40 years ago, touching random women while cultivating a boner was okay.

Therefore, it's still okay.

Uchiha_Cycliste: And even in the 80's it was legal to fire woman from white collar jobs, like SWengineer, even in California, just for getting pregnant. Woman's rights have come a long way. Why would we say Cain is ok because it used to be common practice to screw woman (ha ha! double entendre) left and right.

bill clinton agrees

Ah yes, because it's still 1970.

GAT_00: Ah yes, because it's still 1970.

He must like full bush.

And once upon a time black people were considered farm equipment.

Sometimes the way we do things just aren't right.

Sex Panther harassment. 60% of the time it works every time. The other 40% of the time the biatch wants to get paid

jbuist: And once upon a time black people were considered farm equipment.

Indeed. We've improved these days to think of brown people as farm equipment.

EnviroDude: bill clinton agrees

GAT_00: Indeed. We've improved these days to think of brown people as farm equipment.

Just think, that means that in 300 years, we'll consider all the albinos that run the nutrient paste synthesis factories, as farm equipment!

"...and remember, nothing says, 'Good Job!' to woman, like a firm smack on the behind."

Mad Men isn't really meant to be a guide for today's office protocals, World Nut Daily.

errr.... "Protocols" that should be.

Uchiha_Cycliste: EnviroDude: Uchiha_Cycliste: And even in the 80's it was legal to fire woman from white collar jobs, like SWengineer, even in California, just for getting pregnant. Woman's rights have come a long way. Why would we say Cain is ok because it used to be common practice to screw woman (ha ha! double entendre) left and right.

bill clinton agrees

so vote Cain? ... wtf

If you remember anything about Clinton it was "lying about sex didn't matter". So I listened and have applied their life lesson.

I don't know if I would vote for Cain (in the primary), but I would vote for him over the wet behind the ears clueless leader the DNC is going to throw at us for reelection.

What did they do back in the 70s? Give women "Roman helmets"?

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*fist bump/shake*



Fast and Dirty, just like Cain likes 'em.

EnviroDude: bill clinton agrees

The guy left office over 10 years ago. Isn't there some sort of statute of limitations on "b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but Clinton" responses? Plus, I'm no fan of Bubba Clinton, but IIRC correctly, he was impeached for lying about getting a consensual blowjob, not for engaging in unwanted sexual harassment, so I'm not sure what his actions have to do with this anyway.

You know what? There are waitstaff that I can do that with today. Guess what? We're friends, and we are affectionate with one another. That doesn't mean that I approach ALL my staff the same way. There are staff that it's appropriate to do this with, and there are staff that it's NOT appropriate with. The key is understanding that difference. For managers, that's not always easy.

I recently had a colleague who didn't understand why this was. He got nailed by complaints by HIS staff that he touched them without their consent. That he routinely made them feel uncomfortable. He tried to reason that there were other managers that hugged and were close to, and that he was being held to a different standard. The reply by HR was: what consenting adults do is their business. These people are complaining that they didn't consent to you pawing on them. Woman hugs you, and you hug back. Woman holds you at arm's length, you don't press in closer.

Each relationship at work is different. Some guys don't like to be clapped on the back. Some guys don't like you ribbing them about their Mom. Some women you don't talk about their mothers or their home life. Some gals will tell you every intimate detail about their life. Some will hug you, some won't. You have to thread these relationships based on what THEY'RE comfortable with, not with what YOU think they SHOULD be comfortable with.

You don't understand that, then maybe you'd be better off punching numbers into machines, because managing people may be too much for you.

Friggin' broads don't even like it when I enjoy the rich taste of a Chesterfield at my desk! Listen, toots, your job is to keep the Carbon Paper stocked and keep them pins lookin' adorable!

Alright - whose dick is up my caboose?
Don? Roger? Peggy?

Blues_X: [img104.imageshack.us image 450x310]

That series of pictures gives me a sort of a shame by proxy. It makes me feel embarrassed for the whole country.

Because it is 1970.

ecmoRandomNumbers: Blues_X: [img104.imageshack.us image 450x310]

That series of pictures gives me a sort of a shame by proxy. It makes me feel embarrassed for the whole country.

It's embarrassing that we elected a guy thought process was.. "Hey, there's Angie, I'll just walk up behind her and massage her shoulders"

/probably the same process in which he thought... "Hey, I'm gonna go invade Iraq and Afghanistan, let's hope nobody notices"

EnviroDude: Uchiha_Cycliste: EnviroDude: Uchiha_Cycliste: And even in the 80's it was legal to fire woman from white collar jobs, like SWengineer, even in California, just for getting pregnant. Woman's rights have come a long way. Why would we say Cain is ok because it used to be common practice to screw woman (ha ha! double entendre) left and right.

bill clinton agrees

so vote Cain? ... wtf

If you remember anything about Clinton it was "lying about sex didn't matter". So I listened and have applied their life lesson.

I don't know if I would vote for Cain (in the primary), but I would vote for him over the wet behind the ears clueless leader the DNC is going to throw at us for reelection.

Seems to me that if you need to actually get someone wet behind the ears then Cain is the one to call.

If someone I wasn't sleeping with or very good friends* with walked up to me and started massaging my shoulders, I'd slap him. My personal space is just that - MINE. I don't even like my spouse hovering in it without a very good reason.

Exception Collection: If someone I wasn't sleeping with or very good friends* with walked up to me and started massaging my shoulders, I'd slap him. My personal space is just that - MINE. I don't even like my spouse hovering in it without a very good reason.

I agree. I can't stand touchy feely people.

I've got good friends I've known for 30 years that I've never hugged or had more physical contact with beyond a hand shake or a pat on the shoulders...

kingoomieiii: 40 years ago, touching random women while cultivating a boner was okay.

Therefore, it's still okay.

You forget that they want to turn back the clock by 50 years. By their standards, this is actually a progressive stance.

Come on, baby. You know you love it.

But how am I supposed to know which female staffers *REALLY* deserve to be promoted???

In the early 1900s it was common to come up to black men who hit on white women and put a rope around their neck, therefore......?

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Friggin' broads don't even like it when I enjoy the rich taste of a Chesterfield at my desk! Listen, toots, your job is to keep the Carbon Paper stocked and keep them pins lookin' adorable!

I read that in this guy's voice:

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Friggin' broads don't even like it when I enjoy the rich taste of a Chesterfield at my desk! Listen, toots, your job is to keep the Carbon Paper stocked and keep them pins lookin' adorable!

Y'know, it wasn't all that long ago that you could enjoy the rich taste of a Chesterfield at your desk. I am old, so it was almost 20 years ago when I started my first job in a law firm (in the early 1990s), but even then, we were allowed to smoke in our offices if we wanted to (and we were only supposed to smoke cigarettes indoors, not cigars, unfortunately). Secretaries, of course, who sat in cubies rather than private offices, were not allowed to smoke at their desks, but they could always go into office of an attorney who smoked, close the door, and share a smoke break in the attorney's office. And this was in San Francisco, fer Chrissake, not Nashville!

But even back then, everyone knew that doing the stuff that Cain is alleged to have done would've likely gotten your ass fired or gotten you sued, of course. And a male employee who came up behind a female employee and gave her unsolicited shoulder masage would've definitely gotten a talking to from HR.

In 1970, it was common for white people to be outraged if a black man touched a white woman.

in the 1970s, the highest marginal rate of income tax was double what it is now and the capital gains tax was over triple, so it's ok for taxes to be raised slightly in both columns today.

Cyberluddite:
Y'know, it wasn't all that long ago that you could enjoy the rich taste of a Chesterfield at your desk. .

At the Pennsylvania Capitol House and Senate Members were allowed to smoke in their offices up until 2006! And this is in a building that couldn't be reproduced for $20 billion today.

Well, someone who is 70 today was 30 in 1971. So that probably makes sense to the Tea Party crowd.

shiat, I worked with a dude in 2009 who was still doing that. Did I mention I'm a man too?

Yeah, awkward situation, but I wouldn't exactly sue over it.

choo: Fast and Dirty, just like Cain likes 'em.

F*cking bravissimo. XD

Uchiha_Cycliste: EnviroDude: Uchiha_Cycliste: EnviroDude: Uchiha_Cycliste: And even in the 80's it was legal to fire woman from white collar jobs, like SWengineer, even in California, just for getting pregnant. Woman's rights have come a long way. Why would we say Cain is ok because it used to be common practice to screw woman (ha ha! double entendre) left and right.

bill clinton agrees

so vote Cain? ... wtf

If you remember anything about Clinton it was "lying about sex didn't matter". So I listened and have applied their life lesson.

I don't know if I would vote for Cain (in the primary), but I would vote for him over the wet behind the ears clueless leader the DNC is going to throw at us for reelection.

OOH! I remember that, and Clinton ran on a family values platform right? That's what his party was all about, conservative social issues. Ugh what a hypocrite, amirite?

That's right, he didn't, so that means he's free to be as libertine as he desires without consequence. Being a Democrat is a pretty sweet gig. You can get caught farking a dead goat during snack time at a preschool, but since your party has never verbalized a desire to aspire to higher values --it doesn't matter! At least he's not a hypocrite, amirite?