Drugs are illegal for a reason, kids. Stay away from them.

Marijuana and hallucinogens as well. Anyone with a family history of schizophrenia should stay away from drugs, at least until about age 25 when the brain has fully developed.

FIRST FIRST FIRST ahahahahahaha OH MY GOD I GOT IN FIRST god I'm hungry. You look hot.

/ Let's make out.

// Is it getting warm in here?

Schizophrenia is "voices in the head".

Schizophrenia is not Dissociative Identity Disorder (used to be called Multiple Personality Disorder)

At least I think that's what you were going for. Headline sounds more like an Alzheimer's joke than a D.I.D. joke.

--Carlos V.

Schizophrenia is "voices in the head".

So, do meth and you'll never be lonely.

Roses are red
Violets are blue
I'm a schizo and so am I

My uncle thought he was Saint Jerome.

Herb Utsmelz: unbelver: Schizophrenia is "voices in the head".

I came here to say that. GET OUT OF MY HEAD

Actually, schitzophrenia is a dissociation from fish, caused by a breakdown in penis, pancake delusions and Mr. President hallucinations and manifesting its Viagra as a breakdown speech in of STAY AWAY FROM MY BREAKFAST CEREAL.

/ You fat, beautiful whore.

Illegal drugs and mental disorders just don't mix. Why we still fund these studies and not something a little more productive, I don't know.

I would rather see a study done on how caffeine effects the mind long term? It would have more practical implications.

AverageAmericanGuy: Drugs are illegal for a reason, kids. Stay away from them.

Tell that to the psych that put me on 2 mg Ativan daily indefinitely at 14 yrs old. shiat is worse than heroin to get off of and takes much longer too.

Hobo Jr.: Illegal drugs and mental disorders just don't mix. Why we still fund these studies and not something a little more productive, I don't know.

I would rather see a study done on how caffeine effects the mind long term? It would have more practical implications.

Methamphetamine IS legal when prescribed by a doctor and IS prescribed precisely for mental disorders!

AverageAmericanGuy: Drugs are illegal for a reason, kids. Stay away from them.

That reason has nothing to do with the article however.

Schizophrenics and others with serious mental illness often self-medicate with the hardest street drugs they can get their hands on - usually crack or meth.

I think the chicken came before the egg in this case, if ya know what i mean.

Hobo Jr.: Illegal drugs and mental disorders just don't mix. Why we still fund these studies and not something a little more productive, I don't know.

I would rather see a study done on how caffeine effects the mind long term? It would have more practical implications.

No it wouldn't. You could show any effect you could dream of, and nobody would change their coffee routine.

Schizophrenia and meth addiction on the other hand are very expensive problems in need of solving.

swingerofbirches: Hobo Jr.: Illegal drugs and mental disorders just don't mix. Why we still fund these studies and not something a little more productive, I don't know.

I would rather see a study done on how caffeine effects the mind long term? It would have more practical implications.

Methamphetamine IS legal when prescribed by a doctor and IS prescribed precisely for mental disorders!

If you can tell me what mental disorder is treated with meth, I'll give you a cookie.

rockforever: AverageAmericanGuy: Drugs are illegal for a reason, kids. Stay away from them.

That reason has nothing to do with the article however.

Indeed. And let's not lump all drugs (or all users) together. Used to be a bit of a speed freak myself, in my younger days. It didn't make me rob, rape, beat, kill or rape anyone. And it didn't make me go crazy. I just had a good time and a lot of really hot sex. I slept every night, went to work every day and then stopped cold when I moved. It is possible to be a responsible user. I wouldn't advocate trying it, though.

you fellow farkers that dabble in the drugs that people consider minor: pot, mushrooms, lsd, ... will soon after be smoking sausage for the hit of meth you will need every day...

Interesting link below the article: Rugby jock says stroke turned him gay (new window)

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Also, don't click on the link for pics of "meth mouth".

*shudder*

Hobo Jr.: swingerofbirches: Hobo Jr.: Illegal drugs and mental disorders just don't mix. Why we still fund these studies and not something a little more productive, I don't know.

I would rather see a study done on how caffeine effects the mind long term? It would have more practical implications.

Methamphetamine IS legal when prescribed by a doctor and IS prescribed precisely for mental disorders!

If you can tell me what mental disorder is treated with meth, I'll give you a cookie.

ADHD, it's a developmental disorder.

Hobo Jr.: swingerofbirches: Hobo Jr.: Illegal drugs and mental disorders just don't mix. Why we still fund these studies and not something a little more productive, I don't know.

I would rather see a study done on how caffeine effects the mind long term? It would have more practical implications.

Methamphetamine IS legal when prescribed by a doctor and IS prescribed precisely for mental disorders!

If you can tell me what mental disorder is treated with meth, I'll give you a cookie.

Is this a trick question? ADHD, narcolepsy, obesity off the top of my head.

tbyte: Hobo Jr.: Illegal drugs and mental disorders just don't mix. Why we still fund these studies and not something a little more productive, I don't know.

I would rather see a study done on how caffeine effects the mind long term? It would have more practical implications.

No it wouldn't. You could show any effect you could dream of, and nobody would change their coffee routine.

Schizophrenia and meth addiction on the other hand are very expensive problems in need of solving.

Schizophrenia is a rare disorder and usually not on the level of "A beautiful mind" type hallucinations.

But meth, you are right, is awful and expensive to combat. I am all for drug enforcement if they would combat method more effectively. But at the same time, if you want to voluntarily do meth, I think the results help thin out the stupid people.

GreatGlavinsGhost: Interesting link below the article: Rugby jock says stroke turned him gay (new window)

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Also, don't click on the link for pics of "meth mouth".

*shudder*

shouldn't that link belong in the PENN STATE football thread?

As for the link between stimulants and "insanity," one obvious one from my own experience is sleep deprivation. Regardless of how you do it or why, staying awake for days on end is bad news for the brain; that's why they torture people at Gitmo by not letting them sleep. I'm sure overuse of meth does bad things with brain chemicals too (that I'm not adept enough to discuss intelligently), but I also know that my occasional manic or agitatedly depressive episodes are less intense and shorter when I can get some sleep -- and that not sleeping for 3 or 4 days from whatever cause can trigger one. That's why lots of tweakers use downers of some kind after they've been up a while, and why the shrink gave me a strongly sedating antipsychotic to knock myself out with when I'm getting too wack. And yes, there is a strong resemblance between mania and tweaking, and why I quit doing meth years ago.

Now go count some damn sheep!

jingks: Hobo Jr.: swingerofbirches: Hobo Jr.: Illegal drugs and mental disorders just don't mix. Why we still fund these studies and not something a little more productive, I don't know.

I would rather see a study done on how caffeine effects the mind long term? It would have more practical implications.

Methamphetamine IS legal when prescribed by a doctor and IS prescribed precisely for mental disorders!

If you can tell me what mental disorder is treated with meth, I'll give you a cookie.

ADHD, it's a developmental disorder.

I would avoid shrinks that feel that is the best or only choice for ADHD. So many more ways to treat it.

Hobo Jr.: tbyte: Hobo Jr.: Illegal drugs and mental disorders just don't mix. Why we still fund these studies and not something a little more productive, I don't know.

I would rather see a study done on how caffeine effects the mind long term? It would have more practical implications.

No it wouldn't. You could show any effect you could dream of, and nobody would change their coffee routine.

Schizophrenia and meth addiction on the other hand are very expensive problems in need of solving.

Schizophrenia is a rare disorder and usually not on the level of "A beautiful mind" type hallucinations.

But meth, you are right, is awful and expensive to combat. I am all for drug enforcement if they would combat method more effectively. But at the same time, if you want to voluntarily do meth, I think the results help thin out the stupid people.

Schizophrenia is not a rare disorder. Millions of cases in the US alone. And as long as it prevents people from getting jobs, or performing well at their jobs, it's very expensive.

And meth doesn't thin out the stupid people. It's not a drug like heroin where you OD and that's it, you're dead. Huge amounts of money are spent putting people in prison, etc.

Hobo Jr.: swingerofbirches: Hobo Jr.: Illegal drugs and mental disorders just don't mix. Why we still fund these studies and not something a little more productive, I don't know.

I would rather see a study done on how caffeine effects the mind long term? It would have more practical implications.

Methamphetamine IS legal when prescribed by a doctor and IS prescribed precisely for mental disorders!

If you can tell me what mental disorder is treated with meth, I'll give you a cookie.

Is this a trick question? ADHD, narcolepsy, obesity off the top of my head.

Actually, the drugs used to treat ADHD and narcolepsy are amphetamines, such as Ritalin and Adderall. Methamphetamine has a slightly different chemical makeup and is considered too dangerous to prescribe as regular medicine, although it used to be a big hit in the '50s.

/narcoleptic

What_Would_Jimi_Do: GreatGlavinsGhost: Interesting link below the article: Rugby jock says stroke turned him gay (new window)

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Also, don't click on the link for pics of "meth mouth".

*shudder*

shouldn't that link belong in the PENN STATE football thread?

Child molesters are more likely to be straight than gay, so no.

w0rldviolation: Hobo Jr.: swingerofbirches: Hobo Jr.: Illegal drugs and mental disorders just don't mix. Why we still fund these studies and not something a little more productive, I don't know.

I would rather see a study done on how caffeine effects the mind long term? It would have more practical implications.

Methamphetamine IS legal when prescribed by a doctor and IS prescribed precisely for mental disorders!

If you can tell me what mental disorder is treated with meth, I'll give you a cookie.

Is this a trick question? ADHD, narcolepsy, obesity off the top of my head.

Actually, the drugs used to treat ADHD and narcolepsy are amphetamines, such as Ritalin and Adderall. Methamphetamine has a slightly different chemical makeup and is considered too dangerous to prescribe as regular medicine, although it used to be a big hit in the '50s.

/narcoleptic

Nope. Still FDA approved for ADHD and obesity, still used to treat narcolepsy. I never said it was the only drug for each of those three, that's a different issue altogether.

w0rldviolation: Actually, the drugs used to treat ADHD and narcolepsy are amphetamines, such as Ritalin and Adderall. Methamphetamine has a slightly different chemical makeup and is considered too dangerous to prescribe as regular medicine, although it used to be a big hit in the '50s.

I don't know how common Desoxyn prescriptions are, but they do exist.

i would vouch for this-
have tried meth-
snorted it, initial buz (9-12 hours) is euphoric to say the least-
then no sleep (this is at 24h mark), then u either take more, or wait it out, and recover-
after 1 day no sleep, u begin to slightly hallucinate, even without the drug, with it, those peripheral hallucinations intensify
i never went over 24 hours, but had friends that did
they became extremely paranoid, and i think, were entering a psychotic state
ya it's a bad, bad, bad, drug.

TFA: Can crystal meth cause madness?



Nope, it's good for you.

Forget the schizophrenia, this is what meth will get you. That or you'll be making sweet love to something close to this or worse.

It's weird how peoples' brains are wired differently. I can take Ritalin and take a nap. If I have caffeine, it gives me the jitters and keeps me awake. Years ago, someone gave me something with Sudafed in it when I was sick and I was up for days. I was a mess. Nowadays it's kept behind the counter because some people can use it to make meth. I can't take the stuff.

Tergiversada: It's weird how peoples' brains are wired differently. I can take Ritalin and take a nap. If I have caffeine, it gives me the jitters and keeps me awake. Years ago, someone gave me something with Sudafed in it when I was sick and I was up for days. I was a mess. Nowadays it's kept behind the counter because some people can use it to make meth. I can't take the stuff.

THIS. ADHD brains are wired backwards. Alcohol makes me hyper. Benadryl wakes me up.

Make More Hinjews: Herb Utsmelz: unbelver: Schizophrenia is "voices in the head".

I came here to say that. GET OUT OF MY HEAD

Actually, schitzophrenia is a dissociation from fish, caused by a breakdown in penis, pancake delusions and Mr. President hallucinations and manifesting its Viagra as a breakdown speech in of STAY AWAY FROM MY BREAKFAST CEREAL.

/ You fat, beautiful whore.

I thought that was schlitzophrenia?

What_Would_Jimi_Do: you fellow farkers that dabble in the drugs that people consider minor: pot, mushrooms, lsd, ... will soon after be smoking sausage for the hit of meth you will need every day...

Is it that bad when you compare it to the alternative - a beer gut and an office job?

/used to dabble
//has beer gut and office job
///shoot me now

In the late 90's, I had tried it a few times. I don't know why I did it again after the first time, because four days with no sleep, not being able to turn my head because my neck was so stiff, and thinking people were surrounding the house and hiding in the duct work, was so much damn fun.

They looked specifically at abusers of meth, marijuana, alcohol, cocaine, and opioid painkillers like OxyContin and Vicodin and compared these patients with a control group of appendicitis patients who didn't abuse drugs..."We found that people hospitalized for methamphetamine dependence who did not have a diagnosis of schizophrenia or psychotic symptoms at the start of our study period had an approximately 1.5 to 3.0-fold risk of subsequently being diagnosed with schizophrenia, compared with groups of patients who used cocaine, alcohol or opioid drugs," study author Dr. Russ Callaghan.

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So, why mention marijuana if it technically isn't used in the study?



/"This reminds me of my favorite joke. I'm a schizophrenic...and so am I" ~What about Bob

unbelver: Schizophrenia is "voices in the head".

Schizophrenia is not Dissociative Identity Disorder (used to be called Multiple Personality Disorder)

At least I think that's what you were going for. Headline sounds more like an Alzheimer's joke than a D.I.D. joke.

--Carlos V.

How do you discern a difference between Schizophrenia and Telepathy?
You don't. Telepathy doesn't exist.
Or so you are told.

Good luck entering the land of telepathy while not believing you are becoming schizophrenic.
Why is evolution slowing down?
Shut up and stay in the box we painted for you.

AverageAmericanGuy: Drugs are illegal for a reason, kids. Stay away from them.



Pot. It's like meth, except it is less useful than amphetamines (which is in quite a few ADD/ADHD medications).

Country Member: TFA: Can crystal meth cause madness?

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Nope, it's good for you.

I read that in Walter White's voice.

unbelver: Schizophrenia is "voices in the head".

One of the most iconic symptoms of schizophrenia is voices in the head. Auditory hallucinations don't necessarily mean someone has schizophrenia, but I don't believe they're associated with any other condition.

But you can have schizophrenia and never have voices in the head, either.

Check out The Early Symptoms of Schizophrenia. It talks about many of the early signs of disorganized schizophrenia, the sort of severe schizophrenia that shows up in young (young for schizophrenia, i.e. late teens, early twenties) people.

"Things go too quick for my mind. Everything is too fast and too big for me-too quick to study. Things get blurred and it's like being blind. I can't make them out clearly. It's as if you were seeing one picture one minute and another picture the next. I just stop and watch my feet. If I move, everything alters every minute and I have no control over my legs. My. legs are too quick for the top half of my body-it's my head that's weak. I followed the sun and it seemed to drive me along. The sun seemed too big for me and it was coming closer. Everything else seemed to be coming closer and bigger all the time. I tried to make the air turn back. It was frightening. That was a long time ago-last year."

/This is what a schizophrenic actually said.
//Not me, the quote above.

You better hope there's some Thorazine in that bag, because if there's not, you're in bad trouble...

/I am Ahab

GreatGlavinsGhost: Interesting link below the article: Rugby jock says stroke turned him gay


Rugby Jock? Izzat our Rugby Jock? The dude with the interesting photoshop proclivities? He hasn't been here in ages.