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2011-11-10 09:13:05 AM
Fark everything, we're doing five blades!
 
2011-11-10 09:32:04 AM
It looks like yet another "now why didn't I think of that" improvement to an existing system. I can see where it would be quite useful on the interstates or other multi-lane roads. While it wouldn't work in the city or on rural secondary roads, deploying it on the larger roads would free up other drivers/trucks to do the other roads.

All in all it looks like a good idea. Hopefully the guy who had the brainstorm was able to patent it before telling others about it....
 
2011-11-10 09:55:18 AM
Bad omen for Free State winter.
 
2011-11-10 10:03:55 AM
What's that name again?

/That name again is Mr. Plow.
 
2011-11-10 11:06:25 AM
That abomination should be set ablaze.
 
2011-11-10 11:58:38 AM
Burn_The_Plows: That abomination should be set ablaze.

LOL
 
2011-11-10 12:04:09 PM
Recoil Therapy: It looks like yet another "now why didn't I think of that" improvement to an existing system. I can see where it would be quite useful on the interstates or other multi-lane roads. While it wouldn't work in the city or on rural secondary roads, deploying it on the larger roads would free up other drivers/trucks to do the other roads.

All in all it looks like a good idea. Hopefully the guy who had the brainstorm was able to patent it before telling others about it....


Yeah, I want to get stuck behind that monstrosity.

img412.imageshack.us
 
2011-11-10 12:40:39 PM
Babwa Wawa: Recoil Therapy: It looks like yet another "now why didn't I think of that" improvement to an existing system. I can see where it would be quite useful on the interstates or other multi-lane roads. While it wouldn't work in the city or on rural secondary roads, deploying it on the larger roads would free up other drivers/trucks to do the other roads.

All in all it looks like a good idea. Hopefully the guy who had the brainstorm was able to patent it before telling others about it....

Yeah, I want to get stuck behind that monstrosity.


Better than being stuck in front of it.
 
2011-11-10 12:43:57 PM
Saw that yesterday... The thought of one of these contraptions going down Rte. 50 or Rte. 97 in MD scares the crap out of me. The guys driving the SHA plows are out of control as it is, can't wait until they have a wider spread of destruction... god help you if you're in a disabled vehicle and get clipped by this thing.
 
2011-11-10 12:44:59 PM
The Bad Astronomer: What's that name again?

/That name again is Mr. Plow.


I chuckled. Then frowned, when I realized winter is just around the corner.
 
2011-11-10 12:45:51 PM
So did they apologize yet for the lack of snow this winter? I mean, it happens every time you get a new snowblower, right?

\bought mine on Tuesday. Sorry.
 
2011-11-10 12:48:15 PM
mpowelljr: Saw that yesterday... The thought of one of these contraptions going down Rte. 50 or Rte. 97 in MD scares the crap out of me. The guys driving the SHA plows are out of control as it is, can't wait until they have a wider spread of destruction... god help you if you're in a disabled vehicle and get clipped by this thing.

I see it more being used on 70, 695, 95, 83,81,15...etc...
 
2011-11-10 12:52:30 PM
Babwa Wawa: Recoil Therapy: It looks like yet another "now why didn't I think of that" improvement to an existing system. I can see where it would be quite useful on the interstates or other multi-lane roads. While it wouldn't work in the city or on rural secondary roads, deploying it on the larger roads would free up other drivers/trucks to do the other roads.

All in all it looks like a good idea. Hopefully the guy who had the brainstorm was able to patent it before telling others about it....

Yeah, I want to get stuck behind that monstrosity.

[img412.imageshack.us image 640x480]


And being stuck behind the blow that would take its place would be better how?
 
2011-11-10 12:52:44 PM

Burn_The_Plows


That abomination should be set ablaze.


*chucklesnort*
 
2011-11-10 12:59:16 PM
Snow plow drivers can stop themselves from hitting stuff on the side. With that thing so far back and on the right of them, they will have zero awareness of its location.

Basically like Babwa Wawa picture, they'll need someone else driving behind the tow to catch problems. Saving nothing in hour-man.

Also that picture is ridiculous, if those 4 trucks had a lifting side plow, they would have covered the same ground as this tow setup.
 
2011-11-10 01:00:33 PM
"Drivers have got to realize that what's in front of the plow is worse than what's behind the plow."

Not in the USA. Drivers know that their opinions about the snow are more real that the snow.

The real question: is this thing tough enough to push the stuck cars onto the shoulder?
 
2011-11-10 01:08:05 PM
Multiplow.

/Plow me, baby.
 
2011-11-10 01:09:27 PM
newtekie1:
And being stuck behind the blow that would take its place would be better how?


You see that picture I posted? You see how 3 of the four lanes are already clear? You see how much traffic there is stopped up behind it? You know how you can see all that?

Because there's not always a blow. Also, snow can be in one lane while the adjacent lane is clear.

Traffic can flow regularly in cleared lanes during a snowfall because plows are one lane wide. Usually they only clear the left lane once the snow has stopped, then they do the whole highway in that staggered configuration you see up there. That's not a problem if you do it during non-peak hours and for short stretches of road. But there's nothing more annoying when they set it up like that during a peak travel period and go for about 50 miles at a time just so they can get that last foot of snow from the left side guardrail.

When one plow can impede three lanes as you see above, that's a recipe for it happening all the time.
 
2011-11-10 01:10:35 PM
Babwa Wawa:

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Seeing that trailer/plow thing kinda sideways makes me think I see a movie out of this, starring Vin Diesel, about a snow plow driver who likes underground drift-racing... I call it "Fast & Furious: Snow Drift".
 
2011-11-10 01:13:16 PM
harpagon: Snow plow drivers can stop themselves from hitting stuff on the side. With that thing so far back and on the right of them, they will have zero awareness of its location.

Basically like Babwa Wawa picture, they'll need someone else driving behind the tow to catch problems. Saving nothing in hour-man.

Also that picture is ridiculous, if those 4 trucks had a lifting side plow, they would have covered the same ground as this tow setup.


That is what I do not get. When I lived in Upstate NY they used dual side blades on the State Trucks and single side blades on the City and County trucks. Two trucks could plow a three lanes at a time.
 
2011-11-10 01:19:50 PM
Three blades - because you're dumb enough to buy it.
 
2011-11-10 01:21:25 PM
Remember guys, this is Maryland.

Until about a decade ago, Maryland's snow removal equipment fleet consisted of six dump trucks, each with a guy in back throwing sand on the road with a coffee can.
 
2011-11-10 01:34:30 PM
HotIgneous Intruder: Remember guys, this is Maryland.

Until about a decade ago, Maryland's snow removal equipment fleet consisted of six dump trucks, each with a guy in back throwing sand on the road with a coffee can.


Umm yeah about that. Not so much.

2/10 but you gave it a shot :)

I can see this being an issue during rush hour but with X number of lane miles to clear they have to get them clear as quickly as possible.
 
2011-11-10 01:51:17 PM
It gets rid of that ugly first layer of asphalt!
 
2011-11-10 02:13:42 PM
Enormous-Schwanstucker: HotIgneous Intruder: Remember guys, this is Maryland.

Until about a decade ago, Maryland's snow removal equipment fleet consisted of six dump trucks, each with a guy in back throwing sand on the road with a coffee can.

Umm yeah about that. Not so much.

2/10 but you gave it a shot :)

I can see this being an issue during rush hour but with X number of lane miles to clear they have to get them clear as quickly as possible.


Not a troll, dude.
I lived in upstate NY (no, far upstate, like 20 miles from Canada upstate) for a decade and also Virginia, northern Virginia, suburban Washington, etc. Maryland's highway situations are mainly high-volume and multi-lane, handling all of that tidal traffic around DC. They need to clear those big lanes fast.

FWIW, in the blizzard of March 1993, I was driving south between Washington and Richmond and I shiat you not, I fell in behind a dump truck with a plow working, but also a man in back with a hand scoop (OK, it wasn't a coffee can, but close enough.) throwing sand and salt behind. That was in the middle of the night, in the midst of the blizzard.

I post based on education and experience. If you think people relating life experience is trolling, then you've got an incredulous and skeptical life. \

/Whatever floats your boat, sunshine.
 
2011-11-10 02:30:40 PM
MODOT has had one of these in the STL area for a few years now; it's actually based out of the highway depot I drive past on my way to work every day.

It works surprisingly well and is pretty well confined to rather wide interstates. To the douchenozzles worried about getting stuck behind one, they only use it when there's a huge snowstorm going on. It means they can clear more lanes with fewer trucks, freeing up those other trucks (that would otherwise be going one per lane in a plow gang) to concentrate on other arterial roads. It has just not been a problem with hitting things... it really only comes out in the plow gang situations anyway, so the nay-sayers hiding behind safety concerns can STFU.

If you're the sort to pass the snow plows in a heavy snowstorm, get the fark off the road and stay home; you're too dangerous to be out there. Getting "stuck" behind a snowplow is part of living in a place that sees winter. Move to SoCal or Texas if it bothers you that much. Otherwise, slow down, take it easy, and let the plows do their work so it's safer for everybody.
 
2011-11-10 02:38:42 PM
HotIgneous Intruder:

I can see this being an issue during rush hour but with X number of lane miles to clear they have to get them clear as quickly as possible.

Not a troll, dude.
I lived in upstate NY (no, far upstate, like 20 miles from Canada upstate) for a decade and also Virginia, northern Virginia, suburban Washington, etc. Maryland's highway situations are mainly high-volume and multi-lane, handling all of that tidal traffic around DC. They need to clear those big lanes fast.

FWIW, in the blizzard of March 1993, I was driving south between Washington and Richmond and I shiat you not, I fell in behind a dump truck with a plow working, but also a man in back with a hand scoop (OK, it wasn't a coffee can, but close enough.) throwing sand and salt behind. That was in the middle of the night, in the midst of the blizzard.

I post based on education and experience. If you think people relating life experience is trolling, then you've got an incredulous and skeptical life. \

/Whatever floats your boat, sunshine.


When you compare up up really UP state NY to the DC area, there would be a bit of a difference but this region has thousands and thousands of vehicles for plowing.

Now, that being said i'd have paid a few bucks to see someone chucking sand/salt out of the back of a truck.

Factoid: In DC/MD/VA there are 232,200+ lane miles and in NY state about 243,000. Even deducting those roads that see little or no snow along the coast and warmer SE areas that's still a considerable amount of roadways to plow and treat.

Relax. Your post came across all trollish and begging for a shot and I'm not getting into a pissing contest with you. If you choose to consider my life incredulous and skeptical based upon the bait you dangled in front of me that's your problem, sunshine, not mine.

Have a nice day, in spite of yourself :)
 
2011-11-10 03:06:45 PM
Enormous-Schwanstucker: HotIgneous Intruder:

I can see this being an issue during rush hour but with X number of lane miles to clear they have to get them clear as quickly as possible.

Not a troll, dude.
I lived in upstate NY (no, far upstate, like 20 miles from Canada upstate) for a decade and also Virginia, northern Virginia, suburban Washington, etc. Maryland's highway situations are mainly high-volume and multi-lane, handling all of that tidal traffic around DC. They need to clear those big lanes fast.

FWIW, in the blizzard of March 1993, I was driving south between Washington and Richmond and I shiat you not, I fell in behind a dump truck with a plow working, but also a man in back with a hand scoop (OK, it wasn't a coffee can, but close enough.) throwing sand and salt behind. That was in the middle of the night, in the midst of the blizzard.

I post based on education and experience. If you think people relating life experience is trolling, then you've got an incredulous and skeptical life. \

/Whatever floats your boat, sunshine.

When you compare up up really UP state NY to the DC area, there would be a bit of a difference but this region has thousands and thousands of vehicles for plowing.

Now, that being said i'd have paid a few bucks to see someone chucking sand/salt out of the back of a truck.

Factoid: In DC/MD/VA there are 232,200+ lane miles and in NY state about 243,000. Even deducting those roads that see little or no snow along the coast and warmer SE areas that's still a considerable amount of roadways to plow and treat.

Relax. Your post came across all trollish and begging for a shot and I'm not getting into a pissing contest with you. If you choose to consider my life incredulous and skeptical based upon the bait you dangled in front of me that's your problem, sunshine, not mine.

Have a nice day, in spite of yourself :)


My point was that southern states have nowhere near the skills, experience, or quality of equipment for snow removal that the north does.
For some, the world is an extremely literal place.

/Paging Dr. Asperger....
//Let me introduce you to my ... ignore list.
///Poof!
 
2011-11-10 03:10:26 PM
Came for mr plow and plow king reference.

/i am disappoint
 
2011-11-10 03:32:25 PM
Naw, I can pretty much attest for virginia. and I remember that storm in 1993. central Virginia doesn't really get THAT much snow usually. in fact, the snow we get coming from the west tends to stop at I-95, Richmond itself is usually spared on account it a giant heat sink, I've watched storms divide themselves around the city and re-merge as the front moves overhead.

in any case, the state just isn't that prepared for mass amounts of snow, Ice sure, we get ice, we get a lot of ice. To invest in a tremendous amount of snow removal equipment when a great deal of the state gets less than four inches of snow WHEN it snows.

so, if yer getting a huge, out of the ordinary storm, than I can legitimately see that every heavy truck , and bolt on plow blade being pressed into service, and Cletus being plopped in the back throw out sand. Cletus usually is on mulch duty over at Maymont park, dudes getting overtime! Don't feel bad or Cletus
 
2011-11-10 03:46:02 PM
HotIgneous Intruder: E

My point was that southern states have nowhere near the skills, experience, or quality of equipment for snow removal that the north does.
For some, the world is an extremely literal place.

/Paging Dr. Asperger....
//Let me introduce you to my ... ignore list.
///Poof!



You have, what we call, "issues". Your panties got so waded up you placed me on ignore after questioning you? Yes, you have Asperger's and you should seek assistance for it immediately.

No one should go through life as bitter and literal as someone like you.
 
2011-11-10 03:58:31 PM
ChrisDe: The Bad Astronomer: What's that name again?

/That name again is Mr. Plow.

I chuckled. Then frowned, when I realized winter is just around the corner.


28.media.tumblr.com
 
2011-11-10 04:08:41 PM
jakrabit: Came for mr plow and plow king reference.

/i am disappoint


A Mr. Plow reference was the fourth comment in the thread! What the hell more do you want?
 
2011-11-10 04:21:01 PM
akula: jakrabit: Came for mr plow and plow king reference.

/i am disappoint

A Mr. Plow reference was the fourth comment in the thread! What the hell more do you want?


I like pretty pictures
 
2011-11-10 04:23:04 PM
Don't think this will hurt jobs they don't have nearly enough drivers or plows to keep up with the snow here, I live 5 min from lavale and work in Hagerstown.... Getting a kick .
 
2011-11-10 04:27:38 PM
Akula,
If you're the sort to pass the snow plows in a heavy snowstorm, get the fark off the road and stay home; you're too dangerous to be out there. Getting "stuck" behind a snowplow is part of living in a place that sees winter. Move to SoCal or Texas if it bothers you that much. Otherwise, slow down, take it easy, and let the plows do their work so it's safer for everybody.


I don't know what you call a heavy snowstorm. I have a simple front wheel drive car where I know I need to be able to decelerate as much as I accelerate, and often pass snowplows. I have not *yet* found myself in a median.

I think your off on that.
 
2011-11-10 04:46:09 PM
"Our typical plow trucks block traffic anyway," he said. "Drivers have got to realize that what's in front of the plow is worse than what's behind the plow."

Judging from the morons who try to "beat trains" and end up as "spam in a can," I'm not hopefully they'll come to that realization!
 
2011-11-10 05:04:10 PM
jakrabit: akula: jakrabit: Came for mr plow and plow king reference.

/i am disappoint

A Mr. Plow reference was the fourth comment in the thread! What the hell more do you want?

I like pretty pictures


i.imgur.com
 
2011-11-10 06:08:03 PM
Sybarite: Fark everything, we're doing five blades!

I came in here looking for this reference.
 
2011-11-10 06:39:22 PM
akula: MODOT has had one of these in the STL area for a few years now; it's actually based out of the highway depot I drive past on my way to work every day.

It works surprisingly well and is pretty well confined to rather wide interstates. To the douchenozzles worried about getting stuck behind one, they only use it when there's a huge snowstorm going on. It means they can clear more lanes with fewer trucks, freeing up those other trucks (that would otherwise be going one per lane in a plow gang) to concentrate on other arterial roads. It has just not been a problem with hitting things... it really only comes out in the plow gang situations anyway, so the nay-sayers hiding behind safety concerns can STFU.

If you're the sort to pass the snow plows in a heavy snowstorm, get the fark off the road and stay home; you're too dangerous to be out there. Getting "stuck" behind a snowplow is part of living in a place that sees winter. Move to SoCal or Texas if it bothers you that much. Otherwise, slow down, take it easy, and let the plows do their work so it's safer for everybody.


img546.imageshack.us
 
2011-11-10 07:19:55 PM
wm734: Don't think this will hurt jobs they don't have nearly enough drivers or plows to keep up with the snow here, I live 5 min from lavale and work in Hagerstown.... Getting a kick .

I take dead people from Cumberland to O.C.M.E. Baltimore along that route. Isn't it fun going through The Cut when it's too foggy too see the guard rail between the east and westbound lanes, even if you're in the left lane? The snowplow drivers are scary, and parts of the road are so uneven and bumpy that the plows only get about 25% contact with the road. Not fun.
 
2011-11-10 07:22:03 PM
ZMugg: wm734: Don't think this will hurt jobs they don't have nearly enough drivers or plows to keep up with the snow here, I live 5 min from lavale and work in Hagerstown.... Getting a kick .

I take dead people from Cumberland to O.C.M.E. Baltimore along that route. Isn't it fun going through The Cut when it's too foggy to see the guard rail between the east and westbound lanes, even if you're in the left lane? The snowplow drivers are scary, and parts of the road are so uneven and bumpy that the plows only get about 25% contact with the road. Not fun.


FTFM
 
2011-11-10 07:45:31 PM
yeah its even better for the late season snow and they've already used the snow removal budget. Out of salt and not sending the plows out until the snow stops falling. Every one at work is begging for the overtime so they don't have to drive back to Cumberland.
 
2011-11-10 08:22:52 PM
Enemabag Jones: I don't know what you call a heavy snowstorm. I have a simple front wheel drive car where I know I need to be able to decelerate as much as I accelerate, and often pass snowplows. I have not *yet* found myself in a median.

Snowplows don't move that fast, it isn't hard to pass them. But even in a 4x4 with dedicated winter tires, I prefer to drive on plowed roads and stay the hell back behind them.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2011-11-10 08:45:25 PM
On Massachusetts highways you have the scraping of the wet roadway while throwing chunks of salt at nearby cars, which is best passed as quickly as possible; and the moving of inches of snow to the side, which is best followed at a safe distance.
 
2011-11-10 08:46:53 PM
akula,Snowplows don't move that fast, it isn't hard to pass them. But even in a 4x4 with dedicated winter tires, I prefer to drive on plowed roads and stay the hell back behind them.

Funny part about that, how many 4x4's does one see in the ditch.
 
2011-11-10 09:20:18 PM
Enemabag Jones: akula,Snowplows don't move that fast, it isn't hard to pass them. But even in a 4x4 with dedicated winter tires, I prefer to drive on plowed roads and stay the hell back behind them.

Funny part about that, how many 4x4's does one see in the ditch.


16?
 
2011-11-10 10:08:22 PM
Enemabag Jones: akula,Snowplows don't move that fast, it isn't hard to pass them. But even in a 4x4 with dedicated winter tires, I prefer to drive on plowed roads and stay the hell back behind them.

Funny part about that, how many 4x4's does one see in the ditch.


There's no shortage of people who think four driven wheels excuse them from the laws of physics and ignore the role quality tires can play as well as the need to still drive cautiously. I've seen vehicles of ALL kinds "in the ditch" or otherwise struggling for various reasons- poor tire choice, driving on worn tires, and general driver incompetence. For a FWD driver to claim their vehicle is superior to an AWD vehicle in snow is just stupid... it's only superior if the other parts of the puzzle are competent. For the record, I'll put my Grand Cherokee/Bridgestone Blizzak DM-V1 combo up against anything else in any winter weather condition. It is always clearly superior to a FWD vehicle? No, but IMO, it stacks the deck as much as possible in my favor.

The simple fact is that a few inches of snow is NOT easy to drive in, and even with the best possible set of equipment and skill, you still have to exercise caution. Passing the plow truck is not generally considered cautious or prudent by most people. It might not bite you in the ass, but I'd just as soon that kind of driver hurry up and get off the road one way or the other before they hurt somebody else.

Of course, the real fun isn't when it's snow. It's when it's freezing rain or sheet ice, which here in the STL area, we get about as often as actual snow. It was amusing to watch the salt truck slide backwards down our street last winter. That was moments after we had gotten home without a single problem (the Continental WinterExtremeContact tire kicks ass... we had zero issues with traction).
 
2011-11-10 10:21:43 PM

The engineless equipment frees the maintenance truck it replaces to cover other areas, and reduces fuel costs and emissions. The TowPLow also can apply salt or salt brine to the road, the SHA said.



Yes, most trailers, even blades, are "engineless". What a bunch of fluff crap.

Do not attempt to slant this as "green", you assholes. Towing the thing costs fuel, and increases emissions. You can't run one of those at the same speed as a normal plow. You are spending more time on the road, obstructing more traffic which will spend their time idling, and generally seeing how far you can push this "OMG SO EFFICIENT AND GREEN" angle in order to save labor overhead. Assholes. Have fun when your dumb plow smashes into everything in sight because people aren't used to driving around that dumb shiat and your drivers are the kind of people who jump to get quoted in a news article.
 
2011-11-10 11:49:06 PM
We've had these for years in Utah.... Failmitter
 
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