I think this building should be condemned. There's serious metal fatigue in all the load-bearing members, the wiring is substandard, it's completely inadequate for our power needs, and the neighborhood is like a demilitarized zone.

When you're sticking GPS trackers warrantlessly on people who look at you queer you're going to end up needing to expand your paranoid abuse of basic freedom and constitutional rights.

Is that a 13-star American flag?

If there was enough closet space for J. Edgar, there's enough closet space for anybody.

great line subby,.....

The museum in there is great if you can get a tour,....the st valentines day and bonnie and Clyde exhibits are nasty with old blood and that car is in there,..the one with 10k Bullitt holes in it....

shame its not public anymore.
/csb

They do have a vanity mirror, curling iron, hair clips, and some red bows in the Director's office though.

ZAZ: Article: Much of the problem stems from the agency's staff growth since the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks. Back then, 9,700 headquarters staffers worked at seven locations; now, about 17,300 employees and contractors work at 40 separate sites across the country, including 22 in the Washington area.


That's their problem: too many employees. It's clearly time to right-size some redundant personnel. I call for massive layoffs!

snocone:

What part of fire half the staff do they not understand?

Don't most FBI people tend to vote Republican?

KangTheMad: I think this building should be condemned. There's serious metal fatigue in all the load-bearing members, the wiring is substandard, it's completely inadequate for our power needs, and the neighborhood is like a demilitarized zone.

Hey. Does this pole still work?

Everyone who laughed at this headline is now on a list. Nixon is aware of your Communist Jewish sympathies and he is NOT amused.

Cry me a farking river you filthy pigs.

Foreground My Ass: shame its not public anymore.

Its not public anymore? I took that tour in '81 as a kid, it kicked ass.

An agent fired a M1911, BAR and M1921 in the firing range for us.

fusillade762: KangTheMad: I think this building should be condemned. There's serious metal fatigue in all the load-bearing members, the wiring is substandard, it's completely inadequate for our power needs, and the neighborhood is like a demilitarized zone.

Hey. Does this pole still work?

You're never going to regret this, Ray.

Pollexabator: fusillade762: KangTheMad: I think this building should be condemned. There's serious metal fatigue in all the load-bearing members, the wiring is substandard, it's completely inadequate for our power needs, and the neighborhood is like a demilitarized zone.

Hey. Does this pole still work?

You're never going to regret this, Ray.

If we think of J. Edgar Hoover, J. Edgar Hoover will appear and destroy us

CrackpipeCardozo: Pollexabator: fusillade762: KangTheMad: I think this building should be condemned. There's serious metal fatigue in all the load-bearing members, the wiring is substandard, it's completely inadequate for our power needs, and the neighborhood is like a demilitarized zone.

Hey. Does this pole still work?

You're never going to regret this, Ray.

If we think of J. Edgar Hoover, J. Edgar Hoover will appear and destroy us

Oh God, Ray, what did you do?

//See, I would have thought of Sovereign from Mass Effect. . .and Humanity would be farked.

the way things are going this could be their new headquarters

sure just when the movie's coming out, way to attention whore FBI

/i keed i keed, i like flying mr. fbi guy

Can someone let us idiots in on the joke? I dont get the headline.

CrackpipeCardozo: f we think of J. Edgar Hoover, J. Edgar Hoover will appear and destroy us

That's a scary thought! 50 foot Hoover wearing an evening gown and knocking shiat over downtown

I thought they had secretly moved HQ to Clarksburg WV.

/not-so-secretly

clovis69: Foreground My Ass: shame its not public anymore.

Its not public anymore? I took that tour in '81 as a kid, it kicked ass.

An agent fired a M1911, BAR and M1921 in the firing range for us.

When I took it in 1992, it was a Smith .40, an MP-5, and I can't remember the third. We got to pose for a cheesy photo on the range holding dewat Tommy Guns. I think the tours have been for pre-screened only since 9/11.

Move the HQ, tear down Hoover, re-open the museum / tour someplace they can secure. DoT finally moved out of L'enfant Plaza, move the FBI.

clovis69: Foreground My Ass: shame its not public anymore.

Its not public anymore? I took that tour in '81 as a kid, it kicked ass.

An agent fired a M1911, BAR and M1921 in the firing range for us.

Did the same in '88. Pretty sweet when your a kid. They just fail to tell you all the douchey things they do. They make 12 year olds think they're actually good people. Fark the FBI.

/Crap, now I'm on a list.
//Probably on the list since '88

poe_zlaw: Can someone let us idiots in on the joke? I dont get the headline.

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poe_zlaw: Can someone let us idiots in on the joke? I dont get the headline.

Rumors, never substantiated, that J. Edgar Hoover was a transvestite, or gay. There is a story that some mob boss had pictures, of course even the most critical biographers and FBI historians say it's crap because the photos never saw the light of day even when the FBI under Hoover was cracking down on the mob.

poe_zlaw: Can someone let us idiots in on the joke? I dont get the headline.

It's widely reported/believed that Hoover was gay, and that he and his lifelong assistant were lovers.

/gay, closet, etc.

clovis69: poe_zlaw: Can someone let us idiots in on the joke? I dont get the headline.

Rumors, never substantiated, that J. Edgar Hoover was a transvestite, or gay. There is a story that some mob boss had pictures, of course even the most critical biographers and FBI historians say it's crap because the photos never saw the light of day even when the FBI under Hoover was cracking down on the mob.

On the flip side look at the number of top dons that weren't get arrested until J. Edgar was out of power.

/did he retire or die in office, dont remember

Mega Steve: CrackpipeCardozo: f we think of J. Edgar Hoover, J. Edgar Hoover will appear and destroy us

That's a scary thought! 50 foot Hoover wearing an evening gown and knocking shiat over downtown

Many commies and mobsters knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Slor that day, I can tell you!

I still dont get it. Kanemano: poe_zlaw: Can someone let us idiots in on the joke? I dont get the headline.

Link (new window)

clovis69: poe_zlaw: Can someone let us idiots in on the joke? I dont get the headline.

Rumors, never substantiated, that J. Edgar Hoover was a transvestite, or gay. There is a story that some mob boss had pictures, of course even the most critical biographers and FBI historians say it's crap because the photos never saw the light of day even when the FBI under Hoover was cracking down on the mob.

Unobtanium: poe_zlaw: Can someone let us idiots in on the joke? I dont get the headline.

It's widely reported/believed that Hoover was gay, and that he and his lifelong assistant were lovers.

/gay, closet, etc.

They should rebuild at the current site, but go ahead and put the important parts underground - ala Resident Evil's 'Hive.' If they're going to have a cool semi-secret facility, at least as taxpayers putting billions into it, and wanting a functional government in time of an attack, it could be a cool building.

Badafuco: Did the same in '88. Pretty sweet when your a kid. They just fail to tell you all the douchey things they do. They make 12 year olds think they're actually good people. Fark the FBI.

Yea, it was kick ass, and the giant seized firearms vault with the Plexiglas front.

Yea, fark the FBI, was just having a chat with someone on google chat in Arabic, I tossed in a "hell NSA, hope you are having a great day" because I know that crap popped up on someone's monitor.

I'm safer in the last ten years, so whatever rights I've had to give up for this increased security, I say double it!

The Hoover building (for reasons I've never fully understood) is one of the most hated pieces of architecture in DC. People have wanted to see it torn down since it opened.

Dwight_Yeast: The Hoover building (for reasons I've never fully understood) is one of the most hated pieces of architecture in DC. People have wanted to see it torn down since it opened.

No one likes 'brutalist' architecture.

/tear the damn place down now before it ends up on some historic list

why not radically modify the structure and blame it on a USA Army veteran? they quick-peddled it with success before, just ask Timothy.

Yes, it sounds like they need to dress the building up a bit.

ZAZ: Article: Much of the problem stems from the agency's staff growth since the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks. Back then, 9,700 headquarters staffers worked at seven locations; now, about 17,300 employees and contractors work at 40 separate sites across the country, including 22 in the Washington area.

fbi.gov: On September 30, 2011, we had a total of 35,576 employees. That included 13,900 special agents and 21,676 support professionals, such as intelligence analysts, language specialists, scientists, information technology specialists, and other professionals.

I heard on the radio a couple months ago that there aren't enough investigators to prosecute financial crimes because they were shifted to anti-terrorism work. The guy being interviewed didn't mention the huge growth. Maybe Congress can set a quota for agents assigned to non-sexy crimes.

As an applicant for a Special Agent position, the recruiter told me that they have people who are 100% through the application process and were assigned to go to Quantico for training - but they had to cancel the classes due to the budget crisis/cuts. They also have applicants partially through the process with no clear indication as to when any of the steps that need to take place to move them along will take happen because of budget concerns.

Not very promising for someone trying to re-apply...

The Hoover Building?

I guess it really SUCKS!


/Foghorn sounds

poe_zlaw: Can someone let us idiots in on the joke? I dont get the headline.

ummm, "closet space".



I swear before almighty God that these crotchless undies make me feel really sexy.

Might I suggest that the problem is not that the building is too small, but the FBI is too big?

It's too small because they've grossly overhired since 9/11. Thankfully, they haven't continued to expand under Obama. The Bush administration made a completely understandable oversight during transition from Clinton. This wasn't unforgiveable, had they admitted it. Instead, in the face of the 9/11 PR problem, they overspent and created redundant security functions to make it appear there was something fundamentally wrong with the US security system, not with administration decision-making during the transition. It would have been much better if they had just admitted 9/11 transition errors and beefed-up security in some reasonable ways, while quietly hunting ObL (instead of driving him underground). The US would be in much better shape today, not just the J Edgar Hoover building.