. i wonder why.

They can use this whenever they want.

serial_crusher: So what you're saying is businesses already have an incentive to hire veterans?

They do, but at a time when unemployment is high, you need to kick employers in the ass with some cash to get them to hire. Demand is not really high enough to spur them to hire on their own, so the theory is that if we can get more people employed, those employees will use their new revenue source to increase demand, justify the hiring, and hopefully create a multiplier effect to add even more jobs.

It's really the only option in an economy like this. Either that, or we sit here and wait, and pray.

They are targeting vets because they have a fairly high unemployment rate as a group, and they feel that they owe them something for their service. It also looks good to the media and voters. Personally, I'd prefer they offer this to all groups and we see what we can do about the unemployment rate. You have to spend money to make money. I'd be willing to cut unemployment benefits on the extensions and use that money for the tax credit program. It would hopefully work out better than just giving people a check to look on their own. But, the cost of hiring a worker can often exceed the credit, and without a guarantee in demand growth, that is all kinds of risky. Considering we jump for joy at a tenth of a percent decrease in unemployment, I'm willing to try anything at this point.

DeMint argued that passing such a tax break was simply catering to an interest group and predicted little hiring would come from the measure.

...then ten seconds later stressed how important it was to make sure that the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy stayed in place.

SoCalSurfer: Should've voted for Alvin Greene

I actually did...

he might not have been the sharpest tool in the box but I would prefer his intelligence level to what we have now...

Kinda like Tom Cullen v. R Flagg

serial_crusher: NewportBarGuy: Getting a $9,600 tax credit for hiring someone who can take orders and work hard as a member of a team? Yes, that is very complicated

So what you're saying is businesses already have an incentive to hire veterans?

Well yes, for the above reasons, and no, because the psychological damage of conflict is unknown for any individual.

Paranoid old white man is paranoid

Wait, there may be a bigger tool out there than John Cornyn? Or Coburn? Or Inhofe? Unpossible!

Well, it IS pandering and guilt-tripping, but since veterans don't get nearly the care they deserve after their service I have no problem with this.

Silly Obama! Tricks are for kids.

I hear he's also strongly against discount bus fares for war widows.

/lousy moochin' war widows

When your party's philosophy is that the government can do no right, any effort by the government to do right, must be a trick.

Well, we all know those people are good-for-nothing tricksters.

/and by "those people", I mean Democrats, you vile racist

Corvus: Did Ron Paul vote for it?

I thought Ron Paul was against these types of special carve outs for people.

This bill hasn't gone back to the house yet for him to vote on. If I know Paul, he'll vote no "on principle".

Why does he worry about this as pandering to "special interests?" Doesn't seem to mind when he votes to give big bushiness breaks.

StanTheMan: at a time when Obama is claiming he actually wants to cut the military and related benefits!

Obama wants to cut military benefits?

It's funny though. Whenever someone suggests to cut the size of our military, and our military spending (which affects the likes of Lockheed Martin, GE, General Dynamics et al), asholes like you want to pretend they're somehow attacking veterans.

thelordofcheese: It's stupid that these veterans can't stand on the merit of their own achievements. This is nepotism and cronyism. What it will do is increase operation costs while decreasing productivity since lines of communication become more complicated. This will not only directly increase the costs of goods and services directly through the increased cost but also indirectly because of the decreased availability of the products or services due to the decrease in productivity. And it will deplete national funds via the tax credit.

Except that the puppy was a dog. But the industry, my friends, that was a revolution.