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2011-11-09 10:55:31 AM
the game started going downhill two years ago.
 
2011-11-09 10:58:30 AM
I only started playing about two months ago, and I'm having a great time. I think the upcoming pandas are silly tho.

/Did not RTFA, blocked at work
 
2011-11-09 11:00:39 AM
How can you kill that which has no life?
 
2011-11-09 11:02:11 AM
I don't get the appeal of MMORPGs that require a lot of grinding. I have a job. Why do I want another job when I'm at home relaxing?
 
2011-11-09 11:04:15 AM
i haven't played in months. i found the latest expansion kind of boring, actually.
 
2011-11-09 11:14:42 AM
RexTalionis: I don't get the appeal of MMORPGs that require a lot of grinding. I have a job. Why do I want another job when I'm at home relaxing?

Exactly. I like games that are immersive and fun. I've never played WoW, but it looks to me like the whole role-playing aspect of it is just window dressing.
Looks like they're doing the same thing with Diablo 3, making it a grinding multiplayer online thing. Thankfully Skyrim is coming up.
 
2011-11-09 11:15:55 AM
OH NO! The largest paid-subscription MMO on the market shrunk from 5x the size of it's largest competitor to merely 4x!
 
2011-11-09 11:22:27 AM
It's clear the last guy there will be LEEEROOOOYYY JENKINS!
 
2011-11-09 11:49:07 AM
RexTalionis: I don't get the appeal of MMORPGs that require a lot of grinding. I have a job. Why do I want another job when I'm at home relaxing?

I can't stand grinding either and don't bother with those parts of the game that require that. For me it's a great way to hang out with my friends and family that live far away. The thing about a game with a player base that huge is there is no way to keep everyone happy. They made leveling much easier and more fun but there was an awful lot of QQ in the forums from folks complaining that the game had changed.

People who complain that a game has gotten boring after playing it for 5 years need to go do something else for a while. It's a fun game and most people find it enjoyable for at least a year. That's better than most games imo.

The key is to find yourself a good guild that you mesh with. And stay away from those wimpy Alliance. :P
For the Horde!!!!


/Petopians/Nesingwary/Sallysquish
 
2011-11-09 11:51:56 AM
quickdraw: People who complain that a game has gotten boring after playing it for 5 years need to go do something else for a while. It's a fun game and most people find it enjoyable for at least a year. That's better than most games imo.

Playing a game for 5 years require far too much an investment in attention span than I am able to spare. I can't even sit through a 30 minute TV show without pausing, walking around, doing something else and then coming back to it an hour later.
 
2011-11-09 12:03:36 PM
quickdraw:
For the Horde!!!!

/Petopians/Nesingwary/Sallysquish



THIS!!

/Nazgrel
 
2011-11-09 12:05:03 PM
RexTalionis: Playing a game for 5 years require far too much an investment in attention span than I am able to spare.

Understandable.

RexTalionis: I can't even sit through a 30 minute TV show without pausing, walking around, doing something else and then coming back to it an hour later.

Methylphenidate. Get some.
 
2011-11-09 12:11:00 PM
I used to play a lot, raid, server firsts, etc. Now I basically just gear an alt, take a break, gear another alt, take a break. I'll probably quit after 4.3. Not sure I want to buy the Pandas N Pokemon expansion.
 
2011-11-09 12:12:16 PM
RexTalionis: quickdraw: People who complain that a game has gotten boring after playing it for 5 years need to go do something else for a while. It's a fun game and most people find it enjoyable for at least a year. That's better than most games imo.

Playing a game for 5 years require far too much an investment in attention span than I am able to spare. I can't even sit through a 30 minute TV show without pausing, walking around, doing something else and then coming back to it an hour later.


I cant watch TV either it's much too passive for me - which is why I play games or do art or whatever seems like a good idea. I certainly wouldn't suggest sitting and doing nothing but playing WoW for 5 years. Or anything else for that matter. That was kind of the point I was making.

Anyways I find WoW to be a fun diversion. Sometimes I'll be really into it for a few days and then other times I won't play for weeks. I do find it amusing when people treat WoW like it was some sort of huge life commitment.

It's a godsend for folks with mobility issues or people stuck in horrid life circumstances they can't immeadiatley change. I like it because I can play with my mom (she's 70) who lives far away and my hubby, who sits right next to me. It's the social aspects of the game that keep me hanging out. Also I like the art and enjoy the jokes.

But I'm not suggesting anyone should play if they don't want to. It just seems silly to me when people pass judgement on things they have never tried for themselves.
 
2011-11-09 12:15:20 PM
quickdraw: The key is to find yourself a good guild that you mesh with. And stay away from those wimpy Alliance.

I played Ally for 3 years, so bugger yourself with a stick. And it was back when AV was good too. I quit not long after LK came out. Started somewhere around when ZG was introduced.

What they need to do is go back to when the game was harder. When you had to get attunements, when you had to do something to get to the endgame.

kingoomieiii: RexTalionis: Playing a game for 5 years require far too much an investment in attention span than I am able to spare.

Understandable.

RexTalionis: I can't even sit through a 30 minute TV show without pausing, walking around, doing something else and then coming back to it an hour later.

Methylphenidate. Get some.


So let me ask you this? I always have two sources of information coming at me. I'll either have music playing, or be running video on my computer, something like that. Even when I'm doing real work. Hell, a couple of weekends ago, I had football muted on the TV, one computer had West Wing running, and I was grading papers with the other computer.

I have to do that because just one source of information makes me eventually get bored and do other stuff. The extra noise makes me concentrate better. I know that's a mild form of ADD, nothing real serious, but is that serious enough to actually go get meds?
 
2011-11-09 12:18:24 PM
GAT_00: I played Ally for 3 years, so bugger yourself with a stick.

Typical Ally rudeness. :P


Actually I'm bi-factional. Love my dwarf pally. If you don't play both sides you miss half the game but I am a Hoardie at heart. I just like the art better.
 
2011-11-09 12:19:45 PM
Quasar: I used to play a lot, raid, server firsts, etc. Now I basically just gear an alt, take a break, gear another alt, take a break. I'll probably quit after 4.3. Not sure I want to buy the Pandas N Pokemon expansion.

the only think I like about the Pandas is the idea of selecting your faction after you've been playing a bit (10th level I think) I don't PvP a lot, but can you imagine battlegrounds, not knowing if that panda running at you is on your side or not?

with that said, they can go screw with the Pokemon crap.
 
2011-11-09 12:22:07 PM
quickdraw: GAT_00: I played Ally for 3 years, so bugger yourself with a stick.

Typical Ally rudeness. :P


Actually I'm bi-factional. Love my dwarf pally. If you don't play both sides you miss half the game but I am a Hoardie at heart. I just like the art better.


I actually made a Horde SP on a PvE server, and leveled it up quite a ways. It was interesting actually doing it without any support, and a lot easier that time than when I first started. And PvE was so much easier than my PvP home server. But I loved my mage. She was all kinds of fun.

And no city was as nice as SW.

/Crushridge
 
2011-11-09 12:39:44 PM
ManateeGag: the only think I like about the Pandas is the idea of selecting your faction after you've been playing a bit (10th level I think) I don't PvP a lot, but can you imagine battlegrounds, not knowing if that panda running at you is on your side or not?

I don't think there's a lot of battlegrounds at level 10, and I imagine you can only select a faction if you're on a PVE server since you're currently unable to have a character on the opposite faction if you're on a PVP server.
 
2011-11-09 12:51:46 PM
When I heard of Panderia I thought, "Really? Kung-Fu Panda?"

I swear to god if I'm running my Worgen hunter and some damned Panda comes up to me asking me to Yiff....
 
2011-11-09 12:58:26 PM
Ghastly: When I heard of Panderia I thought, "Really? Kung-Fu Panda?"

I swear to god if I'm running my Worgen hunter and some damned Panda comes up to me asking me to Yiff....


Considering how Furry-esque they made female Worgen models, I shudder to think what the female Panda will look like.
 
2011-11-09 01:06:45 PM
Quasar: Ghastly: When I heard of Panderia I thought, "Really? Kung-Fu Panda?"

I swear to god if I'm running my Worgen hunter and some damned Panda comes up to me asking me to Yiff....

Considering how Furry-esque they made female Worgen models, I shudder to think what the female Panda will look like.


i.imgur.com
 
2011-11-09 01:31:40 PM
I never understood why someone would pay $60.00 for a game and then have to keep paying to play it.
 
2011-11-09 01:32:49 PM
Still has 10 million subscriptions. Assuming every sub is $15/mo (I don't know if they vary per country), that's $150 000 000 / month.

I think Blizzard is doing fine.
 
2011-11-09 01:33:36 PM
Too large to post (new window).
/not mine
 
2011-11-09 01:35:40 PM
I enjoyed playing WoW for a few years, but it just gets old. Same shiat, day in and out; quests are boring. PvE is boring. The PvP is repetitive. I like the holiday events and the crafting system, and my altoholicsm kept me playing long after the sizzle had faded.

Anyhow, Star Wars: The Old Republic beckons. I'm Beta-testing this Friday, and I am sooooooo stoked. Jedi Consular, Shadow spec? I came. Pissed that bothans aren't a playable race.
 
2011-11-09 01:37:48 PM
GAT_00: The extra noise makes me concentrate better. I know that's a mild form of ADD, nothing real serious, but is that serious enough to actually go get meds?

The decision to "go on meds", in my opinion, should hinge on whether you feel it's under control or not. Based on the little information you've given, it sounds like you have a handle on it. That's fine, if your loved ones and boss can put up with it.

Meds, I think, are a last resort if you're unable to function. If you can't sustain relationships or keep jobs, we got a serious problem.
 
2011-11-09 01:37:48 PM
Brandyelf: quickdraw:
For the Horde!!!!

/Petopians/Nesingwary/Sallysquish


THIS!!

/Nazgrel


Thank god I can't read basement-dweller. I'd have to punch the both of you via TCIP/IP.
 
2011-11-09 01:39:07 PM
madcan34: I never understood why someone would pay $60.00 for a game and then have to keep paying to play it.

Before I get off your lawn, you know my dad said the same about cable television?

On another note I tried Warcraft and had some troll dude I taught to be a blacksmith, and then remembered that I have a perfectly good MIG welder in the shed I do not know how to use. So I canceled my account.

Why teach a nonexistent thing to do something instead of learning it my self?
 
2011-11-09 01:40:19 PM
doglover: How can you kill that which has no life?

They didn't leave. They're just hanging out in the forest, killing boars.
 
2011-11-09 01:40:35 PM
RexTalionis: I don't get the appeal of MMORPGs that require a lot of grinding. I have a job. Why do I want another job when I'm at home relaxing?

WoW hasn't required grinding since they phased out material components for buffs a couple years back, and even before that you were just fine questing up to the level cap and then just doing dungeons/raids as you pleased. PvP isn't particularly balanced, but, again, it was never really a PvP game.

The only people doing anything remotely close to grinding are the gold farmers, and frankly the last couple expansions have rigged the NPC economy so that you can get all the gold you want with almost no effort as a side effect of just playing the game (dungeons/raids) so that's pretty much obsolete now too.

If you want to grind, you're going to have to go buy Dark Souls or Eve Online.

Ghastly: When I heard of Panderia I thought, "Really? Kung-Fu Panda?"

The original Pandaren unit from the RTS games was channeling Jackie Chan as Wong Fei-Hung pretty hard, so, while that was five years or so before that movie came out, basically yes. Same influences, more or less.
 
2011-11-09 01:41:53 PM
The game is over 5 years old, the fact that it's still a juggernaut is amazing. I wonder how big of a dent SW:TOR is going to be on it.
 
2011-11-09 01:44:28 PM
GAT_00: quickdraw: The key is to find yourself a good guild that you mesh with. And stay away from those wimpy Alliance.

I played Ally for 3 years, so bugger yourself with a stick. And it was back when AV was good too.


I do miss the original AV where the battles took forever to finish. Winning one of those was always awesome. Now they are so easy and quick to win.

I doubt I'll go back again, SWTOR will hopefully be good enough for my game fix.
 
2011-11-09 01:45:53 PM
valar_morghulis: I enjoyed playing WoW for a few years, but it just gets old. Same shiat, day in and out; quests are boring. PvE is boring. The PvP is repetitive. I like the holiday events and the crafting system, and my altoholicsm kept me playing long after the sizzle had faded.

Anyhow, Star Wars: The Old Republic beckons. I'm Beta-testing this Friday, and I am sooooooo stoked. Jedi Consular, Shadow spec? I came. Pissed that bothans aren't a playable race.


It's an amazing game. I played Sith. My Review just went live on IHC this afternoon. I was in the second Beta weekend.

I've been WoW free for over a year and a half, and I won't ever be going back. I will however, be playing The Old Republic.

/Sith Guild already registered and ready for launch.
 
2011-11-09 01:46:45 PM
moralpanic: The game is over 5 years old, the fact that it's still a juggernaut is amazing. I wonder how big of a dent SW:TOR is going to be on it.

Hard to say. TOR is pretty novel as far as MMO's go; story-driven, solo-friendly, yet still retaining all of the characteristics of a massively-multiplayer online RPG. It'll suck up the diaspora from Star Wars Galaxies and attract people sick of Warcraft, AoC, LotRO, and other stale games. And it'll pull in the Star Wars nerds.

There always seems to be a "WoW-killer" every few years that fails to live up to the hype; I think TOR will exceed its hype. There's a perfect storm accruing around it that makes conditions ripe for success.
 
2011-11-09 01:46:46 PM
moralpanic: The game is over 5 years old, the fact that it's still a juggernaut is amazing. I wonder how big of a dent SW:TOR is going to be on it.

None. If no one has realized it by now, the only thing that will kill WoW is another Blizzard game.

/Wife and I are currently not playing. Mostly due to lack of time and money, but we would still love to be able to be playing.
 
2011-11-09 01:47:47 PM
GAT_00: I know that's a mild form of ADD, nothing real serious, but is that serious enough to actually go get meds?

STAY OFF MEDS UNLESS YOUR CONDITION IS PREVENTING YOU FROM DOING THINGS YOU WANT TO DO.

Docs will just throw a dart at a board of pharmaceuticals and give you one to see how it works. You'll probably be stuck with a bunch of side effects and no real benefit.

Finding a med that works for you is a long and painful process. We don't know why people have ADD or why they get depressed. There is no test you can give to say "Oh, you're low on this neurotransmitter. This drug will fix it"

Most psych meds are targeted to work on only one or 2 neurotransmitters. Say serotonin receptors for example. If serotonin levels aren't your problem, then the med can only fark things up by giving you too much or to little serotonin. Then there is the matter of side effects that can also make your life hell.

If you are happy with the way your life is. There is no need for meds.

If you are sad and crying for no reason every day, or cant pay attention to the things you want or need to, then going down the garden path of medications CAN be beneficial in the long run, but as i said, its a long and painful process.

/my advice is you need to smoke some weed.
 
2011-11-09 01:47:57 PM
I still play actively, however there is a bit of a haze descending upon myself and my guildmates as it's getting difficult at times to gather up players to get shiat done.

it's a bit of an up and down and I've seen it before. Between patches is the worst and, to be fair, a lot of people in china (where they are reporting most of the losses) quit because it takes so much god damned effort to get the game cleared in china that the chinese populace is like 3 years behind everyone else expansion-wise.

I have seen some footage of gameplay of SW:TOR and...I don't know...it looks exactly like WoW but with lazers and lightsabers. I was pretty excited about it when it was first announced and the first footage was released but as it gets closer to release my excitement has deflated.

We'll see...I'll still give it a try because some of my guildmates in WoW will be trying it, and because I want to give it a fair shake, but I suspect a true wow-killer won't happen until blizzard kills it itself with its new Titan MMO project and a combination of SC2 and Diablo 3.
 
2011-11-09 01:48:54 PM
StochasticLife: valar_morghulis: I enjoyed playing WoW for a few years, but it just gets old. Same shiat, day in and out; quests are boring. PvE is boring. The PvP is repetitive. I like the holiday events and the crafting system, and my altoholicsm kept me playing long after the sizzle had faded.

Anyhow, Star Wars: The Old Republic beckons. I'm Beta-testing this Friday, and I am sooooooo stoked. Jedi Consular, Shadow spec? I came. Pissed that bothans aren't a playable race.

It's an amazing game. I played Sith. My Review just went live on IHC this afternoon. I was in the second Beta weekend.

I've been WoW free for over a year and a half, and I won't ever be going back. I will however, be playing The Old Republic.

/Sith Guild already registered and ready for launch.


Nice. I originally wanted to play Sith as an Inquisitor, but I like melee-heavy talents like Shadow. Maybe we'll see each other on the battlefield.

/Republic guild ready to go -- "My Aim Is True."
 
2011-11-09 01:50:01 PM
My fear for the old republic is stability. The name star wars will bring millions, servers will crash. New servers will be bought. Two months later, several servers are barren wastelands.

See also: rift, aion, et al
 
2011-11-09 01:50:09 PM
StochasticLife: valar_morghulis: I enjoyed playing WoW for a few years, but it just gets old. Same shiat, day in and out; quests are boring. PvE is boring. The PvP is repetitive. I like the holiday events and the crafting system, and my altoholicsm kept me playing long after the sizzle had faded.

Anyhow, Star Wars: The Old Republic beckons. I'm Beta-testing this Friday, and I am sooooooo stoked. Jedi Consular, Shadow spec? I came. Pissed that bothans aren't a playable race.

It's an amazing game. I played Sith. My Review just went live on IHC this afternoon. I was in the second Beta weekend.

I've been WoW free for over a year and a half, and I won't ever be going back. I will however, be playing The Old Republic.

/Sith Guild already registered and ready for launch.


I'm in SWTOR beta and it feels like WoW in Space to me. I have not done their version of raids however, so I can't speak authoritatively.
 
2011-11-09 01:51:37 PM
Where wolf: My fear for the old republic is stability. The name star wars will bring millions, servers will crash. New servers will be bought. Two months later, several servers are barren wastelands.

See also: rift, aion, et al


I believe that servers have been rented from Blizzard to forestall against such a possibility. See also: a staggered launch with early access. I doubt it'll be seamless, but neither will it be a train wreck.
 
2011-11-09 01:53:35 PM
Where wolf: The name star wars will bring millions, servers will crash.

IIRC, they're restricting sales of the game. They're only printing a certain amount for release, most likely to avoid that very issue. It might end up being kind of Wii-esque.
 
2011-11-09 01:54:39 PM
Most of the cancelled subscriptions are likely in China or folks with multiple accounts...but that's just me.

Just like EverQuest (which somehow still has people playing it and content developed) WoW will never completely die out. With 10.3M subscribers left, I don't think Blizzard has much to worry about financially :P
 
2011-11-09 01:54:55 PM
GAT_00: And no city was as nice as SW.

It's nice in a fairybook castle kind of way. Much nicer now that I can fly over it instead of running through it. My fave cite has always been Thunder Bluff which is just a ghost town since they shut down the Dalaran portals. OTOH the layout of Exodar explains why the Dranai crashed, and the emptiness of Silver Moon is a testament to the fact that belfs don't even like themselves.

Love Org though. What can I say? I'm impressed by large tusks.

maniacbastard: Why teach a nonexistent thing to do something instead of learning it my self?

The reason I do such things is so I can make silly in game pets for my mom or whatever any of my other friends need. Its a fun way to share things with people I love. All that said I already know how to weld. I've done leather working, jewelry making, herbalism and weaving and all that crafty stuff for fun and profit so I like playing a game that places value on those skills.
 
2011-11-09 01:55:03 PM
valar_morghulis: Where wolf: My fear for the old republic is stability. The name star wars will bring millions, servers will crash. New servers will be bought. Two months later, several servers are barren wastelands.

See also: rift, aion, et al

I believe that servers have been rented from Blizzard to forestall against such a possibility. See also: a staggered launch with early access. I doubt it'll be seamless, but neither will it be a train wreck.


But how do you build a server community when you know transfers are a month after launch and you're sever ghost Towns a week after that?

I should have clarified. I know the servers will be stable, but can you build a community and have a "healthy"game?
 
2011-11-09 01:55:07 PM
it was a fun game for a few years, but it got a bit repetative.

SW:TOR is quite fun, although its mechanically pretty similar to wow. guess it will depend on how varied they can make it- there is a massive, massive amount of content and it works really well for whats ostensibly still a beta. i expect it to do well, but i don't see it as killing WoW. only WoW will kill WoW
 
2011-11-09 01:56:57 PM
madcan34: I never understood why someone would pay $60.00 for a game and then have to keep paying to play it.

Compared to spending $60 every month for a new game to retain the same level of interest?
 
2011-11-09 01:57:14 PM
Where wolf: valar_morghulis: Where wolf: My fear for the old republic is stability. The name star wars will bring millions, servers will crash. New servers will be bought. Two months later, several servers are barren wastelands.

See also: rift, aion, et al

I believe that servers have been rented from Blizzard to forestall against such a possibility. See also: a staggered launch with early access. I doubt it'll be seamless, but neither will it be a train wreck.

But how do you build a server community when you know transfers are a month after launch and you're sever ghost Towns a week after that?

I should have clarified. I know the servers will be stable, but can you build a community and have a "healthy"game?


I don't have the answers, and I share your anxieties in that regard. I remember Warhammer Online ballooning up and then deflating, leaving the desiccated carcasses of servers everywhere. My wow server, Hakkar-US, was dead last I checked -- only 250 or so active Horde players.
 
2011-11-09 01:59:32 PM
I got into the TOR beta this weekend, but I'm on travel. While the laptop might handle the game, I don't know if I can pull the whole client down.

Besides, I'm just waiting for dominion ranked games. LoL is almost everything I want from a game.
 
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