Yup. TFA says it all.

teto85: Yup. TFA says it all.

Except that the five other schools had infractions that you could point to and say, 'yep, they violated it'. Obviously, because I'm having a reaction that doesn't involve nuking PSU from orbit, executing the players, and traveling back in time to stop Joe Paterno from being born, I MUST be pro-pedophilia and helped Sandusky hunt his victims down

Aar1012: teto85: Yup. TFA says it all.

Except that the five other schools had infractions that you could point to in the rule book and say, 'yep, they violated it'. Obviously, because I'm having a reaction that doesn't involve nuking PSU from orbit, executing the players, and traveling back in time to stop Joe Paterno from being born, I MUST be pro-pedophilia and helped Sandusky hunt his victims down

FTFM

I'm not aware of any NCAA bylaw that says you can't get balls deep in a 10 year old's ass.

I know, that's horrible, but it's not an NCAA matter. This is one for the courts. But still, they shouldn't play football for a long time. Corrupt school is corrupt.

Oh for fark's sake.

If the NCAA bylaws have ZERO things there that are even tangentially in the generic penalties for "anything that could disparage the morals or image of the NCAA", then, probably imapirate is unfortunately correct, they don't have a legal leg to stand on.

One would hope that somewhere in the bizarre and stupid list of bylaws the NCAA has for things down to what foods the teams can put on the breakfast buffets for players, that there is at least something that something like this situation could have a harsh penalty for.

dletter: If the NCAA bylaws have ZERO things there that are even tangentially in the generic penalties for "anything that could disparage the morals or image of the NCAA", then, probably imapirate is unfortunately correct, they don't have a legal leg to stand on.

One would hope that somewhere in the bizarre and stupid list of bylaws the NCAA has for things down to what foods the teams can put on the breakfast buffets for players, that there is at least something that something like this situation could have a harsh penalty for.

It's a shame too, isn't it? They have rules and laws for everything else but when something like this happens everyone still gets to play football like nothing happened. Just a sad situation all around.

Jesus, why do I keep clicking these threads? It's like a f*cking train wreck. :-|

imapirate: everyone still gets to play football like nothing happened.

Because the current roster (the players) should be punished for events that happened when they were in grade school. Yes, it was terrible what happened....but did the current players need to be punished?

Aar1012: Because the current roster (the players) should be punished for events that happened when they were in grade school. Yes, it was terrible what happened....but did the current players need to be punished?

Look, I don't have the answers. I don't know what should happen. I've tried to view this thing as a sports fan, but I keep circling around and viewing it as a dad. I can't help it. I'm just sickened by the whole thing. I wish it would go away. I read that damn grand jury report last night and it made me want to puke.

My thought is simply that Paterno's entire staff should have been fired with him, and that if the NCAA can penalize the school, it should. But I'm comfortable with Paterno and the President and AD being fired.

If I could, I'd shut down football there for 5 years. No coaches or players. But the players would retain their eligibility and would help them transfer. But that isn't possible or even an NCAA consideration.

Aar1012:
Because the current roster (the players) should be punished for events that happened when they were in grade school. Yes, it was terrible what happened....but did the current players need to be punished?

This is what I keep coming back to. All of the people who advocate for stuff like the NCAA death penalty or just locking the doors on the football program seem to forget that doing any of those things hurts people who had absolutely nothing to do with
the cover up. Not only people directly associated with the football program, but also people who are involved in other things that football revenue helps fund.

TBH, I couldn't give two shiats about Penn State football. In fact, I don't care about any college sports, but it's really not fair to people who have no association with the current problems to be penalized for them.

Meh, they're gonna get sanctioned enough when most moms out there tells their kid that there's no way in hell they are going to go to PSU. Seriously, this fark up will be felt for several years. Also:

imapirate: I'm not aware of any NCAA bylaw that says you can't get balls deep in a 10 year old's ass.

Dammit, you are one of the reasons I'm on an express ticket to hell.

Question: everyone seems to be focusing on Paterno and the other school officials that did little or nothing... but what about the coach that actually witnessed it? Sure, he reported it to his higherups in the school... but he actually walked in on this! He didn't hear it second hand like all the other ones (which aren't excued) But did he just walk in and out and report it at a later time? I'd would seem to me the that this should be the kind of thing that one would walk into and scream out "what the fark are you doing you sick fark!" once the dude is startled and tries to play it off as though nothing was going on one should take that child by the hand away from him and call the police on one's own w/o talking to a boss or anything. If you happen to be standing near some sort of blunt object one may be excused for causing some major trauma to the sick perv while you wait for 911 to arrive. Although the dude is probably a big football guy... so if you can't be tough guy and just call the police, that's cool too.

kbronsito: Question: everyone seems to be focusing on Paterno and the other school officials that did little or nothing... but what about the coach that actually witnessed it? Sure, he reported it to his higherups in the school... but he actually walked in on this! He didn't hear it second hand like all the other ones (which aren't excued) But did he just walk in and out and report it at a later time? I'd would seem to me the that this should be the kind of thing that one would walk into and scream out "what the fark are you doing you sick fark!" once the dude is startled and tries to play it off as though nothing was going on one should take that child by the hand away from him and call the police on one's own w/o talking to a boss or anything. If you happen to be standing near some sort of blunt object one may be excused for causing some major trauma to the sick perv while you wait for 911 to arrive. Although the dude is probably a big football guy... so if you can't be tough guy and just call the police, that's cool too.

As I've said previously, they all should burn. That guy did what college assistants do...take controversy to the head coach who then deals with it like a Godfather. The system is farked. But yes, he deserves condemnation too. In fact, for all of them it is bad since this guy, Sandusky kept bringing kids around Penn State for years after and they all saw it. At what point do you crack when you see a guy you know farks little boys, coming around practice with more little boys. At what point do you say "Um, this is enough." At what point do you think, OMG, is he molesting that kid too?

They all should burn. It's sick.

I can comprehend (not accept, understand, condone, think normal, rational or even sane) the difficulty of reporting a priest for raping a child. Faith, trust, deep religious indoctrination, I get that. Not reporting a farking football coach you caught IN THE ACT of raping a child to police? I get it, football is like a religion to people but for fark's sake, this taking a metaphor too far!

Its remarkable we even have to have this discussion. If a corporation were routinely having one of its Directors or Vice Presidents anally raping 10 year old boys on company property, we'd expect a bit more of a reaction than "would you please mind going off property if you want to do that, VP old pal"

We'd expect the CEO and the rest of the management involved to be held accountable, possibly face jail time.

But this seems to be less a corporate environment and more a family, a sports family. Does that alone make it alright?

So why is this any different in sports? Paterno new, in 1999. Did nothing. Told his athletic director. Took away Sandusky's keys to the locker room.

As recently as 2007 or 2009 (havent followed that closely) Sandusky is still part of the program, still working out in the team gym, still more or less a welcomed employee.

At what point do we stop making excuses for criminal behavior? "Oh, but he graduated a lot of his students." SUPER. He also let little boys get raped on campus by one of his trusted assistant coaches, a man once considered to be his heir apparent.

Its almost the "but the trains ran on time" argument. Everything sort of pales in comparison to the whole mass murder part.

While this isnt mass murder, I know plenty of people who view child rape as probably worse.

I don't really have a lot of things to say, pedo state needs to face the fact that it condoned child rape, just like the catholic church. And those idiot frat boys that rioted last night ought to be prosecuted as well. As for Paterno? And that outgoing university president? I keep coming back to they had to have known in 1999 and did nothing. That seems illegal to me, not sure, but it doesn't seem like something you'd want just being allowed to retire over.

Ask one of the kids this punk Sandusky raped if he wants to forgive JoePa. I suspect I'd want him facing charges if it had been me, even all those years later.

xanadian: Jesus, why do I keep clicking these threads? It's like a f*cking train wreck. :-|

I'm guessing that an article from the Bleacher Report isn't going to help that.

teto85: Yup. TFA says it all.

They certainly do make a very compelling case for it.

Aar1012: imapirate: everyone still gets to play football like nothing happened.

Because the current roster (the players) should be punished for events that happened when they were in grade school. Yes, it was terrible what happened....but did the current players need to be punished?

Every school punished by the NCAA hurts the players currently playing, look at USC. I don't think any of the players currently playing there were playing when the Cam Newton stuff went down.

The shut the program and let the players transfer without penalty. It is the right thing to do.

I_C_Weener: At what point do you crack when you see a guy you know farks little boys, coming around practice with more little boys. At what point do you say "Um, this is enough."

The very first time it happens!!!!

kbronsito: Question: everyone seems to be focusing on Paterno and the other school officials that did little or nothing... but what about the coach that actually witnessed it? Sure, he reported it to his higherups in the school... but he actually walked in on this! He didn't hear it second hand like all the other ones (which aren't excued) But did he just walk in and out and report it at a later time? I'd would seem to me the that this should be the kind of thing that one would walk into and scream out "what the fark are you doing you sick fark!" once the dude is startled and tries to play it off as though nothing was going on one should take that child by the hand away from him and call the police on one's own w/o talking to a boss or anything. If you happen to be standing near some sort of blunt object one may be excused for causing some major trauma to the sick perv while you wait for 911 to arrive. Although the dude is probably a big football guy... so if you can't be tough guy and just call the police, that's cool too.

%100 spot on sir! It would never cross my mind to do anything less than you have described. You end that shiat immediately and do whatever you can to make sure he never victimizes anyone again. You take that blunt object and crush balls then claim he attacked you when confronted.

It would be considered euthanasia at this point.

DalaiLamaDingDong: I agree. Also, 4 threads in 3 days? LAME.

If only there were an an individual whose job it was to read over current greenlights and make sure there aren't duplicates.

I automatically disagree with the article because it's on Bleacher Report. God, I hate that site.

Lost Thought 00: NCAA can't jump in ahead of criminal investigations.

If there's one thing the NCAA loves to do, it's stick its f*cking nose in everything under the sun remotely related to college sports.

Those little asswipes caused a riot over the guy getting fired. They over turned a news truck and everything.

UNC_Samurai: shiat might get really real. (new window)

FTA: "Let's start by warning you that this is a rumor, but..."

*closes tab*

This is too incendiary an issue for a bunch of retards to start recycling rumors in order to get attention.