Subby owes me a keyboard.

I was never a fan of the Martin Baker seats. The ACES II has demonstrated a great track record.

/// use to be an ejection seat engineer

Well, Cheerio!

"Sorry lads. You'll have to eject the old fashioned way while in a flight. Open your window, crawl out, and fall. good luck"

I am forever scarred with that impossible moment from Die Hard II, where Bruce Willis ejects from the cargo plane miraculously unscathed. I know it was fake, and I know it's just a damned movie, but whenever I picture a seat ejection in my head, that's what I see.

Closely followed by the botch job from "Top Gun".

thespindrifter: Closely followed by the botch job from "Top Gun".

The entire plot of that film was worthless because F-14 aircraft carried up to 6 radar-guided missiles. Pick a target, tell it to fire, and move on to the next target. 3rd-generation guided missiles, fire-and-forget technology.

EAGLE RIVER!?!?!?


/oblig and not obscure
//didn't eat seconds

... aaand here's how the morons do it. (new window)

remus: I was never a fan of the Martin Baker seats. The ACES II has demonstrated a great track record.

/// use to be an ejection seat engineer

Heh. So it goes that there is no topic so esoteric that there isn't a Farker who's a subject matter expert.

remus: I was never a fan of the Martin Baker seats. The ACES II has demonstrated a great track record.

/// use to be an ejection seat engineer

Meet yer maker with Martin-Baker!

I did NOT do anything wrong. The hatch just BLEW. It was a GLITCH. It was a- a TECHNICAL MALFUNCTION!

/// movie was unforgivably dishonest about Grissom.

I read it out loud in my head and had a good chuckAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

wxgeek: remus: I was never a fan of the Martin Baker seats. The ACES II has demonstrated a great track record.

/// use to be an ejection seat engineer

Meet yer maker with Martin-Baker!

You owe me a new transponder and altimeter, you bastard!

Oh noes! Without those military aircraft in the air, how will great britain ever accomplish all the great things that are happening because all those mililitary aircraft are in the air? Well, I guess they could just put the cash directly on bonfires.

/ i am a huge fan of historical military aviation.
// as an economist, i can't think of a reason why Britain shouldn't simply never fly another military jet plane every again as of right now. they do nothing for national security or economic prosperity. nothing.

remus: /// use to be an ejection seat engineer

Looks like it was a problem with the MDC maybe, as a zero zero ejection itself should not be a problem?

OnlyM3
I did NOT do anything wrong. The hatch just BLEW. It was a GLITCH. It was a- a TECHNICAL MALFUNCTION!

/// movie was unforgivably dishonest about Grissom.


This.
Kraft & Slayton said that had he lived,Grissom would've been the 1st man on the moon.

Bomb Head Mohammed: Oh noes! Without those military aircraft in the air, how will great britain ever accomplish all the great things that are happening because all those mililitary aircraft are in the air? Well, I guess they could just put the cash directly on bonfires.

/ i am a huge fan of historical military aviation.
// as an economist, i can't think of a reason why Britain shouldn't simply never fly another military jet plane every again as of right now. they do nothing for national security or economic prosperity. nothing.

its just trainging flights thatbare grounded so no worries the money will still be spent

0/0 ejection seats, how the fark do they work?

CSB:
Playing a game of Jane's USAF. Learned you can't fly inverted at 30 feet, and survive ejection.
Also, thanks to Janes' ATF mission creator, learned B-2s don't launch from carriers very well.

rebelyell2006: thespindrifter: Closely followed by the botch job from "Top Gun".

The entire plot of that film was worthless because F-14 aircraft carried up to 6 radar-guided missiles. Pick a target, tell it to fire, and move on to the next target. 3rd-generation guided missiles, fire-and-forget technology.

Depends on the rules of engagment. If the clowns back in Virginia don't let you go weapons free until you've made a positive visual identification of the enemy, your 100 mile+ range missiles aren't much good. You're pretty much inside of minimums for even a sparrow launch. That leaves sidewinders and guns and manouvering.

Top Gun was filmed before AIM-120s were out and there were still a lot of unreliable AIM-7Es in the fleet. The Fs had just started coming out. Dogfighting was still a real choice, not just a last resort.

Not so CSB time:

We had a back seater (RIO) in F-4s accidentally eject himself to death on the ground. The seats have about 7 safety pins. They are all connected to each other by long fabric ribbons. They pull six of them out of the seat when the aircrew get in and stuff those six pins into a big bag that's also connected to all of the pins' ribbons. That bag goes on top of the seat with the one pin in the top of the seat still in place. That pin normally gets pulled and the whole bag stowed just before taxi.

The pilot was going through his post start up, pre flight checklist and the RIO was warming up his electronics. It started to rain so the RIO closed his canopy. Unfortunatley it came down on the pin bag and pushed the whole bag down beind the top of the seat, where all the works are.

The invesigators think what happened is the bag broke the safety cable between the seat and the canopy that's supposed to prevent the seat from firing if the canopy hasn't jettisoned. It also pulled a cable that initiated the seat. Since the canopy was still latched, the sequence wasn't complete.

The RIO opened the canopy which allowed the firing sequence to continue and it wasn't stopped by the presence of that cable between the canopy and seat; the seat fired. Since the canopy was only partly open the RIO hit the canopy structure which inflicted sever injuries. The seat continued up about a hundred feet and that's when the third malfunction occured.

The seat's parachute has what's called the "drogue gun" that functions at low altitude / low speed ejections. It is a barrel about a foot long with a lead slug in it. It's fired by a charge and that slug pulls the parachute out of the pack so it opens much faster. To bad if fired through the pin bag which stopped it and the parachute didn't open at all. The seat fell a hundred feet back to the ground.

The RIO broke everything that could be broken. He didn't die right away but he didn't linger long either.

Jim Panse: I don't see the malfunction. The seat did exactly what it was supposed to do.

Premature ejeculation.

remus: I was never a fan of the Martin Baker seats. The ACES II has demonstrated a great track record.

/// use to be an ejection seat engineer

Martin-Baker is still better than some Russian designs.


/I ride on L-39 seats.
//Would much rather manually bail over the side than launch in the seat.

wxgeek: remus: I was never a fan of the Martin Baker seats. The ACES II has demonstrated a great track record.

/// use to be an ejection seat engineer

Meet yer maker with Martin-Baker!

I haven't heard that phrase in a couple decades. Wow, does that bring back images.

Wait, so the pilot had a problem with premature ejection?

I'll be sure to keep an eye out in the next couple of weeks to see if there's an ejection seat TD that comes out.

Why thank you, Andre, I'll have the veal picotta

Bomb Head Mohammed: Oh noes! Without those military aircraft in the air, how will great britain ever accomplish all the great things that are happening because all those mililitary aircraft are in the air? Well, I guess they could just put the cash directly on bonfires.

/ i am a huge fan of historical military aviation.
// as an economist, i can't think of a reason why Britain shouldn't simply never fly another military jet plane every again as of right now. they do nothing for national security or economic prosperity. nothing.

they're liberating Libya so the French can buy/pump/refine Libyan oil

I can't decide which is a funnier sound effect. The Wilhelm Scream or the Goofy scream.

thespindrifter: Closely followed by the botch job from "Top Gun".

GOOOOOOOOOSE THE CANOPY!

You didn't get the whole quote after he ejected. He was saying it was an acciAAAAAAEEEEEEEEEIIIIIIIIOOOOOOUUUUUUUU and sometimes YYYYYYY!!!!