darkhorse23: Chariset: Yeah, like "The bigger guys with the money always win" and "Accept that your karmic lot is the lowest class and get back to your part-time job at Starbucks"

Or, perhaps, 'take back what is yours'.

Only if that includes a bullet in the face. Good luck with a bunch of feel good bullshiat memes, when it comes right down to it, I will bet on the people fighting to protect what is theirs vs those trying to take it from them. Every time.

sinschild: I will bet on the people fighting to protect what is theirs vs those trying to take it from them.

So you're with OWS?

GAT_00: sinschild: I will bet on the people fighting to protect what is theirs vs those trying to take it from them.

Well you go ahead and grab a gun to protect the people who have done their best to destroy this country. I'll be over here holding the 1% accountable and acting in my own interest.

Make no mistake GAT, the only people I would defend are my family. I do not side with the 1% or the 99% on this issue, they both have a lot of cleaning in their own house to do before they even think about looking at someone else for problems to solve.

Oh wow, shocking forbes is disparaging the OWS protesters, that automatically means that the bank bailouts were not a sweetheart deal to insiders and the wealthy are taxed enough already.

Some asswipe burning strawmen about OWS. This is new and refreshing.

Mike_LowELL: Remember kids:

Occupy Wall Street protests inequality: "What a bunch of idiots! These people need to get their act together and stop wasting our time!"
Penn State college students protest the deposition of their head coach who let his assistant fark children: ...

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...

...

Anything?

Anything?

Yup. Them media brainwashing with your heads, brah.

That 10 year old shouldn't have been dressed that way

The biggest economic and political lesson learned by OWS protestors? Democracy works.

sinschild: darkhorse23: Chariset: Yeah, like "The bigger guys with the money always win" and "Accept that your karmic lot is the lowest class and get back to your part-time job at Starbucks"

Or, perhaps, 'take back what is yours'.

Only if that includes a bullet in the face. Good luck with a bunch of feel good bullshiat memes, when it comes right down to it, I will bet on the people fighting to protect what is theirs vs those trying to take it from them. Every time.

You mean like people that fight to keep their pensions? They always find out the game is rigged and their money is taken with the stroke of a pen.

I think the fundamental lesson here we are no longer a nation that values education or character and instead now use bank balances as the sole criteria for judging a person.

I think the author is confusing 'proper upkeep of a group of people to promote order' with 'relentless acquisition of wealth at the expense of any moral or ethical boundary'.

FTFA: "Private profit-seeking businesses provide a social good". DUH! Doesn't the "lamestream media" get that OWS is shouting that loud and clear? That the main point of OWS is protesting businesses that have grown so big that they are not selling things, but rather doing things like buying mortgages and selling them as deritative securities?

OWS is not for Goddamned overturning capitalism. It IS in favor of re-establishing Glass-Steagall.

Mike_LowELL: Remember kids:

Occupy Wall Street protests inequality: "What a bunch of idiots! These people need to get their act together and stop wasting our time!"
Penn State college students protest the deposition of their head coach who let his assistant fark children: ...

...

...

...

Anything?

Anything?

Yup. Them media brainwashing with your heads, brah.


Awesome.
This is now my facebook status.

I was going to make some semi-witty comment about how surprised I was that Forbes was beating up on OWS strawmen, but I was distracted by how punchable that guy's face is.



Dang. You can't tell me you don't think he'd look better with a black eye or two.

OWS is not for Goddamned overturning capitalism.

That's getting harder to believe by the day.

Let me summarize the article:

Childish insult, strawman, strawman, insult, strawman, strawman, insult, strawman.

Let me know if I missed anything.

Welfare breeds freeloading

The difference between R's and D's, as summarized by a previous farker that I forget who was.

Republicans are kept up at night worrying that somewhere someone is getting something they don't deserve.

Democrats are kept up at night worrying that somewhere someone is not getting the help they need or deserve.

Seems a pretty fair assessment to me. I get it, the R's would rather err on the side of not helping anyone. The D's would rather err on the side of helping everyone, including freeloaders. But this disingenuous shiat has to stop. D's support welfare despite freeloaders. They aren't pro-freeloader. And R's are against welfare despite people who deserve it. They aren't for farking over people down on their luck. It's just a choice which side you'd rather err on.

Same logic could apply to the justice system. Would you rather err on the side of locking innocents away and missing a few guilty people, or vice versa. Everyone is willing to spout off "better to let 10 guilty men go free yadda yadda" but in actual practice, show up to a Casey Anthony thread and see which side a lot of people would rather err on.

orsonwagon: OWS is not for Goddamned overturning capitalism.

That's getting harder to believe by the day.

Really? Why?

Lionel Mandrake: Private, profit-seeking businesses governments provide a social good.

And they never do anything bad!!1!

Works both ways.

Nothing will change until the right people start dying.

Isn't it awful that the OW movement is spurring donations of food and clothing that are going to the homeless who aren't protesters and are just receiving "welfare" without benefitting the movement? You can bet Jesus is weeping over that.

/sarcasm off
/tears of joy

sinschild: I will bet on the people fighting to protect what is theirs vs those trying to take it from them. Every time.

Righto, chief.
The citizenry have never, in the history of humanity, succeeded in the face of their wealthy "owners".

Why, one of the oldest nations around proved that when the proles get uppity and start trashing your stuff, you can quite easily just shut them down.
//I'm not saying this is a revolution in the slightest, but that your belief in the Gospel of the Owner is severely unfounded.

orsonwagon: OWS is not for Goddamned overturning capitalism.

That's getting harder to believe by the day.

Only if you're an idiot.
The point is quite obviously to *FIX* capitalism by surgically correcting severe imbalances and an almost-vertical playing field, where Capitalism itself in the US has been corrupted and spun out of control.

Though I guess it may be a reasonable thing to believe if you only pay attention to the maroons that shout the loudest.

The occupiers, who operate on a foolhardy belief that they are a self-policing as well as self-governing organization, have reacted to crimes by forming "shame circles" in which, as if reenacting a scene from a Nathaniel Hawthorne novel, they surround malefactors and cry, "Shame, shame, shame!"

lol, seriously?

HotWingConspiracy:

You mean like people that fight to keep their pensions? They always find out the game is rigged and their money is taken with the stroke of a pen.

Which is why retirement should be based on something you own not a promise to be paid like a pension.

lennavan: Welfare breeds freeloading

The difference between R's and D's, as summarized by a previous farker that I forget who was.

Republicans are kept up at night worrying that somewhere someone is getting something they don't deserve.

Democrats are kept up at night worrying that somewhere someone is not getting the help they need or deserve.

Seems a pretty fair assessment to me. I get it, the R's would rather err on the side of not helping anyone. The D's would rather err on the side of helping everyone, including freeloaders. But this disingenuous shiat has to stop. D's support welfare despite freeloaders. They aren't pro-freeloader. And R's are against welfare despite people who deserve it. They aren't for farking over people down on their luck. It's just a choice which side you'd rather err on.

Same logic could apply to the justice system. Would you rather err on the side of locking innocents away and missing a few guilty people, or vice versa. Everyone is willing to spout off "better to let 10 guilty men go free yadda yadda" but in actual practice, show up to a Casey Anthony thread and see which side a lot of people would rather err on.

Or social insurance provided by the government. How many people say socialism and big government are bad? How many of them march in the streets as soon as somebody starts proposing minor changes to Social Security or Medicare?

sinschild: darkhorse23: Chariset: Yeah, like "The bigger guys with the money always win" and "Accept that your karmic lot is the lowest class and get back to your part-time job at Starbucks"

Or, perhaps, 'take back what is yours'.

Only if that includes a bullet in the face. Good luck with a bunch of feel good bullshiat memes, when it comes right down to it, I will bet on the people fighting to protect what is theirs vs those trying to take it from them. Every time.

Refutation: You are not out there with OWS, fighting to protect what is yours from the corporate interests that have been siphoning it off for years.

Private, profit-seeking businesses provide a social good.

As long as its profitable. The moment the bottom line dips a few percentage points, its, "fark America, we're moving to China."

pdee: HotWingConspiracy:

You mean like people that fight to keep their pensions? They always find out the game is rigged and their money is taken with the stroke of a pen.

Which is why retirement should be based on something you own not a promise to be paid like a pension.

It worked just fine for years and years.

He's a ginger and is bitter that he has no soul. Doesn't understand democracy or capitalism for that matter believing that a plutocracy should continue.

CPennypacker: orsonwagon: OWS is not for Goddamned overturning capitalism.

That's getting harder to believe by the day.

Really? Why?

Where are the free-market OWSers? I see/hear a lot of collectivist rhetoric, signs, literature etc. but I don't see much classical liberalism on display.

error 303: I think the fundamental lesson here we are no longer a nation that values education or character and instead now use bank balances as the sole criteria for judging a person.

That and sports. Always the sports. Your coaching record is worth a lot more than some dumb kid that would never amount to anything anyway? Amirite?

Forbes writer needs to learn a lesson about cleptocracy and oligarchy being bad for the economy, what a douchebag.

CPennypacker: orsonwagon: OWS is not for Goddamned overturning capitalism.

That's getting harder to believe by the day.

Really? Why?

Because, you know, all hippie potsmoking protesters are socialist communist pinko kenyan sekritmuslins who want to destroy capitalism.

Serious Black: Or social insurance provided by the government. How many people say socialism and big government are bad? How many of them march in the streets as soon as somebody starts proposing minor changes to Social Security or Medicare?

The people who benefit from them of course. Socialism is good when it benefits me, bad when it benefits anyone other than me. Also summarized as FARK YOU, I got mine.

HotWingConspiracy: pdee: HotWingConspiracy:

You mean like people that fight to keep their pensions? They always find out the game is rigged and their money is taken with the stroke of a pen.

Which is why retirement should be based on something you own not a promise to be paid like a pension.

It worked just fine for years and years.

He thinks a pension is a benevolent gift and not deferred compensation.

lennavan: Welfare breeds freeloading

Republicans are kept up at night worrying that somewhere someone is getting something they don't deserve.


Its the OWS protesters that are pissed off that the 1% have more money then the deserve.

So you think that the OWSers are Republicans?

James F. Campbell: Nothing will change until the right people start dying.

yea, the old dust bags need to go die already, so we can have some more jobs

Gunther: I was going to make some semi-witty comment about how surprised I was that Forbes was beating up on OWS strawmen, but I was distracted by how punchable that guy's face is.

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Dang. You can't tell me you don't think he'd look better with a black eye or two.

Personally, I'd rather use the steel toed boots I was required to buy for a month-long $12 temp job last year.

Headso: Forbes writer needs to learn a lesson about cleptocracy and oligarchy being bad for the economy, what a douchebag.

The whole point of Forbes magazine is to justify rule by a plutocracy.

LouDobbsAwaaaay: 1) Many of the 99% would rather defend the delusion that they will someday be in the 1% than face reality.

2) Pro-corporate message == Fox News Special, Anti-corporate message == fractured skull via shotgun blast to face.

3) OWS message == violent reactions to others political beliefs == numerous assaualts and two women being forcibly thrown to the ground.

OWS has been shocked to discover these folk aren't "contributing" anything (nothing important, anyway, like slogans or resolutions), and derided them as "professional homeless people" (to distinguish them from the amateur kind). Food preparers instigated what one protester called "blacklisting" of such individuals to keep them from sharing the bounty the "productive" members of the movement have secured.

How very Randian of them