Winston needs job security

Nazis? What Nazis?

SphericalTime: It's a stupid thing to request, in my opinion. You want to be able to remember the bad things that people do.

I'm sure Berlusconi wants everyone to forget all of those accusations against him. I'd rather not, thanks.

This, more or less. Forgiveness is one thing, forgetting is quite another.

Locking away news articles is asnine.

What I gleaned from TFA was the ability to force Facebook, Myspace, Google, Yahoo, etc to delete all traces of me from my personal accounts with them. None of this "we're going to make it inactive, but we'll have it forever anyway." If I want to delete my Facebook and remove all traces then I should be able to.

meat0918: The right to be forgotten has never been a right. You cannot control the truthful things written or said about you. Slander and libel are already covered.

that not how it works in yurop though

This is a good idea. People should not have to be held accountable for their actions. Or anything, really.

Would petitioning to have these stories removed be a public matter?

Because let's say you're actually able to get a story about you removed from the internet (good luck). People won't simply forget because it's no longer available. Instead they will have their distrust and hatred for you completely separated from whatever actually happened and their imaginations will be free to make the story many many times worse. And your supporters won't be able to set the record straight because you've hidden it.

This, if it isn't a complete flop (I'm betting on that), will be a boon to conspiracy theorists and bloggers who enjoy smearing public officials.

/your cunning plan, let's think it through. The imaginations of your enemies are always worse than the reality.

BizarreMan: Locking away news articles is asnine.

What I gleaned from TFA was the ability to force Facebook, Myspace, Google, Yahoo, etc to delete all traces of me from my personal accounts with them. None of this "we're going to make it inactive, but we'll have it forever anyway." If I want to delete my Facebook and remove all traces then I should be able to.

The problem is that is very hard to differentiate between: "Please delete my Fark account", "Please delete my account and any posts I every made on fark", "Please delete my account, all my posts and all posts by others answering or referring to it" and "Please delete all Fark headlines mentioning me by name". To you it might be clear cut. To a lawyer or a litigant idiot it is far less so.

The idea that someone might use this new rule to sue an online news archive to delete any mention of them for example having had a drunk driving accident a decade prior, is not to far fetched even if that is not what the rule is meant for. The other way round that some datamonger like facebook will claim that the personal data about you that they have accumulated somehow should be preserved because they are in the public interest will also surely be brought up before a judge by some lawyer.

Overall it is a bad idea. Just accept that once you allow some information about you on the net it will stay there indefinitely.

I also believe that the first time somebody tries to send in a request to erase some embarrassing incident from the news archives, this will certainly be news worthy and by connection so will the event they are trying to cover up and thus be exempt. So will the second person to try and the third. In fact no matter how many have tried before the first time somebody succeeds it will be big news....

watson.t.hamster: Would petitioning to have these stories removed be a public matter?

Because let's say you're actually able to get a story about you removed from the internet (good luck). People won't simply forget because it's no longer available. Instead they will have their distrust and hatred for you completely separated from whatever actually happened and their imaginations will be free to make the story many many times worse. And your supporters won't be able to set the record straight because you've hidden it.

This, if it isn't a complete flop (I'm betting on that), will be a boon to conspiracy theorists and bloggers who enjoy smearing public officials.

/your cunning plan, let's think it through. The imaginations of your enemies are always worse than the reality.

Ah, but then couldn't you petition to have your petition for removal removed?

Nearly unenforceable stupid idea. All you'd get out of it is a a few new government agencies employing the least common denominator to surf the Internet all day. Not to mention, since they have to know what they're looking for and they know you don't want it out there, you're setting up a pretty epic blackmail potential.

Oh, and what happens if someone just reposts it? Is it going to turn into a Youtubesque war over takedowns and reposts?

If you make something public, it's public. If you hand your information to someone, they have your information. Don't like it, don't do it in the first place.

Fano: Winston needs job security

Over in 2.

Behold, the Forgetaboutitinator!


I love saying that.
/Forget about it.
//Forget aBout it.
///Forgetaboutit!

They do realize that they're posing a significant engineering challenge, right? Like half of the damned internet operates on automatic archives and even individuals back random things up on a regular basis, it's one of the fundamental advantages of electronic storage.

Oh, wait, the people making this policy are so old and senile that they still think "computer" is a woman sitting behind a desk with an abacus and a ln chart? Right, that makes sense now.

//I guess in the context of personally-identifiable stuff it'd technically be "reposting" most of the time rather than "archiving", but from a wider view, same thing.

I just want facebook to stop labelling pictures of me with my name, to stop others being able to do so and to have the power of law behind me when I make the request. Also to check that this is being enforced WITHOUT having a facebook account.

This sounds like something Max Mosely would love.

SphericalTime: I'm sure Berlusconi wants everyone to forget all of those accusations against him. I'd rather not, thanks.

Don't worry, the EU calmly assures us that this will never be used to censor information about people of public interest, and obviously we can take it for granted that no public figure would ever abuse that loophole to suppress information about themselves.

This is good news... for Obama!

Step 1: Base server outside of EU
Step 2: Sell to EU denizens
Step 3: Profit

You know, back in the day if you screwed up you could just move to another town and start over with a clean record. Now you have a record and it follows you anywhere you go. A person is defined in the modern age by the absolute worst thing ever alleged against that person. It does not make for a functional society.

If you don't like what is said about the crappy things you do...don't do them.

History is writtenerased by the winners.