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2011-11-09 10:10:45 PM  
I have no tolerance for actual "deadbeat dads", but what those women did is basically evil.

This kind of thing is going to be a huuuuge problem in a few years when a woman will be able to use any sample of DNA (harvested from a toothbrush, hairbrush, etc.) to impregnate herself.

Imagine the risk in something as simple as staying in a hotel room where anyone from housekeeping would have enough access to steal half your income for the next 20 years... Scary.
 
2011-11-09 10:28:00 PM  
FTA:When, 14 years ago, his girlfriend of just a few weeks announced her pregnancy, the news was coupled with an astonishing admission: she claimed to have impregnated herself using a condom that they had discarded after sex.

Stories like this just reinforce the fact that men should have a contraceptive pill.

So you suspect you're banging a psycho hose-beast who'll dig a used condom out of the trash to steal your little fecundal soldiers? Pop a pill and fark worry-free!
 
2011-11-09 10:31:38 PM  
This is one reason I think I'm gonna get snipped.

Right now I don't want kids.

That might change of course.

However if it does change, I think I would much rather adopt then pass along genes that I haven't liked much to begin with.
 
2011-11-09 10:37:56 PM  
Back when Tom Leykis was on the air, he used to warn men about women who would fish used condoms out of the trash and steal the sperm to impregnate themselves.

His advice was to pour a little Tabasco sauce in the condom before tossing it away.

Seriously though, but there should be a law protecting men from this kind of thing.
 
2011-11-09 10:44:03 PM  
There's a reason I only cum in her mouth.

/sorry dear
 
2011-11-09 11:08:46 PM  

Whatthefark: Back when Tom Leykis was on the air, he used to warn men about women who would fish used condoms out of the trash and steal the sperm to impregnate themselves.

His advice was to pour a little Tabasco sauce in the condom before tossing it away.

Seriously though, but there should be a law protecting men from this kind of thing.



I was going to mention the Tabasco thing, but I see that my work here is done.
 
2011-11-09 11:22:33 PM  
You guys know the DailyFail makes stuff up to troll hit counts, right, you know that. Carry on your moral outrage.
 
2011-11-09 11:23:04 PM  

The_Sponge: Whatthefark: Back when Tom Leykis was on the air, he used to warn men about women who would fish used condoms out of the trash and steal the sperm to impregnate themselves.

His advice was to pour a little Tabasco sauce in the condom before tossing it away.

Seriously though, but there should be a law protecting men from this kind of thing.


I was going to mention the Tabasco thing, but I see that my work here is done.


www.hotchili-mike.se
 
2011-11-09 11:30:58 PM  
I wonder how this compares to the number of kids conceived via rape?
 
2011-11-09 11:40:18 PM  

Generation_D: You guys know the DailyFail makes stuff up to troll hit counts, right, you know that. Carry on your moral outrage.


Maybe in some cases, but in the U.S. this really happened some years back. Here's an article from 2005 (new window) regarding that case.
 
2011-11-10 12:15:12 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: Maybe in some cases, but in the U.S. this really happensed some years back frequently enough to deserve attention.


Any caring father, even those in happy and stable relationships, observe with horror the ease with which their paternal rights are stripped.

/As luck would have it, my wife is easy to please.
//A statement with which I'm sure many of you farkers would concur.
 
2011-11-10 12:17:32 AM  

R.A.Danny: The_Sponge: Whatthefark: Back when Tom Leykis was on the air, he used to warn men about women who would fish used condoms out of the trash and steal the sperm to impregnate themselves.

His advice was to pour a little Tabasco sauce in the condom before tossing it away.

Seriously though, but there should be a law protecting men from this kind of thing.


I was going to mention the Tabasco thing, but I see that my work here is done.

[www.hotchili-mike.se image 190x654]



I LOL'd.
 
2011-11-10 12:19:39 AM  

itazurakko: I wonder how this compares to the number of kids conceived via rape?


I wonder how many apples it takes to make a quart of orange juice?
 
2011-11-10 12:34:43 AM  

Whatthefark: Back when Tom Leykis was on the air, he used to warn men about women who would fish used condoms out of the trash and steal the sperm to impregnate themselves.

His advice was to pour a little Tabasco sauce in the condom before tossing it away.

Seriously though, but there should be a law protecting men from this kind of thing.


Yeah, but men are always liars, and women are never wrong. So write the check, farker!
 
2011-11-10 12:50:45 AM  

Babwa Wawa: itazurakko: I wonder how this compares to the number of kids conceived via rape?

I wonder how many apples it takes to make a quart of orange juice?


And how many oranges do you find in an apple orchard?

/but when you find 'em, oh yeah they're newsworthy all right
 
2011-11-10 01:08:00 AM  

Babwa Wawa: itazurakko: I wonder how this compares to the number of kids conceived via rape?

I wonder how many apples it takes to make a quart of orange juice?


Take all the oranges from the apples trees which a woodchuck chucked
 
2011-11-10 01:21:50 AM  
A friend of mine did something similar a little while back. She was seeing some retard and it all went bad and they split up. A few weeks later she discovers that she's pregnent, and as she'd just hit 32, the biological clock locked her in a headvice and she got all determined to have the kid. She didn't want a thing to do with this guy though, so she just never told him. I don't see a problem with this. So long as she doesn't act like a coontbag down the road and start claiming child support, I don't see the harm. Knowing her, she'll keep her word.

However given the same circumstances with a different couple, the potential for the guy to get royally screwed here for doing nothing wrong is something that needs to be addressed somehow. Some sort of pre-nat-nup or something equally romantic I guess...
 
2011-11-10 02:58:24 AM  

SJKebab: She didn't want a thing to do with this guy though, so she just never told him. I don't see a problem with this. So long as she doesn't act like a coontbag down the road and start claiming child support, I don't see the harm. Knowing her, she'll keep her word.


Not really the same situation as here, though, is it? It doesn't sound like your friend used deception to get consent for something he otherwise wouldn't have consented to (yes, I'm on the pill; I can't get pregnant; I've had my tubes tied) or outright theft of sperm after he'd taken measures to avoid conception.
 
2011-11-10 03:01:00 AM  

SJKebab: A friend of mine did something similar a little while back. She was seeing some retard and it all went bad and they split up. A few weeks later she discovers that she's pregnent, and as she'd just hit 32, the biological clock locked her in a headvice and she got all determined to have the kid. She didn't want a thing to do with this guy though, so she just never told him. I don't see a problem with this. So long as she doesn't act like a coontbag down the road and start claiming child support, I don't see the harm. Knowing her, she'll keep her word.

However given the same circumstances with a different couple, the potential for the guy to get royally screwed here for doing nothing wrong is something that needs to be addressed somehow. Some sort of pre-nat-nup or something equally romantic I guess...


Just a law: the father should be able to disown the child. You go to a judge, the woman goes too. You both tell your side of the story. If the judge thinks the father has the right of it, boom ties cut. If the judge thinks the mother has the right of it, boom you agree to child support for at least a year before you can appeal.

Or even better, just eliminate child support. Can't pay for your kid? We should all band together as a community and help you. Used to be a time when this happened for widows and soldier's sweethearts. Pepridge Farms remembers...


/Want eight kids like octomom? We should all band together as a community and wall your womb up with concrete until you get enough money to feed your sick obsession.
 
2011-11-10 03:18:27 AM  

doglover: Just a law: the father should be able to disown the child.


That would be abused so fast and hard it wouldn't be funny.

For every man who was 'oopsed,' there would be ten who just wanted to get out of paying. And how is he-said-she-said going to prove anything? It doesn't apply in other cases of law.

It's not pleasant, but there are predatory women out there, just like predatory men. The only way to be absolutely, positively certain you won't get 'oopsed' is to maintain control of your sperm at all times. Don't trust "I'm on the pill;" don't leave used condoms behind. And don't sleep with someone if you've got any reason to think something's not right, if something's setting off your instinctive warnings.
 
2011-11-10 03:29:58 AM  
I never particularly wanted kids. Growing up, I had a younger brother and sister and a niece and I got to observe all of the 'FUN' involved. Like babies are essentially poop machines for the first year of their lives and have a screaming cry that seems designed to attract every predator in the area -- unlike animal babies. Not to mention that the cry seems also designed to pi$$ off every other person in the vicinity. Then the periodic feedings every few hours in the night when you have to get up at 5 to go to work. The frequent trips to the Dr. The mess when trying to feed it solid food.

I have no idea why an infant will suddenly and unexpectedly barf anywhere at any time without the slightest indication that it might do so. Usually, on your suit.

With a family of 4 kids, I got to observe the drama, the trips to the Dr., the occasional trips to the ER, the worry of Mom and Dad if one or more got sick. The squabbles (many of which I was involved in) between the kids and when the teens came about, parents started developing gray hair.

By the time I was working my arse off, the concept of getting up every few hours with the wife to tend to the kid took on the image of prolonged torture. Plus, I'd been around enough pregnant women to know that they seem to become temporarily schizophrenic. Damned if you do and damned if you don't. (Each time my Mom got pregnant, my Dad developed a sudden interest in working out in the yard for long periods of time.)

Working in medicine at the time, I got a real good education about pregnancy, child birth, child care and the massive amount of prenatal and post-birth problems that could not only happen but which could basically bankrupt the suffering parents or split them up.

I decided not to have kids.

However, a g/f of mine, years later, was determined to have one, whether I agreed or not. I had to buy a pile of contraceptives and make sure they were used before sex and she STILL managed to get me a few times unprotected. Even though I was assured I'd not have any responsibility for any baby, I didn't believe her, especially when she started dropping hints about marriage.

Well, she got knocked up and supposedly not by me. (She cheated.) That ended the relationship quickly. I suspect the kid is mine, but, honestly, I don't want anything to do with him. Besides, she married the 'father', who, interestingly enough, doesn't resemble the kid.

I mean, I don't find any reason to be attracted to a child of mine (if any) when I didn't want one in the first place. I don't feel any duty to be in the kid's life even if he is mine. People seem to consider that as callous, but I'm not the only one who feels this way. I certainly don't want to pay child support for a kid I did not want.

I find the trend of suing anonymous sperm donors for support of kids born from their sperm both disturbing and somehow illegal.

In my time, I changed enough diapers, handled messy kids, fished the suicidal little bastiges out of harms way many times and got appalled at the gross stupidity -- something animals seem to lack -- and put up with enough hours of screaming and crying to last me for a life time.

But, yeah. I've been aware of women tricking men into having babies for decades now. Usually the poor SOBs wind up getting dragged into child support for something they didn't want in the first place.

I don't even like to be around other people's kids until they're about 4 years old and have developed a bit of common sense and people skills.

(Your 3 year old, leaning over the back of a diner seat, yapping at me, grinning, bubbling, whining, talking at the top of his lungs while I'm trying to enjoy my meal risks getting his head turned around by 180 degrees.)

BTW. Don't expect me to coo and admire your infant in that huge baby carriage either. Most, IMO, look like fat little demons, others look like funny monkeys and some are just butt ugly.
 
2011-11-10 03:39:42 AM  
Happened to my ex-partner...his wife at the time said she was on the pill.
Maybe she meant Flintstone vitamins, because it sure as hell wasn't B/C.

Boy's gonna be a man (21) next year...he loves that kid like crazy.
Ex-wife not so much.
 
2011-11-10 03:48:16 AM  

Chariset: doglover: Just a law: the father should be able to disown the child.

That would be abused so fast and hard it wouldn't be funny.

For every man who was 'oopsed,' there would be ten who just wanted to get out of paying. And how is he-said-she-said going to prove anything? It doesn't apply in other cases of law.

It's not pleasant, but there are predatory women out there, just like predatory men. The only way to be absolutely, positively certain you won't get 'oopsed' is to maintain control of your sperm at all times. Don't trust "I'm on the pill;" don't leave used condoms behind. And don't sleep with someone if you've got any reason to think something's not right, if something's setting off your instinctive warnings.


I agree with the rest, but crazy women (and I assume crazy men) are ANIMALS in the sack. Seriously, they can do things no one else can.

I also realize there's no way to have child support laws be fair. The only way to fix society is to move beyond the silly concept of money for needs. Wants, we still need money. But food, medicine, shelter? With modern technology the basics should be free or available for token four hours of service to the community per day.
 
2011-11-10 04:13:04 AM  
Honestly, though, having a son and/or daughter would be at least 100x more awesome than actually just having sex, I think any of my exes contacting me with a "hey, it's yours" would be more 'wait, what? AWESOME' territory than anything else. My biology has been yelling at me to be a father for like the last decade, I think at this point I'd jump right on that shiat, true or not, just to shut the hormones the hell up.

//Plus, c'mon, passing your memes on to someone else is just flat-out awesome.
 
2011-11-10 04:14:36 AM  
If you are so concerned about this happening to you, having a woman steal your sperm, couldn't you just get some sperm stored/frozen then get snipped so you won't have kids unless you actually want to? Seems like it might save some heart/wallet ache.
 
2011-11-10 04:16:17 AM  

SJKebab: A friend of mine did something similar a little while back. She was seeing some retard and it all went bad and they split up. A few weeks later she discovers that she's pregnent, and as she'd just hit 32, the biological clock locked her in a headvice and she got all determined to have the kid. She didn't want a thing to do with this guy though, so she just never told him. I don't see a problem with this. So long as she doesn't act like a coontbag down the road and start claiming child support, I don't see the harm. Knowing her, she'll keep her word.


I see a huge problem. She stole his child. That's kind of a big deal for some people.
 
2011-11-10 04:17:23 AM  

Generation_D: You guys know the DailyFail makes stuff up to troll hit counts, right, you know that. Carry on your moral outrage.


A good troll is indistinguishable from the truth.

This site claims four women admit to intentionally impregnating themselves. That may or may not be true. But it is true that some women do intentionally get pregnant. And that's not anything new. So, while it might just be a hot-topic issue designed to get hits, the discussion/argument that follows is just as valid. Unless you are claiming no woman has ever done anything dishonest or deceitful to get knocked up for her own personal benefit.
 
2011-11-10 04:19:28 AM  

doglover: Chariset: doglover: Just a law: the father should be able to disown the child.

That would be abused so fast and hard it wouldn't be funny.

For every man who was 'oopsed,' there would be ten who just wanted to get out of paying. And how is he-said-she-said going to prove anything? It doesn't apply in other cases of law.

It's not pleasant, but there are predatory women out there, just like predatory men. The only way to be absolutely, positively certain you won't get 'oopsed' is to maintain control of your sperm at all times. Don't trust "I'm on the pill;" don't leave used condoms behind. And don't sleep with someone if you've got any reason to think something's not right, if something's setting off your instinctive warnings.

I agree with the rest, but crazy women (and I assume crazy men) are ANIMALS in the sack. Seriously, they can do things no one else can.

I also realize there's no way to have child support laws be fair. The only way to fix society is to move beyond the silly concept of money for needs. Wants, we still need money. But food, medicine, shelter? With modern technology the basics should be free or available for token four hours of service to the community per day.


I think the system could be a lot more fair, to be perfectly honest. Maybe we can't reach a perfect solution everyone will agree is fair - but we could get closer.
 
2011-11-10 04:33:47 AM  

Whatthefark: His advice was to pour a little Tabasco sauce in the condom before tossing it away.


Whatever happened to flushing them?
 
2011-11-10 04:37:35 AM  
Child support laws aren't about justice; they're about keeping the burden of entitlement programs from getting out of control. If you started creating exemptions to child support i.e. situations in which only one parent is responsible, those kids would always be one parent away from being the government's problem. Even with to parents legally responsible, there are way too many neglected kids.
 
2011-11-10 04:39:36 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: Whatthefark: His advice was to pour a little Tabasco sauce in the condom before tossing it away.

Whatever happened to flushing them?


I like where you're going with this, but the "moral majority" seems to have a slight problem with flushing babies. I think they prefer you leave them at fire stations. Speaking of, that'd be an awesome premise for a Kevin James/Adam Sandler movie.
 
2011-11-10 04:40:08 AM  

Rik01: I never particularly wanted kids. Growing up, I had a younger brother and sister and a niece and I got to observe all of the 'FUN' involved. Like babies are essentially poop machines for the first year of their lives and have a screaming cry that seems designed to attract every predator in the area -- unlike animal babies. Not to mention that the cry seems also designed to pi$$ off every other person in the vicinity. Then the periodic feedings every few hours in the night when you have to get up at 5 to go to work. The frequent trips to the Dr. The mess when trying to feed it solid food.

(....)



Something tells me she didn't "get you" unprotected.. you knew what you were doing going into it. You were fully aware she expected and wanted kids but you remained in the relationship. That isn't a small like like a disagreement over what to have for dinner. You both had different, big, life altering goals in life. Whether you like it or not you'd be responsible for the kid financially. In many states that's retroactive even after the kid becomes an adult.

Other than that, yeah. Kids are shiat machines for the first several years. They cry. A lot. They wake you up. I have a 4 and 6 year old.. there is a lot more cuteness now. My wife and I are expecting a baby Jan 1st, but have many indications it will be much sooner. In many ways I am dreading the first year.. but after that it really becomes awesome. No matter their age there are going to be shiatty times-- but even moreso as they are teenagers. I have some teenager sisters... when my daughters are that age it will certainly try my patience. Regardless, my wife and I are hoping for a son the next time around. She doesn't have to work and I work one job. I guess I'm not the 99% but I'm definitely not the 1%. I'm .. an enigma... wrapped in a question, filled with .. I dunno, something cool. Pretend I said something cool.
 
2011-11-10 04:40:47 AM  

Raw_fishFood: If you are so concerned about this happening to you, having a woman steal your sperm, couldn't you just get some sperm stored/frozen then get snipped so you won't have kids unless you actually want to? Seems like it might save some heart/wallet ache.


Yeah, the obvious response to crazy people is to change your behavior, instead of doing the sane thing in expecting that crazy people stop being farking crazy.
 
2011-11-10 04:46:20 AM  
Three choices:

1. Do not have sex.
2. Use protection.
3. Get sterilized.

Only two of these are really fool proof.
 
2011-11-10 04:48:13 AM  
Doesn't Fark have a stock picture somewhere, that says "Don't stick your dick in crazy"?
 
2011-11-10 04:50:26 AM  

Bunnyhat: This is one reason I think I'm gonna get snipped.

Right now I don't want kids.


While I applaud your decision not to procreate, I feel it is my duty to point out, that you can have some of your sperm frozen.

Besides Angelina already adopted all the kids.
 
2011-11-10 04:54:51 AM  
These whores are always knockin' themselves up and then tryin' to blame someome.
 
2011-11-10 04:55:43 AM  
UnCSB:

A dozen or so years back, I was seeing a pretty great girl. We'd been dating a year or two, and on the way back from a vacation, we started talking about kids. She's an only child; I'm 4 of five. She wanted kids; I didn't.

That was pretty much the end of the relationship right there. (I/we could have handled the end better, but we ended up not hating each other. Well, I don't hate her, and she still talks to me occasionally, so I hope she doesn't hate me...)

Punchline: I eventually married into a family, so I'm the stepdad of 3 kids (and doing a pretty miserable job of it). She still doesn't have any kids. Go figure.

At least I managed to not pass on my defective genes.
 
2011-11-10 05:03:20 AM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: doglover: Chariset: doglover: Just a law: the father should be able to disown the child.

That would be abused so fast and hard it wouldn't be funny.

For every man who was 'oopsed,' there would be ten who just wanted to get out of paying. And how is he-said-she-said going to prove anything? It doesn't apply in other cases of law.

It's not pleasant, but there are predatory women out there, just like predatory men. The only way to be absolutely, positively certain you won't get 'oopsed' is to maintain control of your sperm at all times. Don't trust "I'm on the pill;" don't leave used condoms behind. And don't sleep with someone if you've got any reason to think something's not right, if something's setting off your instinctive warnings.

I agree with the rest, but crazy women (and I assume crazy men) are ANIMALS in the sack. Seriously, they can do things no one else can.

I also realize there's no way to have child support laws be fair. The only way to fix society is to move beyond the silly concept of money for needs. Wants, we still need money. But food, medicine, shelter? With modern technology the basics should be free or available for token four hours of service to the community per day.

I think the system could be a lot more fair, to be perfectly honest. Maybe we can't reach a perfect solution everyone will agree is fair - but we could get closer.


Spartan Style universal education? You have a kid? Ages 7-15 the state owns him or her. They might die, but if they graduate they will be men, even if they're women.
 
2011-11-10 05:09:30 AM  
An article in the Daily Fail that interviews four men about their ex-wives/girlfriends? Yeah - this looks totally balanced.

Lets see what we have:

A guy who describes himself as a serial-dater who has unprotected sex with women he's in casual relationships with is shocked! SHOCKED! to find he's fathered a child.

A guy who recounts a 14 year old story about his short term girlfriend, ending with the mention that he felt nothing for his child when it was born, and now gripes about having to pay 85quid a week in child support.

A guy who was adamant he didn't want any more kids but not adamant enough to get a vasectomy, and we only get his version of events.

A guy who in the middle of the 80's had unprotected sex with a woman he just met and was later shocked to find he'd fathered a child.

Aside from the married guy, and even then we're only getting one side of the story, I have a hard time feeling any sympathy for any of these guys.
 
2011-11-10 05:12:44 AM  
Look, as a man, you basically go into any sexual encounter knowing that there is a chance the chick could get pregnant (Unless you have a vasectomy or something). Condoms break, pills don't work, IUDs dislodge, tubes come untied, women impregnate themselves, etc. You know you're not going to be able to stop or influence an abortion. You know you'll have very little choice in custody or child support.

You know these things. And still you act surprised. If you don't want kids, don't take the risk.
 
2011-11-10 05:26:32 AM  

Rik01: I never particularly wanted kids. Growing up, I had a younger brother and sister and a niece and I got to observe all of the 'FUN' involved. Like babies are essentially poop machines for the first year of their lives and have a screaming cry that seems designed to attract every predator in the area -- unlike animal babies. Not to mention that the cry seems also designed to pi$$ off every other person in the vicinity. Then the periodic feedings every few hours in the night when you have to get up at 5 to go to work. The frequent trips to the Dr. The mess when trying to feed it solid food.

I have no idea why an infant will suddenly and unexpectedly barf anywhere at any time without the slightest indication that it might do so. Usually, on your suit.

With a family of 4 kids, I got to observe the drama, the trips to the Dr., the occasional trips to the ER, the worry of Mom and Dad if one or more got sick. The squabbles (many of which I was involved in) between the kids and when the teens came about, parents started developing gray hair.

By the time I was working my arse off, the concept of getting up every few hours with the wife to tend to the kid took on the image of prolonged torture. Plus, I'd been around enough pregnant women to know that they seem to become temporarily schizophrenic. Damned if you do and damned if you don't. (Each time my Mom got pregnant, my Dad developed a sudden interest in working out in the yard for long periods of time.)

Working in medicine at the time, I got a real good education about pregnancy, child birth, child care and the massive amount of prenatal and post-birth problems that could not only happen but which could basically bankrupt the suffering parents or split them up.

I decided not to have kids.

However, a g/f of mine, years later, was determined to have one, whether I agreed or not. I had to buy a pile of contraceptives and make sure they were used before sex and she STILL managed to get me a few times unprotected. Even though I was assured I'd not have any responsibility for any baby, I didn't believe her, especially when she started dropping hints about marriage.

Well, she got knocked up and supposedly not by me. (She cheated.) That ended the relationship quickly. I suspect the kid is mine, but, honestly, I don't want anything to do with him. Besides, she married the 'father', who, interestingly enough, doesn't resemble the kid.

I mean, I don't find any reason to be attracted to a child of mine (if any) when I didn't want one in the first place. I don't feel any duty to be in the kid's life even if he is mine. People seem to consider that as callous, but I'm not the only one who feels this way. I certainly don't want to pay child support for a kid I did not want.

I find the trend of suing anonymous sperm donors for support of kids born from their sperm both disturbing and somehow illegal.

In my time, I changed enough diapers, handled messy kids, fished the suicidal little bastiges out of harms way many times and got appalled at the gross stupidity -- something animals seem to lack -- and put up with enough hours of screaming and crying to last me for a life time.

But, yeah. I've been aware of women tricking men into having babies for decades now. Usually the poor SOBs wind up getting dragged into child support for something they didn't want in the first place.

I don't even like to be around other people's kids until they're about 4 years old and have developed a bit of common sense and people skills.

(Your 3 year old, leaning over the back of a diner seat, yapping at me, grinning, bubbling, whining, talking at the top of his lungs while I'm trying to enjoy my meal risks getting his head turned around by 180 degrees.)

BTW. Don't expect me to coo and admire your infant in that huge baby carriage either. Most, IMO, look like fat little demons, others look like funny monkeys and some are just butt ugly.


Get a vasectomy if you're that sure that you don't want kids.
Even so, vasectomies are reversible.
 
2011-11-10 05:33:04 AM  

gadian: You know these things. And still you act surprised. If you don't want kids, don't take the risk.


Interesting how that same argument works equally well against the abortion right. Women know all the consequences of pregnancy when they have sex. And they still act surprised. If you don't want to have a baby, don't take the risk.
 
2011-11-10 05:34:04 AM  
I think I would feel sorry for the child... nobody who would do that should actually raise something. Well, maybe a plant.
 
2011-11-10 05:46:45 AM  
If women get the "choice" to have a kid or not, then men should have the choice to pay for it.
 
2011-11-10 05:48:53 AM  
Guys- never trust "I'm on the pill". Even when used properly, sometimes they just don't work. I have a 15 year old son to prove it. After that little surprise, I had the doctor rip out my tubes, throw them in the floor, and stomp on them.
 
2011-11-10 05:52:01 AM  

Mock26: Three Four choices:

1. Do not have sex.
2. Use protection.
3. Get sterilized.
4. s3.amazonaws.com

Only two three of these are really fool proof.


/FTFY
 
2011-11-10 05:53:21 AM  

itazurakko: I wonder how this compares to the number of kids conceived via rape?


That's a completely different argument, totally unrelated to this thread, so who cares? Unless you're saying that guys who are tricked into fatherhood deserve it because they're of the same gender as rapists who impregnate women?
 
2011-11-10 05:56:21 AM  
I know how these guys feel, women sense my power and they seek the life essence. I first became aware of it, during the physical act of love. I would feel a profound sense of fatigue. Aa feeling of emptiness followed, luckily I was able to interpret these feelings correctly, loss of essence.
 
2011-11-10 05:57:14 AM  

miss diminutive: FTA:When, 14 years ago, his girlfriend of just a few weeks announced her pregnancy, the news was coupled with an astonishing admission: she claimed to have impregnated herself using a condom that they had discarded after sex.

Stories like this just reinforce the fact that men should have a contraceptive pill.

So you suspect you're banging a psycho hose-beast who'll dig a used condom out of the trash to steal your little fecundal soldiers? Pop a pill and fark worry-free!


Here here, I heard there's progress on such a thing and it would have been a wonderful asset back in my youth.

/not a babby daddy
//that I know of
///instain mother!
 
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