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2011-11-09 06:32:38 PM
I, for one, am looking forward to murdering my climate warming denying Conservative neighbors in cold blood for what little food and few valuables they may have as society collapses around us.
 
2011-11-09 06:35:10 PM
I think it's hilarious that they propose to have a precision measurement of something that will affect us over a geological time scale.
 
2011-11-09 06:43:06 PM
www.neverlosethehat.com


Yeah yeah yeah, we've heard it all before.
 
2011-11-09 07:02:30 PM
Change the combination on my luggage!
 
2011-11-09 07:34:23 PM
like my raincoat

Yes, it's quite dapper. But that's not important right now. We're talking about climate change.
 
2011-11-09 07:48:32 PM
I dunno. We could plant some trees gobble up that stuff we exhale.
 
2011-11-09 09:21:25 PM
The climate is always changing, ergo 'climate change' is already irreversible. QED
 
2011-11-09 09:56:37 PM
impaler: The climate is always changing, ergo 'climate change' is already irreversible. QED

Latin predates Jesus. We're farked..
 
2011-11-09 10:07:19 PM
Republicans are still allowed to be elected in this country. So that won't happen. Catastrophic climate change is inevitable.
 
2011-11-09 10:40:35 PM
10 years ago Al Gore told us we would be underwater in 10 years. 20 years ago Ted Dansen told us that the oceans only had 10 years before they would all die.

40 years ago, we were told we would all be icicles by now because of the coming ice age.

I wish scientists were better at predicting the weather than the weathermen on TV.
 
2011-11-09 11:27:01 PM
I gotta tell you, as a Canadian, I'd truthfully not mind one bit if global warming heated things up enough that I never see a winter where I live with temperatures of less than 15c.

fark the rest of you guys, I'm sick of the cold.
 
2011-11-09 11:45:48 PM
Coelacanth: I, for one, am looking forward to murdering my climate warming denying Conservative neighbors in cold blood for what little food and few valuables they may have as society collapses around us.

But are you prepared to cannibalize them? My challenge to climate change deniers: if you're wrong, you're going to be the first ones eaten!
 
2011-11-10 12:17:15 AM
djkutch: I dunno. We could plant some trees gobble up that stuff we exhale.

Might take a bit more than that. However, I'm confident a limited nuclear exchange would offset the warming effect, and that becomes increasingly likely once the climate effects reach the point of increasing geopolitical instability. Negative feedback loop, tending to stability, and probably a human population in at least the six digit range.

EnviroDude: I wish scientists were better at predicting the weather than the weathermen on TV.

Perhaps if you weren't listening to the popular press distortions, and actually read the primary reports in the journals?
 
2011-11-10 12:49:58 AM
EnviroDude: 40 years ago, we were told we would all be icicles by now because of the coming ice age.

Yet the scientists forgot to write about it.

Derp!

books.google.com
 
2011-11-10 12:51:43 AM
EnviroDude: I wish scientists were better at predicting the weather than the weathermen on TV.

Weathermen (meteorologists) are scientists you ignorant fark.
 
2011-11-10 12:54:57 AM
Sorry, somehow a space got in the google ngram viewer url in my last post (fark mispost, with fark's random 'add space' to typed URL thingy). Here's the actual graph. Not that there's much of a difference.

books.google.com
 
2011-11-10 01:09:14 AM
impaler: EnviroDude: I wish scientists were better at predicting the weather than the weathermen on TV.

Weathermen (meteorologists) are scientists you ignorant fark.


It's so cute that you think that.

Is wrestling real to you too?

/some weathermen are actual scientists
//most just read the weather
 
2011-11-10 01:12:35 AM
Asa Phelps: /some weathermen are actual scientists
//most just read the weather


Written by meteorologists.

/who are trying to predict a system that's sensitively dependent upon initial condition, which is impossible, but I digress.
 
2011-11-10 01:41:29 AM
impaler: Sorry, somehow a space got in the google ngram viewer url in my last post (fark mispost, with fark's random 'add space' to typed URL thingy). Here's the actual graph. Not that there's much of a difference.

[books.google.com image 640x234]


What's that axis on the left supposed to represent?
 
2011-11-10 01:46:44 AM
If we'd run out of oil in 2000, like they predicted 40 years ago, we wouldn't have this problem!
 
2011-11-10 01:50:15 AM
Climate change was irreversible the minute we started having an atmosphere
 
2011-11-10 01:52:54 AM
wall of green bullshiat in 3, 2, 1....
 
2011-11-10 01:59:29 AM
Talon: impaler: Sorry, somehow a space got in the google ngram viewer url in my last post (fark mispost, with fark's random 'add space' to typed URL thingy). Here's the actual graph. Not that there's much of a difference.

[books.google.com image 640x234]

What's that axis on the left supposed to represent?


The rate the phrase is used in books. I'm not entirely certain how it is measured though.
 
2011-11-10 02:00:03 AM
Don't worry... peak oil is in a few months so we got this.

Climate change has been "irreversible after the next five years" for most of my life.
 
2011-11-10 02:09:15 AM
bingethinker: If we'd run out of oil in 2000, like they predicted 40 years ago, we wouldn't have this problem!

uhhh, we did run out of oil in 2000.

it is just that since we ran out of food in 1998, we have been too hungry to notice.
 
2011-11-10 02:10:07 AM
impaler: Yet the scientists forgot to write about it.

Derp!


Stop replying to the obvious troll
 
2011-11-10 02:39:28 AM
Britney Spear's Speculum: impaler: Yet the scientists forgot to write about it.

Derp!

Stop replying to the obvious troll


When you can arse-rape a popular held bullshat talking point with one graph, do it. No matter how obvious the troll's trolling is.
 
2011-11-10 02:50:48 AM
AdolfOliverPanties: [www.neverlosethehat.com image 250x254]


Yeah yeah yeah, we've heard it all before.


I will now watch this film, as I have not seen it in some time.
 
2011-11-10 02:57:01 AM
abb3w: djkutch: I dunno. We could plant some trees gobble up that stuff we exhale.

Might take a bit more than that. However, I'm confident a limited nuclear exchange would offset the warming effect, and that becomes increasingly likely once the climate effects reach the point of increasing geopolitical instability. Negative feedback loop, tending to stability, and probably a human population in at least the six digit range.


Then the Israeli/Iran war is going to be a good thing then? Should be some nuke action.
 
2011-11-10 04:04:51 AM
If you think hot is bad, wait until you try cold.
 
2011-11-10 04:16:27 AM
Newsguy wept and told us, Earth was really dying...

Cried so much his face was wet, then I knew he was not lying...
 
2011-11-10 04:37:55 AM
Does this mean in five years we'll stop having to listen to the climate alarmists whining about it? Oh good.
 
2011-11-10 04:38:26 AM
EnviroDude: 10 years ago Al Gore told us we would be underwater in 10 years. 20 years ago Ted Dansen told us that the oceans only had 10 years before they would all die.

40 years ago, we were told we would all be icicles by now because of the coming ice age.

I wish scientists were better at predicting the weather than the weathermen on TV.


Perhaps you shouldn't be getting your science from Ted Dansen...
 
2011-11-10 05:05:11 AM
Slaxl: EnviroDude: 10 years ago Al Gore told us we would be underwater in 10 years. 20 years ago Ted Dansen told us that the oceans only had 10 years before they would all die.

40 years ago, we were told we would all be icicles by now because of the coming ice age.

I wish scientists were better at predicting the weather than the weathermen on TV.

Perhaps you shouldn't be getting your science from Ted Dansen...


Meh.....it was good enough for congress at the time.
 
2011-11-10 05:10:14 AM
Farxist: bingethinker: If we'd run out of oil in 2000, like they predicted 40 years ago, we wouldn't have this problem!

uhhh, we did run out of oil in 2000.

it is just that since we ran out of food in 1998, we have been too hungry to notice.


I remember some of the tv ads from when I was a kid in the 70's. Having said that I do own shares in BP, Exxon, Kraft, and Coca Cola. All in the timing.
 
2011-11-10 05:26:22 AM
impaler: EnviroDude: 40 years ago, we were told we would all be icicles by now because of the coming ice age.

Yet the scientists forgot to write about it.

Derp!

[books.google.com image 640x234]


The disadvantage of being young is that you were not around when the "Coming Ice Age" was the rage of the day (new window)

This is from the era when Time Magazine, the NY Times and other news media were still trusted.
 
2011-11-10 05:59:03 AM
Farxist

bingethinker: If we'd run out of oil in 2000, like they predicted 40 years ago, we wouldn't have this problem!

uhhh, we did run out of oil in 2000.

it is just that since we ran out of food in 1998, we have been too hungry to notice.

I'm not hungry. I died in the worldwide plague of 2005.
 
2011-11-10 06:09:24 AM
Does this mean that in five years these idiots will stop yapping about how doomed we are?
 
2011-11-10 06:21:42 AM
Meh, I don't buy it.
Then again I've been a long time proponent for the terraformation of mars. So long as you have gravity and the manpower to accomplish something, there shouldn't be such a thing as irreversible.

Which makes me wonder how they came to this conclusion.
Is it irreversible as in "we can't ever fix it" or irreversible because "we can't fix it by driving electric cars and buying solar panels from the companies I've invested in"?
If you're going to do jack squat about putting the brakes on the problem because you're afraid of geo-engineering, then I think we've long past the point where nature can compensate for mankinds existence. Saying we're five years away sounds more like your making a sales pitch for your favorite political party.
Not like either one will do anything in the next decade besides pander for votes.

To that end tho, nature is pretty darn resilient and will fix everything in the following million years after we've driven ourselves extinct. So it doesn't really matter if we stop using oil or if everyone goes vegan. The planet isn't going to kill us for our sins by turning into Venus-earth overnight.

The question is if we're going to do anything about the perceived problem while we still have the technology and resources on hand. Which is more in the ballpark of a century or two.
 
2011-11-10 06:52:38 AM
way south: Meh, I don't buy it.
Then again I've been a long time proponent for the terraformation of mars. So long as you have gravity and the manpower to accomplish something, there shouldn't be such a thing as irreversible.

Which makes me wonder how they came to this conclusion.
Is it irreversible as in "we can't ever fix it" or irreversible because "we can't fix it by driving electric cars and buying solar panels from the companies I've invested in"?
If you're going to do jack squat about putting the brakes on the problem because you're afraid of geo-engineering, then I think we've long past the point where nature can compensate for mankinds existence. Saying we're five years away sounds more like your making a sales pitch for your favorite political party.
Not like either one will do anything in the next decade besides pander for votes.

To that end tho, nature is pretty darn resilient and will fix everything in the following million years after we've driven ourselves extinct. So it doesn't really matter if we stop using oil or if everyone goes vegan. The planet isn't going to kill us for our sins by turning into Venus-earth overnight.

The question is if we're going to do anything about the perceived problem while we still have the technology and resources on hand. Which is more in the ballpark of a century or two.


Sir... I'm going to have to ask you to stop having a reasonable and sensible opinion. This is fark, think of the children.
 
db2
2011-11-10 07:16:31 AM
So only five more years until I don't have to freeze my nuts off between November and April? I'll take what I can get, I guess.
 
2011-11-10 07:33:17 AM
Hasn't the climate of the Earth been in flux since the beginning of it's creation?
 
2011-11-10 07:34:56 AM
EnviroDude: The disadvantage of being young is that you were not around when the "Coming Ice Age" was the rage of the day (new window)

This is from the era when Time Magazine, the NY Times and other news media were still trusted.


The advantage of having an education is that you can tell the difference between peer-reviewed scientific papers and Time Magazine. Link
 
2011-11-10 07:38:23 AM
mpowelljr: Hasn't the climate of the Earth been in flux since the beginning of it's creation?

Watch out!
Packs of anthropogenic global warming meerkats will rip your flesh for that kind of rational thinking.
 
2011-11-10 07:39:56 AM
Sgt. Pepper: EnviroDude: The disadvantage of being young is that you were not around when the "Coming Ice Age" was the rage of the day (new window)

This is from the era when Time Magazine, the NY Times and other news media were still trusted.

The advantage of having an education is that you can tell the difference between peer-reviewed scientific papers and Time Magazine. Link


[He brandishes the Glorious Sword of Peer Review to bestow legitimacy!
Swoosh, swoosh!
Wow!]
 
2011-11-10 07:41:38 AM
Oh my.
To whom should I have my country send all of its money?
To whom should I send all of my money?

/Submitted this with a better headline.
//Peer review meerkats ripped my flesh.
 
2011-11-10 07:46:56 AM
mpowelljr: Hasn't the climate of the Earth been in flux since the beginning of it's creation?

And the Dodo had predators for centuries. I guess they died off naturally since no new variables were introduced to change that balance.
 
2011-11-10 07:53:39 AM
images.wikia.com
Raincoats?
 
2011-11-10 07:55:03 AM
Here we go.
But wait, there's more!

Check out this gem:

"One wonders how many more worrying figures the world needs," commented Connie Hedegaard, the European Union's climate commissioner.

The report "shows that the world is heading for a fossil-fuel lock-in. This is another urgent call to move to a low-carbon economy," she said in a statement.

Setting a global price on carbon, slashing fossil fuel subsidies, boosting renewable energy and energy efficiency and revised tax codes are all tools for achieving that end, she added.


Well gee-whiz. The world will end if we don't give them money.
Just like in 2008 when members of congress were told that martial law would be declared and the global economy would implode if the banks didn't get billions of dollars NOW. NOW!

/Disaster capitalism, how does it work?
//The Shock Doctrine, read it and learn.
///Mosin-Nagant is your friend.
////The most ironic part is that the meerkats of peer review don't realize they are playing right into this plan.
 
2011-11-10 07:55:45 AM
Asa Phelps: I think it's hilarious that they propose to have a precision measurement of something that will affect us over a geological time scale.

While the sun will impose warming over a geological time scale man will impose it over a human time scale.

impaler: The climate is always changing, ergo 'climate change' is already irreversible. QED

Yeah, the headline is bad. The article isn't, though.

way south: Meh, I don't buy it.
Then again I've been a long time proponent for the terraformation of mars. So long as you have gravity and the manpower to accomplish something, there shouldn't be such a thing as irreversible.


Irreversible in that we can't undo it before we cross the safety limits.

You're heading down the road at 80 mph. Suddenly you see a hairpin turn ahead. Of course you have the power to shed your velocity/change your direction but do you have the power to it before you run off the road???

/Gotta run, I won't be following this thread.
 
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