sammyk: unlikely: Battery life: 32.8 seconds.

um, about that......"As for Nvidia's chip, the company claims it will offer three times the graphic performance while offering 61 percent more battery life - meaning up to 12 hours of HD video playback on a single charge." and "Although touted as a quad-core processor, the chip also includes a fifth processing core that can be used in place of the four main cores to run devices in a lower power state."

Anandtech had an interesting article about it a while back. Seems to be a pretty neat design. When only background stuff is being done (checking email, updating widgets) the fifth core is used. And if I remember correctly it can selectively activate the cores as needed. Considering the thing is still made on a 40nm fab, the optimization will be badly needed.

If you're running all four cores on a 40nm fab though.....yea expect the battery to tank.

It's a tablet, not a phone.

sammyk: unlikely: Battery life: 32.8 seconds.

um, about that......"As for Nvidia's chip, the company claims it will offer three times the graphic performance while offering 61 percent more battery life - meaning up to 12 hours of HD video playback on a single charge." and "Although touted as a quad-core processor, the chip also includes a fifth processing core that can be used in place of the four main cores to run devices in a lower power state."

Fark everything, we're doing five cores.

As someone completed unhappy with the battery life of his LG Revolution...

I used to use an old flip phone. I'd charge it once a week. This thing has to be plugged in nightly, sometimes midday depending on what I'm up to.

unlikely: Battery life: 32.8 seconds.

Done

Is this a phone, or a tablet? The Transformer is a tablet.

But Quad Core phones are coming too, and I don't know why.

Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: sammyk: unlikely: Battery life: 32.8 seconds.

um, about that......"As for Nvidia's chip, the company claims it will offer three times the graphic performance while offering 61 percent more battery life - meaning up to 12 hours of HD video playback on a single charge." and "Although touted as a quad-core processor, the chip also includes a fifth processing core that can be used in place of the four main cores to run devices in a lower power state."

Anandtech had an interesting article about it a while back. Seems to be a pretty neat design. When only background stuff is being done (checking email, updating widgets) the fifth core is used. And if I remember correctly it can selectively activate the cores as needed. Considering the thing is still made on a 40nm fab, the optimization will be badly needed.

If you're running all four cores on a 40nm fab though.....yea expect the battery to tank.

What are the chances that Android will ever allow the chip to enter the low power state for any significant amount of time?

kingoomieiii: Grables'Daughter: I'm with you on this one, and I'll tell you why. I have never had good luck with the battery on any phone that I have owned. In fact, I'm posting this on my pho

And in its death throes, your phone sent off a POST message to Fark containing what you had entered into the editbox? That's a really considerate phone.

/hate this meme

I bet you don't believe in Candle Jack eith

kingoomieiii: Grables'Daughter: I'm with you on this one, and I'll tell you why. I have never had good luck with the battery on any phone that I have owned. In fact, I'm posting this on my pho

And in its death throes, your phone sent off a POST message to Fark containing what you had entered into the editbox? That's a really considerate phone.

/hate this meme

No, clearly what happened is that Candleja

Grables'Daughter: kingoomieiii: Grables'Daughter: I'm with you on this one, and I'll tell you why. I have never had good luck with the battery on any phone that I have owned. In fact, I'm posting this on my pho

And in its death throes, your phone sent off a POST message to Fark containing what you had entered into the editbox? That's a really considerate phone.

/hate this meme

It was a joke.

I was trying to make a joke.

See, the idea was that I was posting from my phone when the battery...

/never mind

It is located at the Castle of Aaaaarrrrrrggghhh...

I absolutely LOVE my Asus Transformer tablet... when it works, which right now it does not. For the second time I've got some kind of video card problem.

The screen lights up, but the image is all corrupted and weird. It seems like the video card or video controller or something is loose or broken. Sent it in to Asus once (their customer service was pretty awesome... 6 minute phone call, most of which was getting through the phone tree and then, "Yeah, that does sound like a problem. Send it right in."). When they returned it the screen was working fine again, but the note in the box said something along the lines of "tested, functioning properly, no problems, returning". I simply assumed that meant that they'd fixed the problem and then a final inspection cleared it.

I've got to call them and send it in again now, I just procrastinated today.

rob.d: Is this a phone, or a tablet? The Transformer is a tablet.

But Quad Core phones are coming too, and I don't know why.

umm...why not?

But will it do pron?

Quad core phones arrived? According to the article, not yet, but thanks for the headline...

INeedAName: As someone completed unhappy with the battery life of his LG Revolution...

I used to use an old flip phone. I'd charge it once a week. This thing has to be plugged in nightly, sometimes midday depending on what I'm up to.

Well yeah, and a moped uses less gas than a Ferrari. What do you expect?

timujin: dammit... My Verizon account is up for renewal, today actually. It's my last "New every two." I have been looking at a bunch of phones, but every time I find something decent, another announcement like this comes around.

I'd love to get the Droid 3, I have the original Droid and love the physical keyboard. But phones like the Rezound and the Nexus look gorgeous. Dammit, too many choices.

/CSB, yeah, but recommendations are welcome.

I can safely say the Galaxy Nexus and Rezound will both beat the hell out of the RAZR or Droid 3 (becaue Moto Blur sucks).

Galaxy Nexus will be totally stock, and pretty fast. But the hardware in that is lower than that in the Rezound. The Rezound will be dual 1.5Ghz and have the added benefit of HTC Sense.

I know manufacturer add-ins are a pretty divisive topic, but Sense is just so damn pretty. They really add a great deal to the phone, as well, with better e-mail apps and widgets widgets and a ton of other stuff. On the other hand Moto Blur doesn't really add anything useful or good over AOSP while bloating it. It doesn't even pretty it up enough that it's worth considering. Samsung on the other hand has Touchwiz, which adds only a little, but also doesn't bloat too much. Not that that's applicable to the stock Nexus. And AOSP itself makes a lot of people happy, but it's not pretty at all. It's incredibly bland. If you're fine with bland, either choice will make you happier than a Motorola. Get yourself Swype or SlideIT, and after a few weeks you'll wonder why you ever wanted a physical keyboard to begin with.

I am going from the Incredible to the Rezound. That should last me awhile.

Grables'Daughter: kingoomieiii: Grables'Daughter: I'm with you on this one, and I'll tell you why. I have never had good luck with the battery on any phone that I have owned. In fact, I'm posting this on my pho

And in its death throes, your phone sent off a POST message to Fark containing what you had entered into the editbox? That's a really considerate phone.

/hate this meme

It was a joke.

I was trying to make a joke.

See, the idea was that I was posting from my phone when the battery...

/never mind

Well.. this is probably why this guy has never been invited in ultrafa+++++++++++++++ *carrier lost*

imfallen_angel: Grables'Daughter: kingoomieiii: Grables'Daughter: I'm with you on this one, and I'll tell you why. I have never had good luck with the battery on any phone that I have owned. In fact, I'm posting this on my pho

And in its death throes, your phone sent off a POST message to Fark containing what you had entered into the editbox? That's a really considerate phone.

/hate this meme

It was a joke.

I was trying to make a joke.

See, the idea was that I was posting from my phone when the battery...

/never mind

Well.. this is probably why this guy has never been invited in ultrafa+++++++++++++++ *carrier lost*


For a small donation I'd be willing to sponsor him for a Fark Gold account.

Quantumbunny: timujin: dammit... My Verizon account is up for renewal, today actually. It's my last "New every two." I have been looking at a bunch of phones, but every time I find something decent, another announcement like this comes around.

I'd love to get the Droid 3, I have the original Droid and love the physical keyboard. But phones like the Rezound and the Nexus look gorgeous. Dammit, too many choices.

/CSB, yeah, but recommendations are welcome.

I can safely say the Galaxy Nexus and Rezound will both beat the hell out of the RAZR or Droid 3 (becaue Moto Blur sucks).

Galaxy Nexus will be totally stock, and pretty fast. But the hardware in that is lower than that in the Rezound. The Rezound will be dual 1.5Ghz and have the added benefit of HTC Sense.

I know manufacturer add-ins are a pretty divisive topic, but Sense is just so damn pretty. They really add a great deal to the phone, as well, with better e-mail apps and widgets widgets and a ton of other stuff. On the other hand Moto Blur doesn't really add anything useful or good over AOSP while bloating it. It doesn't even pretty it up enough that it's worth considering. Samsung on the other hand has Touchwiz, which adds only a little, but also doesn't bloat too much. Not that that's applicable to the stock Nexus. And AOSP itself makes a lot of people happy, but it's not pretty at all. It's incredibly bland. If you're fine with bland, either choice will make you happier than a Motorola. Get yourself Swype or SlideIT, and after a few weeks you'll wonder why you ever wanted a physical keyboard to begin with.

I am going from the Incredible to the Rezound. That should last me awhile.

I can't speak for the D3, but I thought the RAZR was using a similar form of UI to the Bionic - so it's not exactly MotoBlur, but it's not as clean as the Photon or X2's UI.

Grables'Daughter: unlikely: sammyk: As for Nvidia's chip, the company claims it will offer three times the graphic performance while offering 61 percent more battery life - meaning up to 12 hours of HD video playback on a single charge

Sure. I believe that. Like when the people sell you an "eight hour" laptop battery.

sammyk: Although touted as a quad-core processor, the chip also includes a fifth processing core that can be used in place of the four main cores to run devices in a lower power state.

Again, not buying it. Modern phones have had power control that took most of the components to a completely off state until they were called on to operate for like eight years. That technology isn't new, and I will remain a steadfast skeptic of its battery life until I hear from a normal everyday user that they actually get that life out of it.

I'm with you on this one, and I'll tell you why. I have never had good luck with the battery on any phone that I have owned. In fact, I'm posting this on my pho

What your pho might look like


/nóng

"Transformer Prime"?

sammyk: um, about that......"As for Nvidia's chip, the company claims it will offer three times the graphic performance while offering 61 percent more battery life - meaning up to 12 hours of HD video playback on a single charge."

You believe statistics about battery life in a press release? That's so cute.

AcneVulgaris: Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: sammyk: unlikely: Battery life: 32.8 seconds.

um, about that......"As for Nvidia's chip, the company claims it will offer three times the graphic performance while offering 61 percent more battery life - meaning up to 12 hours of HD video playback on a single charge." and "Although touted as a quad-core processor, the chip also includes a fifth processing core that can be used in place of the four main cores to run devices in a lower power state."

Anandtech had an interesting article about it a while back. Seems to be a pretty neat design. When only background stuff is being done (checking email, updating widgets) the fifth core is used. And if I remember correctly it can selectively activate the cores as needed. Considering the thing is still made on a 40nm fab, the optimization will be badly needed.

If you're running all four cores on a 40nm fab though.....yea expect the battery to tank.

What are the chances that Android will ever allow the chip to enter the low power state for any significant amount of time?

The chip is designed specifically for android. Also, the switching between cores is handled by hardware and is designed to be completely transparent to the OS. So the chances are extremely good that it will enter the low power state for a significant amount of time.

Mentalpatient87: INeedAName: As someone completed unhappy with the battery life of his LG Revolution...

I used to use an old flip phone. I'd charge it once a week. This thing has to be plugged in nightly, sometimes midday depending on what I'm up to.

Well yeah, and a moped uses less gas than a Ferrari. What do you expect?

I would expect that if the phone is just in standby, with no internets or GPS, etc running, that the battery would drain at the same rate. Your analogy is farkcical.

If I have a majestic mansion with lots and lots of wonderful eletronic toys, but only one lamp is turned on, I would expect the power consumption to be the same as if I had that same lamp plugged in in a one room hovel.

irishjihad: Mentalpatient87: INeedAName: As someone completed unhappy with the battery life of his LG Revolution...

I used to use an old flip phone. I'd charge it once a week. This thing has to be plugged in nightly, sometimes midday depending on what I'm up to.

Well yeah, and a moped uses less gas than a Ferrari. What do you expect?

I would expect that if the phone is just in standby, with no internets or GPS, etc running, that the battery would drain at the same rate. Your analogy is farkcical.

If I have a majestic mansion with lots and lots of wonderful eletronic toys, but only one lamp is turned on, I would expect the power consumption to be the same as if I had that same lamp plugged in in a one room hovel.

Your phone never has "no internets or GPS, etc" running. It is constantly syncing data.

/also, what kind of flip phone did you have? My old Samsung would manage 2 or 3 days on a charge at most.

imfallen_angel: Well.. this is probably why this guy has never been invited in ultrafa+++++++++++++++ *carrier lost*

Win.

Also, I Loooooooooove My Asus Transformer and will definately be buying the Prime with Quad-Core Tegra and Ice Cream on opening day.

I own an iPad, Viewsonic G-Tablet, HP Touchpad, and the Transformer, and overall, the Transformer wins.

(But the Touchpad WOULD win if I could get Kobo and Netflix on it. Damn you HP!!!!!)

BojanglesPaladin: imfallen_angel: Well.. this is probably why this guy has never been invited in ultrafa+++++++++++++++ *carrier lost*

Win.

Also, I Loooooooooove My Asus Transformer and will definately be buying the Prime with Quad-Core Tegra and Ice Cream on opening day.

I own an iPad, Viewsonic G-Tablet, HP Touchpad, and the Transformer, and overall, the Transformer wins.

(But the Touchpad WOULD win if I could get Kobo and Netflix on it. Damn you HP!!!!!)

Why so many tablets? What do you use them for?

I had a transformer for 4 days and couldn't find a use for it that my phone didn't do better.

But will it run Flash?

Arrived?
Where?
Where can I go to buy one?

That's right, this is a rumor stating they may announce a product shipping at some future date.
Other than that they have totally arrived.

dustlesswalnut: Why so many tablets? What do you use them for?

R&D. I'm an IT consultant/manager. No better way to understand how technology works than to work with technology. Kick the tires, drink the potion, etc. So when peole ask me about tablets, I can speak very knowledgeably and compare/contrast the upsides and downsides of the various mobile platforms when it come to ACTUALLY DOING WORK on them :) For instance, why can;t you mark an e-mail urgent on an iPad? How do you STOP your Touchpad from answering your Pre? which RDP clients are best on which platforms? Which Word editors, and why? It's the little gotchas that no review or marketing material will ever tell you. (I also have a Cruze and an Android rooted Nook. Plus 4-5 netbooks)

dustlesswalnut: I had a transformer for 4 days and couldn't find a use for it that my phone didn't do better.

Yeah. for a LOT of people, Tablets are a solution to a problem no one is having.

They are WAY over-hyped in terms of actual usefulness, especially in a business context. They are great for certain specific purposes, but there is one thing I always tell people asking about tablets: They do not do ANY particular thing that another device doesn't already do better. TV is better for movies, eReaders are better for books, smartphones are better for quick e-mail/texting, netbooks are better for mobile content creation, etc. etc.

But what a tablet DOES do well is a lot of particular things reasonably well on one device.

In my case, I like checking and responding to e-mail with the larger screen, (especially when there are attachments), I like reading the news of the day as I'm getting ready for work, I like e-books with the larger screen, I like being able to watch a movie while my wife sleeps. I like browsing the internet on the toilet, I like the games, I like having a day's worth of battery life. etc. (Notice not many of these are 'work related'?)

Mostly, for what I used to use a netbook, it does the same things, but it's INSTANT on, lighter weight and lasts longer.

But I see a lot of people get tablets because they are this amazing new way of doing things, only to realize within a week or two that they don't have much real use for it.

bingethinker: Aside from a few nerds creaming themselves over "quad cores", nobody cares. Most people don't know or care how many cores their phone has.

You do realize you are on the "Geek" section of Fark, right?

BojanglesPaladin: In my case, I like checking and responding to e-mail with the larger screen, (especially when there are attachments), I like reading the news of the day as I'm getting ready for work, I like e-books with the larger screen, I like being able to watch a movie while my wife sleeps. I like browsing the internet on the toilet, I like the games, I like having a day's worth of battery life. etc. (Notice not many of these are 'work related'?)

Mostly, for what I used to use a netbook, it does the same things, but it's INSTANT on, lighter weight and lasts longer.

Take away the "larger screen" aspect, and you've described my phone. It's a Thunderbolt, so maybe I don't desire a tablet because I'm already using a pretty big screen.

My wife has a Galaxy 10.1 that she uses to read PDF medical textbooks. That's the only real function I see it doing better than anything else, and I still think that $500 was too much to spend for that ability.