INB4 farkin'...

If they didn't want their cremated limbs to end up in landfills, they should have studied harder and worked harder in high school so that they would have had options other than going into the military.

I was all prepared to get angry, and then I read it was a portion of the incinerated, cremated remains. Basically... dust.

I'm sorry, but I'm not going to get up in arms about what we do with carbon-based dust.

xl5150: If they didn't want their cremated limbs to end up in landfills, they should have studied harder and worked harder in high school so that they would have had options other than going into the military.

To think you actually pay someone to be a troll...

The Dover Air Force Base mortuary for years disposed of portions of troops' remains by cremating them and dumping the ashes in a Virginia landfill, a practice that officials have since abandoned in favor of burial at sea.

So, I fail to see the problem, peeps. The dead soldiers are d-e-a-d. They are body parts; you know parts is parts. (new window)

SnakeLee: engaged in the practice from 2003 to 2008

Just so we're all clear

crystal

that's kinda shiatty

besides the obvious things that are wrong with this, what bugs me is that not one person will lose their job over this.

The man is dead; his remains are nothing but fertilizer. Who cares where they wind up?

More of the Hope&Change(tm) we were promised?

If you as a family member can't be farked to come down to the office and pick up your kin's ashes, what do you expect me to do with it ?

This text is now purple: I was all prepared to get angry, and then I read it was a portion of the incinerated, cremated remains. Basically... dust.

I'm sorry, but I'm not going to get up in arms about what we do with carbon-based dust.

I thought that way too, but if it was the remains of your significant other who you fell in love with, married, then waited for months to return to find out they died from a IED? I'd be kinda pissed if I found out part of him was burnt and thrown into a trash heap. Call me weird for that, but I can understand the anger.

Oh, and I find the whole practice to be unconscionable. Folks need to burn (pardon the pun) for this one. Maybe be thrown into a landfill when they're done, eh? :\

Just kidding, I don't wish that on anyone.

It's all about customs, which change.

What about the not-so-brave war dead?

AlecRazec: This text is now purple: I was all prepared to get angry, and then I read it was a portion of the incinerated, cremated remains. Basically... dust.

I'm sorry, but I'm not going to get up in arms about what we do with carbon-based dust.

I thought that way too, but if it was the remains of your significant other who you fell in love with, married, then waited for months to return to find out they died from a IED? I'd be kinda pissed if I found out part of him was burnt and thrown into a trash heap. Call me weird for that, but I can understand the anger.

Oh, and I find the whole practice to be unconscionable. Folks need to burn (pardon the pun) for this one. Maybe be thrown into a landfill when they're done, eh? :\

Just kidding, I don't wish that on anyone.

The article says that it was only the remains that the families didn't want and gave the militery permission to dispose of. If the families didn't want them then who cares.

"They knew what they were getting into when they bought their tickets....

I say,'LET 'EM CRASH!'"

ArcadianRefugee: The man is dead; his remains are nothing but fertilizer. Who cares where they wind up?

His family?

RandomExcess: More of the Hope&Change(tm) we were promised?

Looks like someone didn't read.

You can judge the greatness of a nation by how well its heroes fatten the carrion eaters.

America is a glorious country indeed.

War is hell_tm

/may lack of surprise should make people sad but no, it doesn't

RandomExcess: More of the Hope&Change(tm) we were promised?

This is, without a doubt, Bush's fault.

RandomExcess: More of the Hope&Change(tm) we were promised?

The Dover, Del., mortuary, the main point of entry for the nation's war dead and the target of federal investigations of alleged mishandling of remains, engaged in the practice from 2003 to 2008, according to Air Force officials.

I mean I'm all for mocking the hope and change thing, but give credit/blame where it's due.

Apparently the Fark community will believe in superstitious burial rituals concerning calcium phosphate when it's politically convenient.

What a credible bunch you all are.

you know who else cremated remains and had bones left over?

Don't waste good compost

Could have given them the hero's treatment and flushed them down Patton's toilet...



/Veteran

RandomExcess: More of the Hope&Change(tm) we were promised?

It's amazing nobody pointed out how wrong you are for blaming this on Hope&Change®

RandomExcess: More of the Hope&Change(tm) we were promised?

Did someone point out how wrong this guy is? Anyone?

RandomExcess: More of the Hope&Change(tm) we were promised?


Has anyone made a facetious remark feigning ignorance of the number of people who have pointed out how dumb this obvious troll post is?

/DWOWWWWWWWWEEEEEEOOWWWW
//^Heavy Meta power chord

It's not as if they were important people like Job Creators (tm)

Isildur: RandomExcess: More of the Hope&Change(tm) we were promised?


Has anyone made a facetious remark feigning ignorance of the number of people who have pointed out how dumb this obvious troll post is?

/DWOWWWWWWWWEEEEEEOOWWWW
//^Heavy Meta power chord

Nope, you're the first.

/twang
//banjo chord

Hrmmm. I'm of two minds of this whole issue. First, would I want to be disposed of in this way? Frankly, yes. I don't care what is done with my wasted shell after I slough it. Don't reserve a little patch of ground that nobody can ever use again just for a place to leave my name on a stone.

But then, funerals and burial plots aren't really for the dead, are they? No, they're for the grieving loved ones left behind, things they can use to cope with the recent loss. Those things are there for the living, and not so much the dead.

So I guess what I'm saying is, I think what this article is saying is someone needs to be added to the who-needs-a-cockpunch list.

xl5150: If they didn't want their cremated limbs to end up in landfills, they should have studied harder and worked harder in high school so that they would have had options other than going into the military.

Like camping out in Zuccotti Park?

It's funny (not haha funny) how we seem to care more about the unborn and dead than the living.

These were body parts that were unidentifiable or later recovered. Cremating and then depositing them makes sense.

If you have a finger, or even a piece of a finger that can't be identified, should they go through the hoopla of it all? It's not like they gave them to wild dogs.

As long as they didn't do this to whole bodies, which did get the respect and service one expects for the war dead, then I don't see the big deal.

Adonis DNA: Isildur: RandomExcess: More of the Hope&Change(tm) we were promised?


Has anyone made a facetious remark feigning ignorance of the number of people who have pointed out how dumb this obvious troll post is?

/DWOWWWWWWWWEEEEEEOOWWWW
//^Heavy Meta power chord

Nope, you're the first.

/twang
//banjo chord


No, my post was the one post in which a person feigned ignorance of the number of people (two -- you and Fluidmachine) who had thus far feigned ignorance of the number of people (five) who had thus far countered RandomExcess's post.

/One post to reply to them all, one post to frame them. One post to relate them all, and in the recursion tame them.
//In the land of Fark, where sad trolls lie.

Those of you excusing this practice because "well, the relatives said it was OK", didn't read TFA very closely, did you? The body parts/remains weren't cremated until after they reached Dover AFB, and in at least one case they sawed off and disposed of the arm of a soldier because it wouldn't fit in the coffin. ISTM that destroying these remains in such a cavalier fashion flies in the face of the comments made by the administration and military leaders of that time (2003-2008), who claimed they honored all the soldiers that died in their little wars.

/what a way to honor the dead
//dump them in a landfill
///isn't there an 'unknown soldier' burial site?

Frank Reynolds unavailable for comment.

As a military wife, I can certainly understand how the survivors would feel about finding out part of their loved one was just tossed in the trash. And in general, it's just a shiatty way to deal with what was once a person, one who died in the line of duty. Even if they didn't switch to a burial at sea, they could have at least had a memorial field set aside for those remains where they could be buried or scattered.

Myself? Should the unthinkable ever happen, I hope they at least bring back enough to cremate so I can have some of his cremains pressed into a diamond to replace a stone in my wedding ring. If they found anything else after that, I would hope they'd treat them with some level of respect.

Isildur: Adonis DNA: Isildur: RandomExcess: More of the Hope&Change(tm) we were promised?


Has anyone made a facetious remark feigning ignorance of the number of people who have pointed out how dumb this obvious troll post is?

/DWOWWWWWWWWEEEEEEOOWWWW
//^Heavy Meta power chord

Nope, you're the first.

/twang
//banjo chord


No, my post was the one post in which a person feigned ignorance of the number of people (two -- you and Fluidmachine) who had thus far feigned ignorance of the number of people (five) who had thus far countered RandomExcess's post.

/One post to reply to them all, one post to frame them. One post to relate them all, and in the recursion tame them.
//In the land of Fark, where sad trolls lie.

Who's feigning? And what's this poppycock about trolls lying?

/something something all Gandalf-like.
//except not that nerdy