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(Wired) Scary If it is legal for the Feds to track you with a GPS then it should be legal to film the Feds putting the GPS tracker under your car. Right?   (wired.com) divider line 239
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2011-11-09 06:33:54 PM
What happens if you put it in the microwave?
 
2011-11-09 10:37:06 PM
It would be funny to report it to the police as a possible bomb, watch em scramble and make a big deal about it, make the news.

/except the bomb squad yahoos would probably just blow it up
//and the FBI wouldn't pay to replace the car
 
2011-11-09 10:44:28 PM
It'd be funny to put it on all kinds of different vehicles. A cop car, a cab, an FBI unit...
 
2011-11-10 12:06:06 AM
dstanley: It'd be funny to put it on all kinds of different vehicles. A cop car, a cab, an FBI unit...

Private Airplane.
 
DAR [TotalFark]
2011-11-10 12:45:27 AM
what the hell, didn't the guy have a smart GPS phone like the rest of us for the Feds to track.....
 
2011-11-10 01:15:10 AM
Sure, why not? Only someone who's breaking the law in the first place would have to be worried. If you have nothing to hide, then you have nothing to worry about.
 
2011-11-10 01:35:38 AM
xl5150: Sure, why not? Only someone who's breaking the law in the first place would have to be worried. If you have nothing to hide, then you have nothing to worry about.

Alternatively:

Cop: Can I search your car?
Citizen: I don't think you need to. Unless you're doing something wrong there's nothing to worry about in my car.
 
2011-11-10 02:53:37 AM
xl5150: Sure, why not? Only someone who's breaking the law in the first place would have to be worried. If you have nothing to hide, then you have nothing to worry about.

How do you feel about big government?
 
2011-11-10 03:21:00 AM
I would tie it to a balloon and send it into orbit. If I ever found it again, I'd fedex it to the Whitehouse.
 
2011-11-10 03:24:01 AM
Or...

I would take it with me on an adventure. First I'd go skydiving, then I'd ride a few roller coasters, etc...

I would find some awesome stuff to do with it. When I got bored with that, I'd just fedex it back and forth between two places. At least they'd get some good tracking data on a fedex truck, and I'm pretty sure you would need a warrant to open my mail.
 
2011-11-10 04:22:31 AM
haemaker: dstanley: It'd be funny to put it on all kinds of different vehicles. A cop car, a cab, an FBI unit...

Private Airplane.


I was thinking cross-country bus or maybe a freight train.
 
2011-11-10 06:21:40 AM
Mail it back to the FBI....I found this....thought you might want it back?
Alternatively, you could cover it in poo, then encase it and throw it in the river/ocean.
 
2011-11-10 06:22:08 AM
I'm on board with the helium balloons idea. Or if you were worried that might be illegal, drop it on the road and run it over a few times. Oops, guess the magnet came unstuck when you went over a pothole...
 
2011-11-10 06:29:42 AM
Put it on a car with diplomatic plates. China, Pakistan, or Israel would do nicely.

/Be sure to have a better lawyer if you do this.
 
2011-11-10 06:35:54 AM
This is for your own good. Do not resist this.

Oh-! Oh-!! He's resisting, he's resisting! TASE HIM, BRO!!!
 
2011-11-10 06:36:56 AM
xl5150: Sure, why not? Only someone who's breaking the law in the first place would have to be worried. If you have nothing to hide, then you have nothing to worry about.

So tell me, how do you get that "Cop Jizz" taste out of your mouth every week?
 
2011-11-10 06:37:36 AM
The message these days, from government and uncaring corporations (not all, just some) is "We do what we want." We need to show them that's not true.

/Walking the talk myself, currently, against a giant company (several, actually, and the government), and bringing the rest of the community, as much as humanly possible, with me.
//Go ahead and tase me, bro.
 
2011-11-10 06:38:29 AM
Well, it has nothing marking it as government property, it's on your property...

Tell me why you can't just take it off the vehicle, cut it open and nick any interesting parts?

Or hell, start building a GPS Tracker Fortress on the kitchen table, for that matter.
 
2011-11-10 06:39:05 AM
I'd say ebay that biatch. If the feds try to tell you to stop because it's their property, then they can prove it and explain how it got where it did.
 
2011-11-10 06:39:30 AM
Cubansaltyballs: Or...

I would take it with me on an adventure. First I'd go skydiving, then I'd ride a few roller coasters, etc...

I would find some awesome stuff to do with it. When I got bored with that, I'd just fedex it back and forth between two places to Afghanistan. At least they'd get some good tracking data on a fedex truck, and I'm pretty sure you would need a warrant to open my mail.


Now you're talking. I admire the cut of your jib and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
 
2011-11-10 06:40:44 AM
Slapping something on someone's car without a warrant is an unreasonable search of private property. Until they perfect those little robot dragonflies to track people in public, this kind of surveillance should be unconstitutional.
 
2011-11-10 06:42:11 AM
Karac: I'd say ebay that biatch.

Nah, just mail it to Nome.
 
2011-11-10 06:44:18 AM
Oh, better yet, drive to the local drug corner and give it to your local dealer. When the cops ask you why you gave their tech to someone who'll just figure out a way to get around it, then you can say, "Well, you wanted to track drug dealers, so I thought I'd give you a hand".
 
2011-11-10 06:45:09 AM
What would I do with it? Well, I'd like to find out if it will Blend! (new window)
 
2011-11-10 06:46:47 AM
SDRR: Cubansaltyballs: Or...

I would take it with me on an adventure. First I'd go skydiving, then I'd ride a few roller coasters, etc...

I would find some awesome stuff to do with it. When I got bored with that, I'd just fedex it back and forth between two places to Afghanistan to Russia, China, Israel, Philippines and then motherfarking NASTY Ohio. At least they'd get some good tracking data on a fedex truck, and I'm pretty sure you would need a warrant to open my mail.

Now you're talking. I admire the cut of your jib and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
 
2011-11-10 06:47:39 AM
PsiChi: The message these days, from government and uncaring corporations (not all, just some) is "We do what we want." We need to show them that's not true.

/Walking the talk myself, currently, against a giant company (several, actually, and the government), and bringing the rest of the community, as much as humanly possible, with me.
//Go ahead and tase me, bro.


how so?
 
2011-11-10 06:50:57 AM
Humorous-Name: Well, it has nothing marking it as government property, it's on your property...

Tell me why you can't just take it off the vehicle, cut it open and nick any interesting parts?

Or hell, start building a GPS Tracker Fortress on the kitchen table, for that matter.


Ignorance is not a reliable defense against the prison industry.
 
2011-11-10 06:54:49 AM
Stick it in a shiatty place:

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2011-11-10 06:55:28 AM
You don't really want to mess with these bastids in the government. They can pretty much do what they want as long as they don't get caught. Based on experience. Be very afraid people; we are headed further and further into a place most free thinking people don't want to experience.
 
2011-11-10 06:56:53 AM
Return it to the store it came from. $430 without the battery. Local army surplus store would probably give you a good price. Or get yourself on "Pawn Stars".
 
2011-11-10 06:58:50 AM
I'd just stick it on someone else's car randomly, preferably one from out of state. That, or leave it in the middle of the road to get run over a couple hundred times.
 
2011-11-10 07:02:17 AM
doyner: xl5150: Sure, why not? Only someone who's breaking the law in the first place would have to be worried. If you have nothing to hide, then you have nothing to worry about.

How do you feel about big government?


Not to worry. They only care about tracking poor people. Only poor people commit crimes anyway, amirite?
 
2011-11-10 07:02:35 AM
Bendal: I'd just stick it on someone else's car randomly, preferably one from out of state. That, or leave it in the middle of the road to get run over a couple hundred times.

This one. Just drive to the nearest rest stop and tack it onto the underside of some random big rig.
 
2011-11-10 07:03:32 AM
Close2TheEdge: Not to worry. They only care about tracking poor people. Only poor people commit crimes anyway, amirite?

Not poor people, brown people.
 
2011-11-10 07:03:34 AM
So, why does a man who drives a Volvo live with his girlfriend's parents?

/put the tracker on a bus headed for San Clemente.
 
2011-11-10 07:03:49 AM
"Greg wanted to know what he should do with the device."

Take it to a truck stop, throw it on top of a trailer.
 
2011-11-10 07:04:53 AM
Bendal: I'd just stick it on someone else's car randomly, preferably one from out of state. That, or leave it in the middle of the road to get run over a couple hundred times.

They'd probably charge you with tampering with another persons car or theft/destruction of government property.
 
2011-11-10 07:05:24 AM
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think it'd be fun to put it on a school bus. Or, if you live in a city with public transport, put it on a public vehicle running a route. An elevated train would be an excellent option as well.
 
2011-11-10 07:06:46 AM
These are some nice civil liberties you've got here. Shame if anything should happen to them.
 
2011-11-10 07:16:55 AM
Kind of a double edged sword. It's not like tapping a phone. Tracking someone with a gps device is no different than following them around. It's surveillance, just more efficient. No one likes to think that they are being followed or tracked. The crooks don't like it for obvious reasons, and we as law abiding citizens don't like it because we feel it is an invasion of our privacy. The truth is that no one is interested in tracking 99.999999999999 percent of us and this has absolutely no effect on us EXCEPT that it is a very valuable tool for law enforcement to use to catch crooks and take a few extra criminals off the street. It actually helps us and has no adverse effect on us yet we still biatch because of some perceived nonexistent invasion of our privacy. So let's summarize:

1. It helps to catch criminals and most importantly track potential terrorists (Still criminals but we hate them more than normal murderers)
2. The U.S. Government doesn't give a rats azz about tracking you and I (unless you are one of the above mentioned criminal/terrorists)
3. It's cheaper than tailing someone and much more effective and IT IS NOT A SEARCH!
4. Sure it can be abused, but not nearly as ofter as the gun, night stick or taser that they carry.
5. American's like to biatch about nothing.
6. Did I miss anything?
 
2011-11-10 07:18:25 AM
Terrydatroll: [Troll attempt]

Not bad. You might bet some hits. Although, your name kind of tips people off.
 
2011-11-10 07:19:32 AM
Terrydatroll: Kind of a double edged sword. It's not like tapping a phone. Tracking someone with a gps device is no different than following them around. It's surveillance, just more efficient. No one likes to think that they are being followed or tracked. The crooks don't like it for obvious reasons, and we as law abiding citizens don't like it because we feel it is an invasion of our privacy. The truth is that no one is interested in tracking 99.999999999999 percent of us and this has absolutely no effect on us EXCEPT that it is a very valuable tool for law enforcement to use to catch crooks and take a few extra criminals off the street. It actually helps us and has no adverse effect on us yet we still biatch because of some perceived nonexistent invasion of our privacy. So let's summarize:

1. It helps to catch criminals and most importantly track potential terrorists (Still criminals but we hate them more than normal murderers)
2. The U.S. Government doesn't give a rats azz about tracking you and I (unless you are one of the above mentioned criminal/terrorists)
3. It's cheaper than tailing someone and much more effective and IT IS NOT A SEARCH!
4. Sure it can be abused, but not nearly as ofter as the gun, night stick or taser that they carry.
5. American's like to biatch about nothing.
6. Did I miss anything?


Meh. 2/10
 
2011-11-10 07:20:39 AM
Satanic_Hamster: Bendal: I'd just stick it on someone else's car randomly, preferably one from out of state. That, or leave it in the middle of the road to get run over a couple hundred times.

They'd probably charge you with tampering with another persons car or theft/destruction of government property.


I'd drive to a place that doesn't have cell service, and then just remove it and leave it there. You didn't steal it, you found it on your car, something that doesn't belong, and you got rid of it. You didn't *DO* anything to it, other than remove it from your property, so you haven't tampered with it.

Alternatively, you could just leave it in place, and wrap it up in aluminum foil. These things require that the antennas can "see" the GPS satellites, and that they can transmit to cell towers. If you block that signal with metal, like aluminum foil, they don't work.
 
2011-11-10 07:20:59 AM
And why the hell can I not use biatch in a sentence, biatch means the same God damn thing. Has Fark become that farking politically correct? Good God. I typed biatch and they changed it to biatch. Just wow.
 
2011-11-10 07:21:04 AM
DarnoKonrad: Slapping something on someone's car without a warrant is an unreasonable search of private property. Until they perfect those little robot dragonflies to track people in public, this kind of surveillance should be unconstitutional.

The issue is currently before the Supreme Court.

If you want a hint of the way the ruling is going to to: The FBI stated that they have thousands of GPS tracking devices in operation, and that State and Local government have their own tracking programs. Out of all the thousands of people who have been tracked the case they decided to let go to the Supreme Court involves a guy who was caught with 100 kilos of Cocaine.

It's not looking good for the 4th Amendment.
 
2011-11-10 07:22:06 AM
biatch biatch biatch. I can say God Damn, but I can't say biatch.
 
2011-11-10 07:23:29 AM
basemetal: It would be funny to report it to the police as a possible bomb, watch em scramble and make a big deal about it, make the news.

/except the bomb squad yahoos would probably just blow it up
//and the FBI wouldn't pay to replace the car


That's what insurance is for.
Imagine the fun they'll have trying to reassemble the pieces and figure out who made the "bomb". That by itself should tie up a dozen investigators.

Maximizing their paperwork would minimize the desire to use such devices in the first place.
 
2011-11-10 07:23:51 AM
"B" farking "I" farking "T" farking "C" farking "H".
 
2011-11-10 07:23:51 AM
Such an intimidating police presence for a single drug dealer. They alternated between using 5 or 6 cops to follow a single guy in just this one instance. Who might be related to a drug dealer who fled.

What is a rough average rate of pay per hour for a cop in a town this size? I also wonder how many cops overall they assign to just one dealer. And theyve been following this cousin of a drug dealer for months. They even follow him into public areas and sneer at his guests apparently.

Dozen to hundreds of man hours, on a single guy, wasting thousands of dollars. With no result. And you know this is happening all day everyday. I'm glad the system works so efficiently and sleep soundly knowing my tax dollars are put to good use.
 
2011-11-10 07:24:13 AM
Terrydatroll: Kind of a double edged sword. It's not like tapping a phone. Tracking someone with a gps device is no different than following them around. It's surveillance, just more efficient. No one likes to think that they are being followed or tracked. The crooks don't like it for obvious reasons, and we as law abiding citizens don't like it because we feel it is an invasion of our privacy. The truth is that no one is interested in tracking 99.999999999999 percent of us and this has absolutely no effect on us EXCEPT that it is a very valuable tool for law enforcement to use to catch crooks and take a few extra criminals off the street. It actually helps us and has no adverse effect on us yet we still biatch because of some perceived nonexistent invasion of our privacy. So let's summarize:

1. It helps to catch criminals and most importantly track potential terrorists (Still criminals but we hate them more than normal murderers)
2. The U.S. Government doesn't give a rats azz about tracking you and I (unless you are one of the above mentioned criminal/terrorists)
3. It's cheaper than tailing someone and much more effective and IT IS NOT A SEARCH!
4. Sure it can be abused, but not nearly as ofter as the gun, night stick or taser that they carry.
5. American's like to biatch about nothing.
6. Did I miss anything?


I don't know if I've just been hooked, but here goes.

It is different than just following you. If the cops put a tail on you, or watch your house, they have attached NOTHING to your property. If they do a magnet attached GPS, they are modifying your property. Would it be ok to attach a microphone to the outside of your house? Or use one of those parabolic microphones from across the street without a warrant?
 
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