GaryPDX: The second loan was not approved. Instead, an investment venture controlled by Kaiser made a private loan that resulted in the firm and other investors moving ahead of taxpayers in line for repayment in case of a default by Solyndra.

I'm pretty sure that's illegal.

The only way to make sure this stuff doesn't happen is to make sure more money is allowed in politics or something...

"It is clear from these documents that Kaiser and his employees enjoyed ready access to the West Wing of the White House and exercised influence throughout the loan process," Stearns said

The second loan was not approved.

Yea, such strong influence.

what_now: Solyndra HAS TO BE as bad as Enron. There's no POSSIBLY way it can simply be a failed investment and bad judgment.

There MUST be criminal malfeasance.

The emails also show Kaiser chiding subordinates who urged him to personally lobby White House officials on behalf of Solyndra. Kaiser's foundation had invested $400 million in the solar company.

"I question the assumption that WH is the path to pursue when both of your issues here are with DOE," Kaiser wrote in an email to Mitchell, referring to the White House and the Energy Department. If the White House intervened, Kaiser added, "I am concerned that DOE/Chu would resent the intervention and your problem would get more difficult."

The monster.

The headline's claim appears nowhere in the article, so I'm assuming a 50/50 shot that GaryPDX also submitted it.

Keep farking that chicken, Republicans.

1700s...

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship."

Present time...

"WE CAN'T WAIT ON CONGRESS!"

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/11/09/we-cant-wait-pr e sident-obama-sign-executive-order-cut-waste-and-promote-

"We wish that House Republicans were as zealous about creating jobs as they were about this oversight investigation."

Bazinga!

So Kaiser rolled the dice and lost and now can't raise the dough? He's a billionaire and should pay back the bread himself, it's the yeast he could do.

tgregory: Deflection

Unrelated post. Please stay focused on the topic of the article. Do you have something to contribute?

what_now: Solyndra HAS TO BE as bad as Enron. There's no POSSIBLY way it can simply be a failed investment and bad judgment.

There MUST be criminal malfeasance.

I hear Kenneth Star is being called up from the bullpen.

Am I the only one reading the headline in Dan Backslide's voice?

"NO ONE WILL EVER KNOW!"

Damn liberal main-stream media.

*reads headline*
*reads article*
*reads headline again... and again*

I have a feeling that the mods must have put this headline on a different source submission. Not really the best article for Subby to use.

IXI Jim IXI: tgregory:
You forgot:

1700s: hey, let's build a government country



You missed the important part.
No one set out to build a "government". They wanted to build a country in which the government was not trampling over the rights of the people.

back to history class for you.

Acorn had unprortected premarital sex with Solyndra and 9 months later she birthed 57 welfare states.

IXI Jim IXI: GaryPDX: The second loan was not approved. Instead, an investment venture controlled by Kaiser made a private loan that resulted in the firm and other investors moving ahead of taxpayers in line for repayment in case of a default by Solyndra.

I'm pretty sure that's illegal.

While I'm not sure of the status of the first loan

The first loan was put in a subordinate position which is the illegal part.

what_now: Solyndra HAS TO BE as bad as Enron. There's no POSSIBLY way it can simply be a failed investment and bad judgment. There MUST be criminal malfeasance.

So the Obama Administration should have no qualms about supplying the information requested by Congress. There is nothing to hide.

Farxist: IXI Jim IXI: tgregory:
You forgot:

1700s: hey, let's build a government country



You missed the important part.
No one set out to build a "government". They wanted to build a country in which the government was not trampling over the rights of the people.

back to history class for you.

How do you build a country? Isn't a country just what exists within geopolitical borders? How do you build that? Unless you mean build a society, which is different.

Also, you cannot have a country without a government, so yes, the Founding Fathers did set out to build a government.

Farxist: No one set out to build a "government". They wanted to build a country in which the government was not trampling over the rights of the people.

back to history class for you.

So what, pray tell, are articles 1-3 in the Constitution all about?

soy_bomb: So the Obama Administration should have no qualms about supplying the information requested by Congress. There is nothing to hide.

Nope, just time and resources to waste and Fox News propaganda to generate.

soy_bomb: what_now: Solyndra HAS TO BE as bad as Enron. There's no POSSIBLY way it can simply be a failed investment and bad judgment. There MUST be criminal malfeasance.

So the Obama Administration should have no qualms about supplying the information requested by Congress. There is nothing to hide.

"We wish that House Republicans were as zealous about creating jobs as they were about this oversight investigation."

Farxist: IXI Jim IXI: GaryPDX: The second loan was not approved. Instead, an investment venture controlled by Kaiser made a private loan that resulted in the firm and other investors moving ahead of taxpayers in line for repayment in case of a default by Solyndra.

I'm pretty sure that's illegal.

While I'm not sure of the status of the first loan

The first loan was put in a subordinate position which is the illegal part.

In what respect, Charlie?

soy_bomb: So the Obama Administration should have no qualms about supplying the information requested by Congress. There is nothing to hide.

Sure. And when they provide such information, you'll biatch at them for having wasted the resources and declare them incompetent for it.

Farxist: IXI Jim IXI: tgregory:
You forgot:

1700s: hey, let's build a government country



You missed the important part.
No one set out to build a "government". They wanted to build a country in which the government was not trampling over the rights of the people.

back to history class for you.

"That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed." Someone famous from around that time probably said this....

Oh but you know Obama is sooooo different and transparent. He doesn't play any politician games because he's like Lincoln-JFK-Spock-grand-master-chess-player. Ooo, he's not corrupt like that chimp, Bush. He's so cool.

Hi, I'm a Libtard and I approve this message.

Car_Ramrod: "We wish that House Republicans were as zealous about creating jobs as they were about this oversight investigation."


If the Democrats had actually lowered unemployment when they controlled the House, the Senate and then the White House, this statement would never need to be made.

/blazing hot

There are literally 3 articles about Solyndra a day on FOX. They are determined to find a real scandal here (or make their followers think there is one)

tomcatadam: Sure. And when they provide such information, you'll biatch at them for having wasted the resources and declare them incompetent for it.

Release the information and lets see if that is the reaction. If there is nothing to hide, imagine the fun you can have rubbing it into the Republicans' face.

soy_bomb: Car_Ramrod: "We wish that House Republicans were as zealous about creating jobs as they were about this oversight investigation."

[www.theblaze.com image 620x458]
If the Democrats had actually lowered unemployment when they controlled the House, the Senate and then the White House, this statement would never need to be made.

/blazing hot

Graph fight!



Also, going from 10.1% to 9.1% IS lowering unemployment. Just an FYI.

soy_bomb: Release the information and lets see if that is the reaction. If there is nothing to hide, imagine the fun you can have rubbing it into the Republicans' face.

I sure wish Glenn Beck would release the information about that girl in 1991. I mean, what does he have to hide?

soy_bomb: Car_Ramrod: "We wish that House Republicans were as zealous about creating jobs as they were about this oversight investigation."

[www.theblaze.com image 620x458]
If the Democrats had actually lowered unemployment when they controlled the House, the Senate and then the White House, this statement would never need to be made.

/blazing hot

In related news, 9 is greater than 10.

CPennypacker: There are literally 3 articles about Solyndra a day on FOX. They are determined to find a real scandal here (or make their followers think there is one)

That's less than the number of threads per day on Fark about Herman Cain and what he is accused didn't cost the US taxpayers a half-billion dollars and 1,100 workers their jobs.

what_now: Solyndra HAS TO BE as bad as Enron. There's no POSSIBLY way it can simply be a failed investment and bad judgment.

There MUST be criminal malfeasance.

Look if you want a poster child for this crony capitalism all the farkers and OWS crowd are biatching about, this is good place to start. I remember a lot of righteous butthurt, and rightly so, about defense contracting abuses "halliburton, WHARGARBLL" A thinly veiled attempt at green energy money laundering deserves some play. It would have been cheaper and more efficient to write you supporters a check.

This whole Solyndra thing is sleazy and emblematic of just how screwed up our political system is.

But, let's be all political and let this one slide.

Subby, I'm sorry you guys have such a desperate need for this to explode into an enormous scandal.

It's just not going to happen. The only thing anyone notices is the desperation on your part.

Car_Ramrod: Graph fight!
Also, going from 10.1% to 9.1% IS lowering unemployment. Just an FYI.

So looking at your graph, when the Democrats took over the House & the Senate, we started losing jobs. Cool story, bro!

/unemployment was lower than 9.1% when Democrats took over Congress and the White House