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(Chicago Sun-Times) Amusing "(The Immortals) wasn't historically accurate," grumbled a woman in the elevator after the sneak preview. "I guess that's what we deserve for using free tickets we got at a Blackhawks game"   (rogerebert.suntimes.com) divider line 78
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2011-11-11 09:30:43 AM
So, was this the first movie she ever went to?

And is any movie with Gods in it really historically accurate? Or is it just true to the source material?
 
2011-11-11 09:40:35 AM
Sorry Lady, if the movie's not ABOUT history, you're going to be disappointed with its historical accuracy. If it IS about history, you're going to be much more disappointed with its historical accuracy.
 
2011-11-11 10:19:38 AM
Isn't the main character of this movie Theseus?

You know, the fictional myth?
 
2011-11-11 10:44:56 AM
Looks good.
 
2011-11-11 11:19:32 AM
Lol. that's a great quote.
 
2011-11-11 11:22:59 AM
So the movie isnt accurate to the myth?
 
2011-11-11 11:24:54 AM
DamnYankees: Isn't the main character of this movie Theseus?

You know, the fictional myth?
 
2011-11-11 11:27:21 AM
I made the mistake of reading The Gates of Fire before seeing 300, and I had to keep mentally slapping myself from saying "THAT'S NOT HOW PHALANXES WORK, YOU MORONS"
 
2011-11-11 11:27:22 AM
groppet: So the movie isnt accurate to the myth?

Hey, that's how I felt when I saw "The Greatest Story Ever Told" last Easter.
 
2011-11-11 11:27:43 AM
Showing the lives of people in Mycenaean Greece as it really happened would make people ask why the hell they were watching a documentary about some third-world hellhole with no electricity or running water.
 
2011-11-11 11:27:50 AM
This is what you get when you hire Tarsem to direct your movie. You get a whole lot of gorgeous with whacked out plots head scratching nonsense.

With the exception of The Fall of course. I really liked that movie.
 
2011-11-11 11:38:14 AM
I wonder what she thought about:

2.bp.blogspot.com

and

creaturefxinc.com
 
2011-11-11 11:38:28 AM
sprawl15: I made the mistake of reading The Gates of Fire before seeing 300, and I had to keep mentally slapping myself from saying "THAT'S NOT HOW PHALANXES WORK, YOU MORONS"

That would be hilarious.

Beaver1224: Sorry Lady, if the movie's not ABOUT history, you're going to be disappointed with its historical accuracy. If it IS about history, you're going to be much more disappointed with its historical accuracy.

And this is incredibly quotable. :)
 
2011-11-11 11:56:52 AM
sprawl15: I made the mistake of reading The Gates of Fire before seeing 300, and I had to keep mentally slapping myself from saying "THAT'S NOT HOW PHALANXES WORK, YOU MORONS"

Ugghhh that book completely ruined the movie for me. The book gave them feelings, characterization, and weaknesses. It showed them suffering through injuries and death, not reveling in it. The movie made them super-macho jerks who cared for nothing but blood and gore.

Saying that, "Gates of Fire" is one of my favorite books.
 
2011-11-11 11:59:01 AM
Why didn't Ebert apply this level of get-the-f*ck-over-it to his critique of Die Hard?
 
2011-11-11 12:04:10 PM
Aidan: sprawl15: I made the mistake of reading The Gates of Fire before seeing 300, and I had to keep mentally slapping myself from saying "THAT'S NOT HOW PHALANXES WORK, YOU MORONS"

That would be hilarious.


The thing is, the movie specifically invited that kind of reaction. I mean, they even had a scene making a big deal about how the hunchback can't fight with them because they have to stand shoulder-to-shoulder and so forth, but then when they actually start fighting...
 
2011-11-11 12:07:11 PM
The Stealth Hippopotamus: And is any movie with Gods in it really historically accurate?

Other than Passion of the Christ?
 
2011-11-11 12:08:12 PM
scottydoesntknow: The movie made them super-macho jerks who cared for nothing but blood and gore.

The comic book had a little more depth, but it really reveled more in the jingoism aspect. It was after reading that I realized that I really don't like Frank Miller's work. Batman: Year One was decent enough, but I didn't care for TDKR. "Sin City" was very up-and-down.
 
2011-11-11 12:09:12 PM
If the cast looks like rejects from a CW series, you might be getting trolled you dumb twunt.
 
2011-11-11 12:10:22 PM
theorellior: Showing the lives of people in Mycenaean Greece as it really happened would make people ask why the hell they were watching a documentary about some third-world hellhole with no electricity or running water.

I get that feeling too during the opening credits of Beverly Hills Cop.
 
2011-11-11 12:11:05 PM
Mugato: Looks good.

Looks good... and terrible. -Coming to America, 1997
 
2011-11-11 12:11:41 PM
1987*
 
2011-11-11 12:11:48 PM
JLEM: Why didn't Ebert apply this level of get-the-f*ck-over-it to his critique of Die Hard?

I have to assume Siskel lent Ebert his brain tumor when Ebert was writing his review of Die Hard.

/and he liked Die Hard 2
 
2011-11-11 12:12:50 PM
coeyagi: 1987*

'88.
 
2011-11-11 12:13:42 PM
mitchcumstein1: The Stealth Hippopotamus: And is any movie with Gods in it really historically accurate?

Other than Passion of the Christ?


Yeah, what was with the midgets? Complete revisionist.
 
2011-11-11 12:13:50 PM
Skyrmion: Aidan: sprawl15: I made the mistake of reading The Gates of Fire before seeing 300, and I had to keep mentally slapping myself from saying "THAT'S NOT HOW PHALANXES WORK, YOU MORONS"

That would be hilarious.

The thing is, the movie specifically invited that kind of reaction. I mean, they even had a scene making a big deal about how the hunchback can't fight with them because they have to stand shoulder-to-shoulder and so forth, but then when they actually start fighting...


You should enjoy this then: How It Should Have Ended: 300 (pops)
 
2011-11-11 12:13:58 PM
Mugato: JLEM: Why didn't Ebert apply this level of get-the-f*ck-over-it to his critique of Die Hard?

I have to assume Siskel lent Ebert his brain tumor when Ebert was writing his review of Die Hard.

/and he liked Die Hard 2


Seriously, it's like watching jungle rape.
 
2011-11-11 12:14:28 PM
JLEM: coeyagi: 1987*

'88.


His Momma called him 87, I"m gonna call him 87.
 
2011-11-11 12:37:55 PM
sprawl15: I made the mistake of reading The Gates of Fire before seeing 300, and I had to keep mentally slapping myself from saying "THAT'S NOT HOW PHALANXES WORK, YOU MORONS"

Best theatrical display of phalanx strategies is in the early part and then the end of of "The Eagle." Great demonstration of Roman Testudo formations early on. At the end, you get a good demonstration of single line protected flank.

screencrave.frsucrave.netdna-cdn.com

Good movie, overall.
 
2011-11-11 12:42:29 PM
"blwaaaaahwawerrrrraaggh dfrrragggth. Thhhhssssrrrrup."
 
2011-11-11 12:51:41 PM
Actual history doesn't sell tickets - that sector of the public that actually watches this Hollywood crap needs flying, twirling martial arts masters, impossible, super-elaborate mechanical retro-weaponry, and cg-made ultra-bodies, all shot in glittery sepia tones with comically-bad storylines and hokey dialogue. IOW, teenage boys raised on video games.
 
2011-11-11 12:52:30 PM
mitchcumstein1: The Stealth Hippopotamus: And is any movie with Gods in it really historically accurate?

Other than Passion of the Christ?


hahahahahahahahahahaha
 
2011-11-11 12:53:09 PM
Aidan: Beaver1224: Sorry Lady, if the movie's not ABOUT history, you're going to be disappointed with its historical accuracy. If it IS about history, you're going to be much more disappointed with its historical accuracy.

And this is incredibly quotable. :)


Thank you. You may use it any time you feel the urge.
 
2011-11-11 12:56:53 PM
canyoneer: Actual history doesn't sell tickets - that sector of the public that actually watches this Hollywood crap needs flying, twirling martial arts masters, impossible, super-elaborate mechanical retro-weaponry, and cg-made ultra-bodies, all shot in glittery sepia tones with comically-bad storylines and hokey dialogue. IOW, teenage boys raised on video games.

Why does a fantasy movie have to be historically accurate just because it's set in a different time in history? The movie is called The Immortals. No one's going to be showing it in a history class.
 
2011-11-11 01:15:48 PM
DamnYankees: Isn't the main character of this movie Theseus?

You know, the fictional myth?


Poor guy. He's not even a real myth!
 
2011-11-11 01:20:41 PM
Mugato: Why does a fantasy movie have to be historically accurate just because it's set in a different time in history? The movie is called The Immortals. No one's going to be showing it in a history class.

As far as I can tell, they're all fantasy movies nowadays. The only "history" you get are these weepy, sensitive 19th Century costume dramas. From time-to-time there's a war movie (almost exclusively WWII) that's more-or-less history, but antiquity goes a-begging. It's just my opinion that, generally-speaking, imaging technology (films, TV) has been one of the biggest disappoinments of the modern age. What a waste of potentially powerful media.
 
2011-11-11 01:22:46 PM
scottydoesntknow: Ugghhh that book completely ruined the movie for me. The book gave them feelings, characterization, and weaknesses. It showed them suffering through injuries and death, not reveling in it. The movie made them super-macho jerks who cared for nothing but blood and gore.

You missed the point of the movie then, imho. What you see, with 300, is a myth being born. The entire thing is narrated by the one survivor and is being told to troops before a battle as a means to motivate them and pump them up. In that sense, everything was exaggerated. The hideousness of the enemies as well as the greatness of Leonidas. That's what makes the film brilliant imho and what causes too many people to exclaim "That's not accurate". It's not meant to be accurate, it's meant to be mythological and motivating.

Immortals, I'm not sure of, I doubt it'll have the same underlying point.
 
2011-11-11 01:30:51 PM
CanisNoir: scottydoesntknow: Ugghhh that book completely ruined the movie for me. The book gave them feelings, characterization, and weaknesses. It showed them suffering through injuries and death, not reveling in it. The movie made them super-macho jerks who cared for nothing but blood and gore.

You missed the point of the movie then, imho. What you see, with 300, is a myth being born. The entire thing is narrated by the one survivor and is being told to troops before a battle as a means to motivate them and pump them up. In that sense, everything was exaggerated. The hideousness of the enemies as well as the greatness of Leonidas. That's what makes the film brilliant imho and what causes too many people to exclaim "That's not accurate". It's not meant to be accurate, it's meant to be mythological and motivating.

Immortals, I'm not sure of, I doubt it'll have the same underlying point.


I thought the point of 300 was that great abs make great men.
 
2011-11-11 01:44:20 PM
I'm not surprised at all that this movie is terrible. Even from the previews, it doesn't make sense and looks like shiat.
 
2011-11-11 01:48:28 PM
"Titan of the sun? Hey, let's cast Mickey Rourke!" You can pretty much make your decision based on that alone.
 
2011-11-11 01:53:33 PM
mooseyfate:
I thought the point of 300 was that great abs make great men.


Oiled Abs, can't forget the glistening oil.
 
2011-11-11 01:54:20 PM
CanisNoir: scottydoesntknow: Ugghhh that book completely ruined the movie for me. The book gave them feelings, characterization, and weaknesses. It showed them suffering through injuries and death, not reveling in it. The movie made them super-macho jerks who cared for nothing but blood and gore.

You missed the point of the movie then, imho. What you see, with 300, is a myth being born. The entire thing is narrated by the one survivor and is being told to troops before a battle as a means to motivate them and pump them up. In that sense, everything was exaggerated. The hideousness of the enemies as well as the greatness of Leonidas. That's what makes the film brilliant imho and what causes too many people to exclaim "That's not accurate". It's not meant to be accurate, it's meant to be mythological and motivating.

Immortals, I'm not sure of, I doubt it'll have the same underlying point.


My thoughts exactly. 300 is a tall tale told well.
 
2011-11-11 01:54:47 PM
I tried to troll this movie on one of my friend's FB page, I didn't know he personally knew the writers of the movie. I got this in response:

i604.photobucket.com
 
2011-11-11 02:07:50 PM
I wonder if someday CG shiatpiles will become universally hated, leading to movies with interesting stories, engaging characters, and good acting.
 
2011-11-11 02:11:14 PM
drkats: I tried to troll this movie on one of my friend's FB page, I didn't know he personally knew the writers of the movie. I got this in response:

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profile.ak.fbcdn.netprofile.ak.fbcdn.netprofile.ak.fbcdn.net
 
2011-11-11 02:11:50 PM
ko_kyi: I wonder if someday CG shiatpiles will become universally hated, leading to movies with interesting stories, engaging characters, and good acting.

The 1970s?
 
2011-11-11 02:22:56 PM
Saw the movie last night.

My 2 Cents (or $15 marked up 3D film ticket):

On the whole, the acting is horrible. The plot is pointless and confusing. Dialogue is corny. The 'loves scene' was hillariously bad.

But holy crap was I entertained! Nut-Crushingly Entertained, I say!

The 3D is legitimate. Actually, its the second 3D movie I've seen that uses 3D effectively, first one being Avatar. No other 3D film is worth a 50% markup.

The action scenes were absolutely amazing. Everyone in the theater went "oooh!" and "aah!" during the more brutal moments. There's a TON of decapitations, epic CG moments, unmerciful violence.
And every now and then, you secretly wish an ominous voice would say "Fatality!".

This movie is all style and no substance. This is one of the rare cases where that's not a bad thing. The movie delivers.
 
2011-11-11 02:26:18 PM
in a landscape: Everyone in the theater went "oooh!" and "aah!"

Really? Were there a bunch of small school buses parked outside?
 
2011-11-11 02:29:10 PM
Of COURSE its not historically accurate. Everyone knows that aliens put the Gods there.
 
2011-11-11 02:36:38 PM
I don't mind Hollywood changing stories- I just mind them using the name of the old story, places from the old story, characters from the old story, plot lines from the old story, etc. etc.

There are some truly creative minds out there. Why bother using names from the Helenic Mythos? Yeah, some of the names are cool, but five minutes with a random name generator can get you a couple hundred cool names. I just don't see the need.

Keep the title. The Immortals sounds cool. Change the character names to things that sound barbarian (or Greek, if you really have to). The plot is something that never appeared in Greek mythology, so keep it as-is. What do you have? A pretty darn good movie that doesn't HAVE to be historically accurate.
 
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