Rev.K: As TFer Dusk_You_And_Me so eloquently said yesterday:

How much should the rich pay in taxes?

A lot more. Deal with it..

Fixing the capital gains nonsense would solve a lot of that. 15% is insane when you consider how much money is made via capital gains by the richest people in America.

The actual maximum income tax rate in America isn't that horribly low. I mean it's 35%, which isn't that far off a lot of other powerful (economically) countries. I mean it's on par with France.

It's the capital gains nonsense that seems to be f*cking you guys so bad.

The primary concerns of the "conservative" mind are sex and brown people. Economics is negotiable.

Theodore Roosevelt. Lower Oakland Roller Derby finals.

Everytime this is done, it's always Reagan, because St. Dutch raised taxes as much as anyone.

DamnYankees:

You are a god among men.

That's a very well written article. Funny how some of the better journalistic pieces of the last few years keep coming from a music magazine.

Reagan was the root of a great deal of our problems. A very stupid man who was the tool of his advisors.

Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: Rev.K: As TFer Dusk_You_And_Me so eloquently said yesterday:

How much should the rich pay in taxes?

A lot more. Deal with it..

Fixing the capital gains nonsense would solve a lot of that. 15% is insane when you consider how much money is made via capital gains by the richest people in America.

The actual maximum income tax rate in America isn't that horribly low. I mean it's 35%, which isn't that far off a lot of other powerful (economically) countries. I mean it's on par with France.

It's the capital gains nonsense that seems to be f*cking you guys so bad.

Yep.

As a gambler I don't like how it used to count 30% on cap gains from playing poker, but that's just peanuts compared to the revenue being lost by investment gains.

Liberals have a hard time differentiating between amounts and percentages.

The most depressing aspect of all these articles about how the 1% and Republicans are truly screwing us is that they all need a little bit of critical reading. And guess who doesn't care to critically read anything? That's right. The idiots who vote republican and the idiots who listen to Fox News and Limbaugh.

All articles like this only preach to the choir. Everyone else just ignores or refuses to believe it.

/but I'm not saying stop
//just really depressed about the whole state of things

RolandGunner: Liberals have a hard time differentiating between amounts and percentages.

That's why we need a FAIR tax so that everyone pays the same percentage. It has "fair" right in the title. What other tax plan is called the Fair Tax Plan?

Shameful class warfare.

coeyagi: Everytime this is done, it's always Reagan, because St. Dutch raised taxes as much as anyone.

The article is about Reagan closing tax loopholes, not raising taxes.

That's swell and all, but who do you think this guy is going to vote for?



There's millions of him.

Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: Rev.K: As TFer Dusk_You_And_Me so eloquently said yesterday:

How much should the rich pay in taxes?

A lot more. Deal with it..

Fixing the capital gains nonsense would solve a lot of that. 15% is insane when you consider how much money is made via capital gains by the richest people in America.

The actual maximum income tax rate in America isn't that horribly low. I mean it's 35%, which isn't that far off a lot of other powerful (economically) countries. I mean it's on par with France.

It's the capital gains nonsense that seems to be f*cking you guys so bad.

Why do we keep pretending capital gains is the same as tax on labor. Capital gains involves risk. You make an investment, you can just as much lose every penny of it as well as make money on it. But I bet discouraging investment will go a long ways to solving all our economic problems.

EWreckedSean: coeyagi: Everytime this is done, it's always Reagan, because St. Dutch raised taxes as much as anyone.

The article is about Reagan closing tax loopholes, not raising taxes.

Read the whole article before you start claiming to know what the article is about. It's actually a pretty good read, it might open your eyes a little.

Rapmaster2000: RolandGunner: Liberals have a hard time differentiating between amounts and percentages.

That's why we need a FAIR tax so that everyone pays the same percentage. It has "fair" right in the title. What other tax plan is called the Fair Tax Plan?

The one carnies complain about? Or perhaps the one larpers complain about?

Rapmaster2000: RolandGunner: Liberals have a hard time differentiating between amounts and percentages.

That's why we need a FAIR tax so that everyone pays the same percentage. It has "fair" right in the title. What other tax plan is called the Fair Tax Plan?

I really hate that shiat about politics and it seems to be like a competition in America for who can name the most counterintuitive piece of legislation.

"We'll call it the Saving America's Youth Act, which forbids rape victims from reporting their rape if more than 24 hours has passed"

EWreckedSean: coeyagi: Everytime this is done, it's always Reagan, because St. Dutch raised taxes as much as anyone.

The article is about Reagan closing tax loopholes, not raising taxes.

You must not have gotten Grover Norquist's memo.

EWreckedSean: Why do we keep pretending capital gains is the same as tax on labor. Capital gains involves risk. You make an investment, you can just as much lose every penny of it as well as make money on it. But I bet discouraging investment will go a long ways to solving all our economic problems.

It's true! If we taxed Capital Gains at 30% instead of 15%, the rich would get upset and stop trying to make money! We mustn't offend their delicate sensibilities!

Tusz: EWreckedSean: Why do we keep pretending capital gains is the same as tax on labor. Capital gains involves risk. You make an investment, you can just as much lose every penny of it as well as make money on it. But I bet discouraging investment will go a long ways to solving all our economic problems.

It's true! If we taxed Capital Gains at 30% instead of 15%, the rich would get upset and stop trying to make money! We mustn't offend their delicate sensibilities!

Yeah, I bet the rich will try to get a 9 to 5 job instead of investing.

Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: "We'll call it the Saving America's Youth Act, which forbids rape victims from reporting their rape if more than 24 hours has passed"

Well I don't want my taxes doing to pay for socialist government rape panels.

It was the birth of what is now known as "Starve the Beast" - a conscious strategy by conservatives to force cuts in federal spending by bankrupting the country. As conceived by the right-wing intellectual Irving Kristol in 1980, the plan called for Republicans to create a "fiscal problem" by slashing taxes - and then foist the pain of reimposing fiscal discipline onto future Democratic administrations who, in Kristol's words, would be forced to "tidy up afterward."


Modern Republicanism, summed up in one nice paragraph. Sprinkle in some Jesus for good measure.

There is not a single case where a bus driver pays more in taxes then a millionaire.

Hydra: Remember, it's only Republicans who are the "party of the rich." No Democrat or former Democrat is rich at the expense of someone else or by being corrupt. Only Republicans.

/yeah, okay

And nothing was left but a flannel shirt and tattered overalls upon a heap of straw.

Tusz: It's true! If we taxed Capital Gains at 30% instead of 15%, the rich would get upset and stop trying to make money! We mustn't offend their delicate sensibilities!

In fairness, you're talking to a guy who thinks that a progressive tax system discourages people from trying to get raises and promotions.

Tusz: EWreckedSean: Why do we keep pretending capital gains is the same as tax on labor. Capital gains involves risk. You make an investment, you can just as much lose every penny of it as well as make money on it. But I bet discouraging investment will go a long ways to solving all our economic problems.

It's true! If we taxed Capital Gains at 30% instead of 15%, the rich would get upset and stop trying to make money! We mustn't offend their delicate sensibilities!

The sad part is you actually believe doubling the capital gains tax wouldn't have a large negative affect on investment.

Rev.K: Jake Havechek: Reagan was the root of a great deal of our problems. A very stupid man who was the tool of his advisors.

Welcome back.

Thanks again, man. Work is actually busy today, but I am an excellent multi tasker.

Hydra: Remember, it's only Republicans who are the "party of the rich." No Democrat or former Democrat is rich at the expense of someone else or by being corrupt. Only Republicans.

/yeah, okay

Really, Corzine? That is your argument to say that the Democrats are just as bad as the Republicans?

1 Data Point = WHARGARBL RA DERP HERPITY DERPITY DO.

Seriously, you can leave now or go stand in the corner.

Hydra: Remember, it's only Republicans who are the "party of the rich." No Democrat or former Democrat is rich at the expense of someone else or by being corrupt. Only Republicans.

/yeah, okay

The plural of anecdote is not data.

EWreckedSean: Why do we keep pretending capital gains is the same as tax on labor. Capital gains involves risk. You make an investment, you can just as much lose every penny of it as well as make money on it. But I bet discouraging investment will go a long ways to solving all our economic problems.

Yes because with Germany's capital gains tax rate of 25%, the country is on the verge of complete collapse. It has no millionaires at all in fact. They were all cannibalized by the socialist masses who roasted them on spits while chanting "eat the rich, eat the rich".

And don't even get me started about Sweden. With their 30% capital gains tax rate the country just spontaneously imploded one day and all that remains there now is an arid wasteland of lutefisk and canned meatballs. It's horrifying.

lordaction: There is not a single case where a bus driver pays more in taxes then a millionaire.

Once again, libs don't know the difference between amounts and percentages.

High-five to Roland Gunner! We're crushing these libtards.

birchman: EWreckedSean: coeyagi: Everytime this is done, it's always Reagan, because St. Dutch raised taxes as much as anyone.

The article is about Reagan closing tax loopholes, not raising taxes.

Read the whole article before you start claiming to know what the article is about. It's actually a pretty good read, it might open your eyes a little.

No time for an 8 page read right now. The first page has all the same old comparisons to Reagan we've heard a thousand times before.

EWreckedSean: Tusz: EWreckedSean: Why do we keep pretending capital gains is the same as tax on labor. Capital gains involves risk. You make an investment, you can just as much lose every penny of it as well as make money on it. But I bet discouraging investment will go a long ways to solving all our economic problems.

It's true! If we taxed Capital Gains at 30% instead of 15%, the rich would get upset and stop trying to make money! We mustn't offend their delicate sensibilities!

The sad part is you actually believe doubling the capital gains tax wouldn't have a large negative affect on investment.

It would sure help reign in the wild speculation that has contributed to our last few bubbles.

Rapmaster2000: lordaction: There is not a single case where a bus driver pays more in taxes then a millionaire.

Once again, libs don't know the difference between amounts and percentages.

High-five to Roland Gunner! We're crushing these libtards.

You should dig up Reagan, tell him the difference since he's the farktard who made the quote, then cut off his nuts and feed them to Grover Norquist, then rebury him.