biatch stole my video games and took all the good DVDs.
/not even kidding

wow. how does marrrriage work?

jonny_ill: wow. how does marrrriage work?

They need to do way instain significant others> who live together. becuse they cant share property?

So now you don't even have to be married for women to legally steal all of your money and belongings. Thanks feminism!

FTFA:
"If they live in this house it's their house. If they drive this car it's their car he's been working at xyz company and he has retirement and I'm entitled to that. If you're not married you're not entitled to any of those things," says Hamilton.

Hey lady, this is why he never got around to proposing to you in the first place. Cohabitation definitely works in the wealthier partner's favor (typically the man's).

Wheat.

So a man can pay on items over 15 years and still not have any ownership. But if a man lives with a woman and child long enough then he legally has to pay child support to the mother.

Did I mess that up?

News Flash: Liars Lawyers want a new revenue stream.

Also, "Mothers Who Are Not Pregnant Feel That Abortion Is Not An Option."

And if you're gay on top of it all...

Theaetetus: jonny_ill: wow. how does marrrriage work?

They need to do way instain significant others> who live together. becuse they cant share property?

WTF AM I READING?

I think we missed a step here. Better go back and check the instructions.

Nobody read the article, did they?

Domestic partnership? I thought those had some kind of legal holding but I really have never researched it.

Theaetetus: jonny_ill: wow. how does marrrriage work?

They need to do way instain significant others> who live together. becuse they cant share property?

not sure what you said there. But, Louisiana is not a common law state. It does not recognize common law marriages in Louisiana (I think we have to recognize a marriage if another state says it's a marriage, but you will not have a common law marriage by living together in Louisiana... we're civilian afterall).

However, Louisiana is a community property regime state. While in the marital regime, there is a community of the acquets and gains. Meaning husband and wife are equal owners in indivision of all acquired property (unless it is specifically separate property, such as that which is obtained by will, separate funds, or if there is an agreement denying the community regime).

This means that any money the man makes by his work is co-owned equally by his wife.

Unmarried people mistakenly think that they are enjoying a community regime. When they break up, they think they have a right to property as if it were a community regime (falsely assuming that they had lived together long enough to enter into a common law marriage). This is a problem, because often the man or woman will quit their job to make house, and then when the relationship ends, they are in dire straights with no recourse.

Hamilton Law Associates lawyer Peter Hamilton

Hey, that guy got a job at a company that has the same name he does. What a funny coincidence.

FTFA: The Pew Research Center looked at the marriage trend and found that 39 percent of people feel marriage is becoming obsolete.


I'll forward this to my mother.

HellRaisingHoosier: So a man can pay on items over 15 years and still not have any ownership. But if a man lives with a woman and child long enough then he legally has to pay child support to the mother.

Did I mess that up?

Why spend 15 years with someone and not marry them?

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netweavr: Nobody read the article, did they?

Just because you live together, say, 7 years doesn't make you magically in a common law marriage. Therefore, you're safe and don't have to legally divorce. Just split up your crap and move along. Weee!

You have to express your intent to have a common law marriage. That is, if it's recognized in your state in the first place.

FTFA: "The Pew Research Center looked at the marriage trend and found that 39 percent of people feel marriage is becoming obsolete."

So, the real number of atheists in this country is 40%, and not the 10% who admit it.

Sounds about right.

If we allow gay marriage, doesn't it seem that allowing unwed divorce would soon follow?

Bacon is Meat Candy: HellRaisingHoosier: So a man can pay on items over 15 years and still not have any ownership. But if a man lives with a woman and child long enough then he legally has to pay child support to the mother.

Did I mess that up?

Why spend 15 years with someone and not marry them?


Why would I want to?

Two Hearted: You have to express your intent to have a common law marriage. That is, if it's recognized in your state in the first place.

That's the point. In Louisiana there is no common law marriage. It is not a legally recognized concept. Usually things that say common law in front of them we tend to avoid (or we find a latin word to use --> life estate = usufruct (very very roughly)).

Let's see if I can remember how to do basic probability...

Probability of getting a divorce = 50%
You have $X networth
A divorce = your networth is halved
Expected Utility = Probability * Value.

Therefore Expected Utility of Marriage = 50% * ($X/2) = $X / 4

Expected Utility of Not Getting Married = 100% * $X = $X

I can safely conclude that it would be retarded to get married WITHOUT a prenup.

thelordofcheese: biatch stole my video games and took all the good DVDs.
/not even kidding

Mine took the cats, and took the car. Title was in her name, but we'd been splitting the car payments as a household expense. Combined with the fact that when we moved in together, we paid off all of her credit card debt as a "household expense" to clear that high-interest loan off the books, and I figure that breakup cost me somewhere between 10 and 15 thousand dollars.

But I'm still bitter about my f*cking cats.

I'm confused how can you divorce someone you never legally married. The act of divorce requires the act of marriage.

Also men should never get married.

SweetSaws: Let's see if I can remember how to do basic probability...

Probability of getting a divorce = 50%
You have $X networth
A divorce = your networth is halved
Expected Utility = Probability * Value.

Therefore Expected Utility of Marriage = 50% * ($X/2) = $X / 4

Expected Utility of Not Getting Married = 100% * $X = $X

I can safely conclude that it would be retarded to get married WITHOUT a prenup.

well, don't know about other states, but your net worth does not enter the equation in LA. Only the gains while married, and they are split because she owns half of the fruits (just like you own half of hers). But, this only applies to gains while in a marital regime. Everything you came with to the marriage is yours beyond the marriage...

unless there's a whole lot of commingling. commingling can get your accounts in trouble.

/ commingling always gets a chuckle out of me.

pute kisses like a man: unless there's a whole lot of commingling. commingling can get your accounts in trouble.

I thought commingling was the whole point of marriage.

Either way, the womyn get all your money, property and 95% of the access to your children's minds to warp them further. It's an antiquated concept which only made sense when females were considered property. Now they want equal rights here and unequal rights there... sort of an ala carte approach to life/relationships.... 'I want THIS part, but I don't like THAT part...'

What was that pearl of wisdom?... 'if it flies, floats or farks - rent it'

Words of wisdom Lloyd,...
Words.
Of.
Wisdom.

Happy Couple : "We don't need no piece of paper to prove our love"

Unhappy Parnter A "I get half your stuff"

Unhappy Partner B "Oh yeah? Prove it!"

Maybe that piece of paper didnt prove your love but it sure as hell won't be proving you're owed half of anything....

MBooda: Wheat.
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I see what you did there. How much to rent your kids?

SweetSaws: Therefore Expected Utility of Marriage = 50% * ($X/2) = $X / 4

No, that's the expected cost for one factor. The expected utility would be $X/4+C where C is the added value of having a partner you love for years, often the partner brings wealth to the family as well, plus children, which could be valued more than all the money in the world.

So long as C is greater than or equal to three quarters X, you end up winning.

You know... a lot of women are finding themselves the breadwinners and are paying alimony or big divorce payouts, yet this is still some how a golddigging whore scenario. Got it.

Wow. There is a metric ton of misogyny goin' on in this thread.

Hate to burst your collective man-hurt bubbles, but I'm a family law attorney, and I can tell ya that claiming the man always gets the shaft is absolute bull. There are studies that back up the fact that women are disproportionally hurt by divorce.

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I'm proposing to my gf just to piss off her bitter ex. Heh.

If they were married and she is receiving alimony, your proposal will have him dancing in the streets!

Warlordtrooper: I'm confused how can you divorce someone you never legally married. The act of divorce requires the act of marriage.

Also men nobody should never get married.
Also men nobody should never get married.
Also men nobody should never get married.
Also men nobody should never get married.
Also men nobody should never get married.

Wellon Dowd: Why spend 15 years with someone and not marry them?

So I don't get half of everything I own given to someone who never worked that entire time, then get dinged for alimony/palimony on top, when the other person decides they need to find themselves or that they are just not happy.

eh, I kinda butchered that one, sorry!

netweavr: Nobody read the article, did they?

Either that or nobody's ever heard of Common Law Marriage.

Wellon Dowd: Because I don't want to be tied down, man.

It may not be your thing - but I recommend you try it at least once or twice.

KatjaMouse: You know... a lot of women are finding themselves the breadwinners and are paying alimony or big divorce payouts, yet this is still some how a golddigging whore scenario. Got it.

So then your even more opposed to alimony/palimony because its starting to mean that more men are getting alimony/palimony because they are not working and their girlfriend/wife is?

Virtue: Wellon Dowd: Why spend 15 years with someone and not marry them?

So I don't get half of everything I own given to someone who never worked that entire time, then get dinged for alimony/palimony on top, when the other person decides they need to find themselves or that they are just not happy.

Prenups are your friend (although they aren't ever ironclad)

Also, today's my anniversary, so :-p to you anti-marriage people. It may not be for everyone, but I've enjoyed the hell out of it.

HellRaisingHoosier: Bacon is Meat Candy: HellRaisingHoosier: So a man can pay on items over 15 years and still not have any ownership. But if a man lives with a woman and child long enough then he legally has to pay child support to the mother.

Did I mess that up?

Why spend 15 years with someone and not marry them?


Why would I want to?

Well, according the article, there are certain advantages to doing so. For example, getting to keep property you've been paying on for 15 years.

Bacon is Meat Candy: HellRaisingHoosier: So a man can pay on items over 15 years and still not have any ownership. But if a man lives with a woman and child long enough then he legally has to pay child support to the mother.

Did I mess that up?

Why spend 15 years with someone and not marry them?

Because 16 years might be one year too long.

Koalaesq: Prenups are your friend

Prenups are not worth the paper they are written on.

Koalaesq: Virtue: Wellon Dowd: Why spend 15 years with someone and not marry them?

So I don't get half of everything I own given to someone who never worked that entire time, then get dinged for alimony/palimony on top, when the other person decides they need to find themselves or that they are just not happy.

Prenups are your friend (although they aren't ever ironclad)

Also, today's my anniversary, so :-p to you anti-marriage people. It may not be for everyone, but I've enjoyed the hell out of it.

Happy anniversary! My 5th was last week.

A friend of mine is starting to make marriage noises with her boyfriend... my wife and I have already offered to draft the prenup. ;)