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St_Francis_P

2011-11-08 01:21:51 PM

A man big enough to run for president should be big enough to have a full and candid press conference on all of this -- he wants us to elect him president after all, he's asking us to trust our lives and the country's life to him. This could be one of his finest moments and it could be one of his worst. But either way, he must confront the moment candidly and manfully.

That said, I'll settle for more evasions, as long as they're amusing.

gilgigamesh

2011-11-08 01:35:11 PM

Yeah, gotta say it is far more entertaining watching Cain taunting the dynamite monkey by alternately bullying, threatening and running from the press as they as him about this.

I think he should keep doing that.

Diogenes

2011-11-08 01:46:03 PM

gilgigamesh: Yeah, gotta say it is far more entertaining watching Cain taunting the dynamite monkey by alternately bullying, threatening and running from the press as they as him about this.

I think he should keep doing that.

In all honesty, I think it's working for him. If this hadn't happened he'd be polling down around Gingrich by now.

The sheer number of women coming out of the woodwork is interesting. He's either a huge poon dawg or some of them have to be false or trumped up. That's alot of pissed off women.

gilgigamesh

2011-11-08 01:58:10 PM

Diogenes: In all honesty, I think it's working for him. If this hadn't happened he'd be polling down around Gingrich by now.

The sheer number of women coming out of the woodwork is interesting. He's either a huge poon dawg or some of them have to be false or trumped up. That's alot of pissed off women.

It can't work for him forever. Clinton managed to weather this crisis by going on TV holding his wife's hand, and convincingly lying to the American public. Cain is currently doing his best impression of a wounded and flailing harbor seal in front of the sea full of sharks that is the Washington press.

impaler

2011-11-08 02:02:04 PM

gilgigamesh: Yeah, gotta say it is far more entertaining watching Cain taunting the dynamite monkey by alternately bullying, threatening and running from the press as they as him about this.

I think he should keep doing that.

The press are like a predatory animal. You stop, look them straight in the eye, you can manage to scare them off, but if you run away, their prey drive kicks in and they will give chase.

Diogenes

2011-11-08 02:04:41 PM

gilgigamesh: It can't work for him forever.

Definitely not. I don't know why it has for this long.

dogdaze

2011-11-08 02:48:47 PM

That wooshing sound you hear isn't the asteroid passing overhead, it's the wind slipping out of Herman Cain's sails.

2wolves

2011-11-08 02:51:50 PM

gilgigamesh: Diogenes: In all honesty, I think it's working for him. If this hadn't happened he'd be polling down around Gingrich by now.

The sheer number of women coming out of the woodwork is interesting. He's either a huge poon dawg or some of them have to be false or trumped up. That's alot of pissed off women.

It can't work for him forever. Clinton managed to weather this crisis by going on TV holding his wife's hand, and convincingly lying to the American public. Cain is currently doing his best impression of a wounded and flailing harbor seal in front of the sea full of sharks that is the Washington press.

You saw Mr. Clinton being a lawyer. Technically he didn't have sex with Ms. Lewinsky as there was no possibility of procreation.

Philip Francis Queeg

2011-11-08 02:58:05 PM

I hear Bill Bennett has 10 large down with his bookie that Romney to win the nomination.

gilgigamesh

2011-11-08 03:04:58 PM

2wolves: You saw Mr. Clinton being a lawyer. Technically he didn't have sex with Ms. Lewinsky as there was no possibility of procreation.

No, I am talking about early in the 1992 campaign. Gennifer Flowers came out and gave a press conference detailing their dozen or so years boinking, and Clinton went on TV and successfully bullshat the public, with his loving wife at his side, to emphatically state that it was lies, all lies.

Even though the allegations cost him the NH primary, he still went on to win the nomination and of course the white house. And that's because he faced the allegations head on, and successfully lied his frikking ass off.

vernonFL

2011-11-08 03:09:05 PM

Always bet on black

CPennypacker

2011-11-08 03:36:02 PM

I'm starting to wonder if Cain harassed me at this point. Statistically, my chances keep growing.

scavenger

2011-11-08 03:36:21 PM

"biatch set me up"

HeartBurnKid

2011-11-08 03:37:22 PM

FTFA: It is hypocritical in the extreme for those members of the media who didn't take the charges and allegations against Bill Clinton seriously to be taking the allegations against Herman Cain that we now have as seriously as they are. Hypocritical is probably too soft a word, frankly.

Which members of the media are those, exactly? The ones in your head?

FFS, Clinton's sex scandals were national news every time they happened, on the front pages of every rag in the country and 24/7 on CNN.

IXI Jim IXI

2011-11-08 03:37:46 PM

Odds are, he's right.

monoski

2011-11-08 03:37:56 PM

RINO

Jake Havechek

2011-11-08 03:39:52 PM

"Gamblin" Bill Bennett? Ya don't say.

PanicMan

2011-11-08 03:40:35 PM

gilgigamesh: Yeah, gotta say it is far more entertaining watching Cain taunting the dynamite monkey by alternately bullying, threatening and running from the press as they as him about this.

I think he should keep doing that.

It would have been so easy to brush the initial story aside. You just say that yes the accusation happened, you don't feel it was legitimate. Also the company decided to make a payout out of fear of negative publicity, you were not involved in that decision. It was a difficult time and you'd like to put it behind you for the sake of your family and stick to the pressing issues of today.

See? Not so hard.

Jacobin

2011-11-08 03:40:39 PM

Bill "DoubleDown" Bennett?

The slot machine whore?

Yes. A talking head everyone should listen to.

/waiting for more bimbo eruptions

Pinner

2011-11-08 03:41:53 PM

Cain is going to lose it soon. He's gonna be the angry black man. Live.
...wait for it...

A Dark Evil Omen

2011-11-08 03:42:03 PM

PanicMan: gilgigamesh: Yeah, gotta say it is far more entertaining watching Cain taunting the dynamite monkey by alternately bullying, threatening and running from the press as they as him about this.

I think he should keep doing that.

It would have been so easy to brush the initial story aside. You just say that yes the accusation happened, you don't feel it was legitimate. Also the company decided to make a payout out of fear of negative publicity, you were not involved in that decision. It was a difficult time and you'd like to put it behind you for the sake of your family and stick to the pressing issues of today.

See? Not so hard.

Yes, but you're talking about the man who coined the word Ubeckibeckibeckistan and thinks that a 9-for-9 pizza deal is the solution to America's economic problems. Clearly, we're not exactly talking about the second coming of JFK here.

HotWingConspiracy

2011-11-08 03:42:42 PM

HeartBurnKid: FTFA: It is hypocritical in the extreme for those members of the media who didn't take the charges and allegations against Bill Clinton seriously to be taking the allegations against Herman Cain that we now have as seriously as they are. Hypocritical is probably too soft a word, frankly.

Which members of the media are those, exactly? The ones in your head?

FFS, Clinton's sex scandals were national news every time they happened, on the front pages of every rag in the country and 24/7 on CNN.

That's the fresh talking point - the media ignored Clinton's affair.

The media is liberal, after all.

BSABSVR

2011-11-08 03:42:55 PM

Diogenes: Definitely not. I don't know why it has for this long.

Three factors:
1) .The mindset: If the liberal media reports it, it must be a lie.
2). The idea that "our" guy is under attack and we need to rally around him.
3). Sexual harassment is just PC thuggery that keeps bros from being bros in the workplace. Stupid sensitive women.

The GOP voters can go quite a ways riding these three factors. They just can't do it forever, and they can't make that appeal to the mushy middle.

RevLovejoy

2011-11-08 03:43:08 PM

If you let him harass you it's YOUR OWN DAMN FAULT!

A Dark Evil Omen

2011-11-08 03:43:40 PM

HotWingConspiracy: HeartBurnKid: FTFA: It is hypocritical in the extreme for those members of the media who didn't take the charges and allegations against Bill Clinton seriously to be taking the allegations against Herman Cain that we now have as seriously as they are. Hypocritical is probably too soft a word, frankly.

Which members of the media are those, exactly? The ones in your head?

FFS, Clinton's sex scandals were national news every time they happened, on the front pages of every rag in the country and 24/7 on CNN.

That's the fresh talking point - the media ignored Clinton's affair.

The media is liberal, after all.

The media ignored the Clinton scandal! We've always been at war with Derpasia!

LarryDan43

2011-11-08 03:44:56 PM

Cainer invented the big sausage pizza.

tricycleracer

2011-11-08 03:45:06 PM

HotWingConspiracy: That's the fresh talking point - the media ignored Clinton's affair.

Whoa whoa whoa. Hillary cheated on Bill? Why was this story buried?

Damn Liebral Lamestream MSM Mainstream Media Media.

scavenger

2011-11-08 03:46:10 PM

Wait, what's this about a Bill Clinton sex scandal? First I've heard of it.

Fuggin Bizzy

2011-11-08 03:47:01 PM

St_Francis_P: A man big enough to run for president should be big enough to have a full and candid press conference on all of this -- he wants us to elect him president after all, he's asking us to trust our lives and the country's life to him. This could be one of his finest moments and it could be one of his worst. But either way, he must confront the moment candidly and manfully.

That said, I'll settle for more evasions, as long as they're amusing.

Hey, you're just in this for the lulz, aren't you?!

/So am I. Carry on.

wmoonfox

2011-11-08 03:49:56 PM

You can try to color yourself as an unbiased observer until you run the world dry of paint, but anyone who even suggests that the media went easy on Clinton during his sex scandal immediately outs him/herself out as a partisan hack. Over. Done. Finito.

The Dog Ate My Homework

2011-11-08 03:50:32 PM

Personally I think it's a MUCH bigger deal that Cain presided over a company that makes the absolute worst pizza in the history of mankind, yet he's proud of that "achievement." Do you really want someone who can't even run a pizza company running this country?

Disposable Rob

2011-11-08 03:51:14 PM

gilgigamesh: Diogenes: In all honesty, I think it's working for him. If this hadn't happened he'd be polling down around Gingrich by now.

The sheer number of women coming out of the woodwork is interesting. He's either a huge poon dawg or some of them have to be false or trumped up. That's alot of pissed off women.

It can't work for him forever. Clinton managed to weather this crisis by going on TV holding his wife's hand, and convincingly lying to the American public. Cain is currently doing his best impression of a wounded and flailing harbor seal in front of the sea full of sharks that is the Washington press.

It doesn't help that the more he talks about two of the women, the more it opens them up to being able to come out and say exactly what happened.

Mr_Fabulous

2011-11-08 03:52:43 PM

BSABSVR: Diogenes: Definitely not. I don't know why it has for this long.

Three factors:
1) .The mindset: If the liberal media reports it, it must be a lie.
2). The idea that "our" guy is under attack and we need to rally around him.
3). Sexual harassment is just PC thuggery that keeps bros from being bros in the workplace. Stupid sensitive women.

Exactly.

Everything -- and I mean EVERYTHING -- in modern politics is about crafting bullshiat narratives. And this tawdry spectacle actually plays right into this guy's wheelhouse.

HotWingConspiracy

2011-11-08 03:54:07 PM

scavenger: Wait, what's this about a Bill Clinton sex scandal? First I've heard of it.

Yeah I dunno. He went white water rafting with Martin Landau or something. They sang "Devil In A Blue Dress", and Bill lost his cigar in a thicket. Huge scandal at the time, but the press just wouldn't touch it.

tricycleracer

2011-11-08 03:54:15 PM

The Dog Ate My Homework: Personally I think it's a MUCH bigger deal that Cain presided over a company that makes the absolute worst pizza in the history of mankind, yet he's proud of that "achievement." Do you really want someone who can't even run a pizza company running this country?

Say what you will, but they're the best gas station-based pizza chain I know of.

/That's not saying much.
//I'd rather eat a Totino's.

s2s2s2

2011-11-08 03:54:40 PM

Because we know not divulging the documentation is a sufficient cause for doubting one's claims.

WizardofToast

2011-11-08 03:56:51 PM

tricycleracer: HotWingConspiracy: That's the fresh talking point - the media ignored Clinton's affair.

Whoa whoa whoa. Hillary cheated on Bill? Why was this story buried?

Damn Liebral Lamestream MSM Mainstream Media Media.

Apparently he was trialed for impeachment for lying about it! Why did I not hear of this until now?!

wmoonfox

2011-11-08 03:58:31 PM

HotWingConspiracy: Bill lost his cigar in a thicket.

Oh, that's bad...

Skleenar

2011-11-08 03:58:50 PM

ha.........another lib jumps on the pig pile

lol...............

coeyagi

2011-11-08 04:00:45 PM

But does he think that enough to make a Christmas book about it?

CorporatePerson

2011-11-08 04:01:07 PM

There's really no need. The conservative ethos is you can pretty much do whatever you want to another person, so long as you get rich doing it.

WizardofToast

2011-11-08 04:04:52 PM

CorporatePerson: There's really no need. The conservative ethos is you can pretty much do whatever you want to another person, so long as you get rich doing it.

Do whatever you want to another person as long as people can't do anything to you.

s2s2s2

2011-11-08 04:06:07 PM

WizardofToast: CorporatePerson: There's really no need. The conservative ethos is you can pretty much do whatever you want to another person, so long as you get rich doing it.

Do whatever you want to another person as long as people can't do anything to you.

TL: Don't Get Caught...hmmm also too long. CYA, BICHIS!

BalugaJoe

2011-11-08 04:06:11 PM

Cain wants to give you a stimulus package.

Summer Glau's Love Slave

2011-11-08 04:09:41 PM

"I hear that there are a few who have made allegations against me, and you may rest assured that I WILL confront these alligators!" ~ Herman Cain

impaler: The press are like a predatory animal. You stop, look them straight in the eye, you can manage to scare them off, but if you run away, their prey drive kicks in and they will give chase.

Similes; how do they work? Substitute the phrase "predatory animal" with "Grizzly Bear" and read it again.

/The press is like a venue of Vultures.
//At first, they just circle you.
//And sometimes they don't wait till you're dead before they begin consuming you.

s2s2s2

2011-11-08 04:10:36 PM

BalugaJoe: Cain wants to give you a stimulus package.

It's working for Gloria.

UberNeuman

2011-11-08 04:14:42 PM

WizardofToast

2011-11-08 04:15:47 PM

UberNeuman: [home.comcast.net image 640x512]

Five since this morning.

gaspode

2011-11-08 04:17:00 PM

Got to love articles that go 'CLINTON CLINTON CLINTON!.._{and herman should deal with it better}

Clinton was 15 years ago.. no-one farking cares.

Herman should not handle the publicity better, he should quit NOW before it gets worse and worse, cause DAMN this guy is done.

WizardofToast

2011-11-08 04:18:18 PM

gaspode: Got to love articles that go 'CLINTON CLINTON CLINTON!..and herman should deal with it better

Clinton was 15 years ago.. no-one farking cares.

Herman should not handle the publicity better, he should quit NOW before it gets worse and worse, cause DAMN this guy is done.

But Ted Kennedy!

We might as well run with counterarguments of things that happened long ago and already got their media coverage.

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