Well, okay, let's not criticize them for making that realization late, but rather applaud them for making that realization at all.

too late

Well, not all of Texas. It's a big state, the biggest in the Union.

We don't mention Alaska around the Texans

We don't, we just see a largely undereducated population who bring religion into politics, don't care about global warming and believe their leaders are operating with integrity.

Rain-Monkey: We don't, we just see a largely undereducated population who bring religion into politics, don't care about global warming and believe their leaders are operating with integrity.

And that the entire constitution needs to be re-written. Except for the second amendment, that's untouchable.

Well they should stop acting like country bumpkins.

All the "sons" of Confederate veterans are dead. And their sons are probably all dead also.

13th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution - not ratified by Texas until February 18, 1870.

2wolves: All the "sons" of Confederate veterans are dead. And their sons are probably all dead also.

13th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution - not ratified by Texas until February 18, 1870.

Hey, at least they weren't as bad as Tennessee, who didn't ratify the 15th Amendment guaranteeing the right to vote regardless of gender or race until April 2, 1997.

RexTalionis: 2wolves: All the "sons" of Confederate veterans are dead. And their sons are probably all dead also.

13th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution - not ratified by Texas until February 18, 1870.

Hey, at least they weren't as bad as Tennessee, who didn't ratify the 15th Amendment guaranteeing the right to vote regardless of gender or race until April 2, 1997.

Er, not gender. Just race.

Admitting you have a problem is the first step.

Please....
Show me a state that does not have its own crop of country bumpkins.

It's just part of the flavor.

Slives: Please....
Show me a state that does not have its own crop of country bumpkins.

It's just part of the flavor.

Hawaii?

Slives: Please....
Show me a state that does not have its own crop of country bumpkins.

It's just part of the flavor.

Michigan has a special area known colloquially as "Taylor-tucky." Would you believe that's where Kid Rock is from? No kiddin'.

Well too bad. That particular palomino left that particular barn some time back, Texas.

Well bless your heart.
But you can't fix stupid.

"What we are doing is dummying down history by saying if it's southern, it's bad," Patterson said. "It is not as simple as we try to make it."

Baffling statement in two respects.

1) He is simplifying by saying rejection of the confederate flag is a rejection of all things southern.

2) If it's not a simple matter, which I agree it's not, then maybe the best way to explore it in all its complexity should be somewhere other than goddamned license plates and bumper stickers.

Slives: Please....
Show me a state that does not have its own crop of country bumpkins.

It's just part of the flavor.

How many states have had a governor that talked about seceding from the Union in the past...hundred years?

Hey, given the fact that there are nine states where they do have Sons of Confederate Veterans tags? I'm counting this one for the win column. Baby steps still count as long as they're heading in the right direction.

Sleeping Monkey: too late

My first thought.

spudvol: They could raise the same amount of money by making just one of those plates with the word "BUBBA" on it and auctioning it off.

Or "JUNIOR."

Sleeping Monkey: too late

2wolves: All the "sons" of Confederate veterans are dead. And their sons are probably all dead also.

13th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution - not ratified by Texas until February 18, 1870.

Nope! I met a man just a few months ago whose father was a confederate. He's like 90 something and his father was really old when he was born, but it works. Nice guy too. You might be able to google him, it was a big deal when he visited some of the Civil War nps sites.

Attention Texans: we are Southwesterners, not Southerners, no matter what East Texans say. The South does not want us, and for all but 20 years leading up to the Civil War, we were not even Americans. Our first President was ousted because he wouldn't join the South's treason.

The only thing Texan SCVs celebrate is their ancestor's racism.

"We don't want others to look at Texas with scorn and ridicule and think that we are a bunch of country bumpkins". Sorry, I started doing that when you actively wanted to rewrite science textbooks to include religion as an 'alternative concept'.