But I am certian I read on Fark that Google TV was going to smash Apple TV to pieces and be in every home.

Wasn't this tried already (a couple of times)? I guess I missed this massive launch, wtf is Google TV?

Both Google TV and Apple TV suck.

Google sucks because they aren't able to deliver all of the network content that they thought they would. Apple sucks because it is just another front for iTunes to sell content at ludicrously high levels.

HTPC+HDHomerun+Netflix/Amazon Prime/Hulu = WINNING

De Luca suggested that Google TV was far from ready at launch, going so far as to call it "beta" software on one presentation slide

Sounds like damn near everything that Google pushes. How long was Gmail in 'beta'?

No repost of the three girls with the GOOgle logo on their t-shirts?

madgonad: Hulu

The commercials on Hulu are getting out of hand. I'm getting six of them in a 22 minute program.

That keyboard looks awesome.

/didn't read anything anywhere

HTPC + Plasma TV + internet + RSS reader + Media Center software = 1 day behind, at most, on all the shows I watch. I use a remote control, it's got a better interface than netflix. And I can self-stream to myself from anywhere in the world. And I can watch *ANYTHING*. Basically, this is what google tv / apple tv should be, and will never achieve.

If this were available as a commercial service I'd pay $50/month for it, forever. Too bad it's not, and likely will never be.

I actually rather like the thing. It needs some more work, but it's pretty good. Not ready for the general public, though.

It's really limited if you don't have cable TV. I bought it because it was $99, had a wireless keyboard with TV control functions, a web browser (which sucks; I really hope it's better in 3.1), and Netflix streaming in HD.

They released the thing for $299, and for that price you could pick up a budget-model PC with a full OS to hook up as your HTPC.

t3knomanser: madgonad: Hulu

The commercials on Hulu are getting out of hand. I'm getting six of them in a 22 minute program.

THIS. Farking annoying.

I'll probably pick one up now that it's getting market access. But yeah, 300 dollars for a beta product = no.

I'm just hoping someone (google or third party) adds DVR to the platform.

JohDHJ: I just RTFA.

The CEO admitted that it was a mistake, recognized where and how the mistake was made, and is willing to walk away from this rather than sink more money in an attempt to soothe his pride and "force" something to work.

I like this guy. And I like that he's leading Logitech.

If only he'd do something about what they've done to their trackballs... The current generation of of them is just too damn small.

You want to make a killing at that price?

Open the @#(* box up. ALL OF IT. Let us run XBMC on it. There are a ton of people buying ATV2s just for that purpose, even though you still have to run iOS and such.

Also, don't make it $299.

Lexx: If this were available as a commercial service I'd pay $50/month for it, forever. Too bad it's not, and likely will never be.

Yep, with what sickbeard, couchpotato, sabnzbd and XBMC give me. Yeah, I'd go legit and start paying $50 a month. I'd even let an ad or two here slip (Targeted ads even!, Show me the latest fancy gadgets and not tampons). You sort out what TV shows I'm watching (It's not that many, they're just spread across 10 different channels) and pay the content providers accordingly.

Lexx: HTPC + Plasma TV + internet + RSS reader + Media Center software = 1 day behind, at most, on all the shows I watch. I use a remote control, it's got a better interface than netflix. And I can self-stream to myself from anywhere in the world. And I can watch *ANYTHING*. Basically, this is what google tv / apple tv should be, and will never achieve.

Live sports? Or will you have to watch Janet's nasty nipple a day later?

I'm posting this from my WebTV, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

madgonad: Apple sucks because it is just another front for iTunes to sell content at ludicrously high levels.

You blind hatred for one company appears to have impeded your ability to discern actual facts.

If you rip DVDs into the right format and load them into iTunes, they will play just fine on an AppleTV. Or Torrent. Plus Netflix. Whether or not it is better than the cheaper Roku solution, I'll leave to others to say.

AIOS HD is my favorite media streaming device right now. Handles any format you can throw at it has slots for 2 HDs and costs $99.

Satanic_Hamster: If only he'd do something about what they've done to their trackballs... The current generation of of them is just too damn small.

I just want a damn wireless 3D controller out of their 3Dconnexion products

t3knomanser: madgonad: Hulu

The commercials on Hulu are getting out of hand. I'm getting six of them in a 22 minute program.

Which is the normal setup for any evening programming of moderately-popular shows on TV as well. Does it really surprise you that the profit sustainability spot would be about the same for broadcast/cable TV and online streaming TV?

//Since they don't follow the standard expanding-break-time-with-length, you're talking significantly fewer commercials fora one-hour program (well, 42-44 mins, really) and a basically negligible amount for a movie. Stop yer complaining.

Plex is the win.. runs on pc / mac - shares the library via the mycloud to ios/android and other pc/mac installs.. plays pretty much anything.... can run plex apps on roku, samsung tvs and blue ray players etc.

animal900: Lexx: HTPC + Plasma TV + internet + RSS reader + Media Center software = 1 day behind, at most, on all the shows I watch. I use a remote control, it's got a better interface than netflix. And I can self-stream to myself from anywhere in the world. And I can watch *ANYTHING*. Basically, this is what google tv / apple tv should be, and will never achieve.

Live sports? Or will you have to watch Janet's nasty nipple a day later?

There are ways.

Lord Dimwit: Logitech has won my heart with their Harmony remotes. They can do no wrong, as far as I'm concerned. If I found out that every time I turned on my TV with a Harmony remote, they had to drown a puppy, I would assume that they, in their wisdom, had a good reason for doing so.

That is all.

Harmony won my heart with the Harmony remotes. I'm only a Logitech customer because they purchased Harmony.

Lord Dimwit: Logitech has won my heart with their Harmony remotes. They can do no wrong, as far as I'm concerned. If I found out that every time I turned on my TV with a Harmony remote, they had to drown a puppy, I would assume that they, in their wisdom, had a good reason for doing so.

That is all.

This, although I wish the software had an advanced mode

HeartBurnKid: animal900: Lexx: HTPC + Plasma TV + internet + RSS reader + Media Center software = 1 day behind, at most, on all the shows I watch. I use a remote control, it's got a better interface than netflix. And I can self-stream to myself from anywhere in the world. And I can watch *ANYTHING*. Basically, this is what google tv / apple tv should be, and will never achieve.

Live sports? Or will you have to watch Janet's nasty nipple a day later?

There are ways.

Like what?

1) ________
2) ________
3) ________

animal900: HeartBurnKid: animal900: Lexx: HTPC + Plasma TV + internet + RSS reader + Media Center software = 1 day behind, at most, on all the shows I watch. I use a remote control, it's got a better interface than netflix. And I can self-stream to myself from anywhere in the world. And I can watch *ANYTHING*. Basically, this is what google tv / apple tv should be, and will never achieve.

Live sports? Or will you have to watch Janet's nasty nipple a day later?

There are ways.

Like what?

1) ________
2) ________
3) ________

There are websites that stream live sports. I don't really want to name any names since DHS has been trying to crack down on them, but they are out there and relatively easy to find.

animal900: Lexx: HTPC + Plasma TV + internet + RSS reader + Media Center software = 1 day behind, at most, on all the shows I watch. I use a remote control, it's got a better interface than netflix. And I can self-stream to myself from anywhere in the world. And I can watch *ANYTHING*. Basically, this is what google tv / apple tv should be, and will never achieve.

Live sports? Or will you have to watch Janet's nasty nipple a day later?

Who the hell wants to watch live sports in their own home? Sporting events are only bearable if you partake of them in a crowded sports bar where you can feed off the excitement of the crowd (and beer!).

dchurch0: t3knomanser: madgonad: Hulu

The commercials on Hulu are getting out of hand. I'm getting six of them in a 22 minute program.

THIS. Farking annoying.

Not only THIS, but they also they buffer like shiat. 9 out of 10 time a video crashes, it's because of the stupid commercials.

Ed Willy: dchurch0: t3knomanser: madgonad: Hulu

The commercials on Hulu are getting out of hand. I'm getting six of them in a 22 minute program.

THIS. Farking annoying.

Not only THIS, but they also they buffer like shiat. 9 out of 10 time a video crashes, it's because of the stupid commercials.

I've had at most 3 or 4 videos crash ever. I have no idea what you're doing wrong.

Shameless self promotion, but those of you that have a Roku, when you purchase or watch channels produced by Flickstream.com, you are allowing me and my children to eat.

animal900: 1) Over the air broadcasts with tuner.
2) Cable
3) Streaming websites.

Happy Hours: Dear Logitech,

I've been using your trackballs for about 20 years or so. I don't know why but no other company can make trackballs worth a shiat and you cannot do anything good except make trackballs. Your other peripherals suck - give us a break.

tracball-using satisfied customer

Their keyboards and mics are good, decent speakers a few years back. Their trackballs have gone down hill a bit.

dbirchall: madgonad: Apple sucks because it is just another front for iTunes to sell content at ludicrously high levels.

Uh... if you say so. We'll just keep on streaming Netflix to ours. And watching HD video podcasts of TED talks (which iTunes "sells" us for free). And using our iPhones as remotes that can control not only the AppleTV itself, but also control streaming of stuff to it from computers on our WLAN.

Yes, that last bit is major single-vendor lock-in, which is probably a much more persuasive argument if you're trying to convince people that Apple sucks.

Of course nobody addressed the iTunes price points.

Also, sorry iSheep, I know you think that you were first to the party with this, but users that actually know how computers and electronics work have done all of that for years. For not very much money. I also have the added bonus of not having everything I ever watch or do recorded onto Apple's servers. Sleep tight Apple fans. I am sure Apple would never divulge all of your DMCA violations....

Lexx: HTPC + Plasma TV + internet + RSS reader + Media Center software = 1 day behind, at most, on all the shows I watch. I use a remote control, it's got a better interface than netflix. And I can self-stream to myself from anywhere in the world. And I can watch *ANYTHING*. Basically, this is what google tv / apple tv should be, and will never achieve.

If this were available as a commercial service I'd pay $50/month for it, forever. Too bad it's not, and likely will never be.

Day behind? Man yo got some slow connections. I can get HDTV rips of shows 20mins after it airs.

Lexx: HTPC + Plasma TV + internet + RSS reader + Media Center software = 1 day behind, at most, on all the shows I watch. I use a remote control, it's got a better interface than netflix. And I can self-stream to myself from anywhere in the world. And I can watch *ANYTHING*. Basically, this is what google tv / apple tv should be, and will never achieve.

Live sports? Or will you have to watch Janet's nasty nipple a day later?

Boxee box + firstrowsports.eu = all the live hockey or football one can want for free.

Recently wall mounted a 32" LCD above my 52" big screen so I can watch 2 games at once. Planning to make it 2 32" screens above the big screen for ultimate football viewing.

madgonad: Of course nobody addressed the iTunes price points.

Forget the price points; the program itself is a damn virus. It's worse then realplayer.

TheGhostofFarkPast: Day behind? Man yo got some slow connections. I can get HDTV rips of shows 20mins after it airs.

20 minutes? You should upgrade your connection. 2.6 MB/s on Comcast... is 3.5x what my college had for its entire connection in 2001. 30 Minute TV shows take a bathroom break to get. And like I said in another thread, if you charged for this, even tossed in targeted commercials (NO TAMPON COMMERCIALS) I would pay for this service. Nope, they'd rather do it the way they do it.

Especially if it's something that appears in Nova Scotia or gets sent over feed satelites. For some reason NCIS was coming in a day early for the first few episodes.

darkscout: TheGhostofFarkPast: Day behind? Man yo got some slow connections. I can get HDTV rips of shows 20mins after it airs.

20 minutes? You should upgrade your connection. 2.6 MB/s on Comcast... is 3.5x what my college had for its entire connection in 2001. 30 Minute TV shows take a bathroom break to get. And like I said in another thread, if you charged for this, even tossed in targeted commercials (NO TAMPON COMMERCIALS) I would pay for this service. Nope, they'd rather do it the way they do it.

Especially if it's something that appears in Nova Scotia or gets sent over feed satelites. For some reason NCIS was coming in a day early for the first few episodes.
I'm not talking about data speeds you mofo. I'm talking about the whole shows posts online in private trackers 20 minutes after it airs on TV. So I will have the show 20 minutes after it airs which means cable is not needed. and Yes I get 50mb down on FIOS so speed is of little concern to me.

Wow, it was a joke. Lighten up, welcome to fark.