I'd listen to the woman, Moffat. She knows what she's talking about.

And what better way to start off the season?

At least it would kill of the farking BBCAmerica "Amy Pond Story" intro.

I like her, I always have. She was fairly awesome this past half series on several different occasions, sure the intro is dumb, but that's not her fault.

I'm way behind, but I like Amy Pond. Way smarter and less annoying than Rose, and easy on the eyes

FirstNationalBastard: I'd listen to the woman, Moffat. She knows what she's talking about.

And what better way to start off the season?

surprise, surprise.

WaltzingMathilda: FirstNationalBastard: I'd listen to the woman, Moffat. She knows what she's talking about.

And what better way to start off the season?

surprise, surprise.

Y'know, it was the incessant Amy Pond love from fanboys that helped contribute to my attitude.

Sure, BBCA didn't help matters, but the fanboys were worse than BBCA.

/never did watch the second half of season 6. Between part 1 being the Amy Pond Show and BBCA's butchery, I figured I'll get to it when the DVDs come out in a couple weeks.

FirstNationalBastard: And what better way to start off the season?

They already killed off the Doctor in the first episode.

Kill off Amy Pond in a special episode shown at 2:35 AM with no advanced warning. There's the twist for you.

FirstNationalBastard: never did watch the second half of season 6

You missed out, it was pretty damned good.

After this series, she and Rory were supposed to be done as full time companions. They did not reup their contracts. So they said......
I don't think Pond should die. I think what they already did with their future was good.
Yes, I got to absolutely hate her, but then towards the end, when it was no longer Amyganger, the character changed again and she was likeable. Amywhowaited was the best though.

FirstNationalBastard: WaltzingMathilda: FirstNationalBastard: I'd listen to the woman, Moffat. She knows what she's talking about.

And what better way to start off the season?

surprise, surprise.

Y'know, it was the incessant Amy Pond love from fanboys that helped contribute to my attitude.

Sure, BBCA didn't help matters, but the fanboys were worse than BBCA.

/never did watch the second half of season 6. Between part 1 being the Amy Pond Show and BBCA's butchery, I figured I'll get to it when the DVDs come out in a couple weeks.

nearly every series has a controversial character that people love or hate. why get so hung up on one? and why let what fans think dictate your attitude toward a character?

for me, some of the things people loved most about amy were things i found ridiculous. people went gaga over that Samurai Amy episode and that episode made me want to break my television and never watch the show again. but overall, she's a fairly noncontroversial character. i mean, her work in the weeping angels 2 part episode was great, as an example.

mitchcumstein1: FirstNationalBastard: never did watch the second half of season 6

You missed out, it was pretty damned good.

Oh, I'm definitely picking up the full season DVDs in a couple weeks. But BBCA's window boxed, SD, chopped for commercials, Amy Pond Show intro presentation for the first half was shiat, so it wasn't a priority to watch first run, especially since the discs were already announced for a little under a month after the season ended.

cretinbob: After this series, she and Rory were supposed to be done as full time companions. They did not reup their contracts. So they said......
I don't think Pond should die. I think what they already did with their future was good.
Yes, I got to absolutely hate her, but then towards the end, when it was no longer Amyganger, the character changed again and she was likeable. Amywhowaited was the best though.

The season ender can easily be the last we see of them. I like them but if there were ever a time to jump ship, it would be now. Killing off Amy is just a bad, bad idea. Not just for fans, but can you imagine how devastated Rory would be? God, that would even break *my* heart.

mitchcumstein1: I like her, I always have. She was fairly awesome this past half series on several different occasions, sure the intro is dumb, but that's not her fault.

Gig103: I'm way behind, but I like Amy Pond. Way smarter and less annoying than Rose, and easy on the eyes

Indeed. She's certainly a better companion than Rose or Donna. Not as bright as Martha, but since she doesn't sit there mooning over the Doctor she's better.

cretinbob: After this series, she and Rory were supposed to be done as full time companions. They did not reup their contracts. So they said......
I don't think Pond should die. I think what they already did with their future was good.
Yes, I got to absolutely hate her, but then towards the end, when it was no longer Amyganger, the character changed again and she was likeable. Amywhowaited was the best though.

Eh, Amywhowaited was alright, but that episode was more important for Rory than for Amy.

brigid_fitch: The season ender can easily be the last we see of them. I like them but if there were ever a time to jump ship, it would be now. Killing off Amy is just a bad, bad idea. Not just for fans, but can you imagine how devastated Rory would be? God, that would even break *my* heart.

When Rory's heart breaks, the Universe cries with him.

Amy is the Doctor's mother in law. She should at least have a few scenes where she does something mother in law ish

PanicMan: ... Rory blames the Doctor, Rory becomes a new villain??

... OK, I change my vote. This would be somewhat awesome.

PanicMan: brigid_fitch: The season ender can easily be the last we see of them. I like them but if there were ever a time to jump ship, it would be now. Killing off Amy is just a bad, bad idea. Not just for fans, but can you imagine how devastated Rory would be? God, that would even break *my* heart.

... Rory blames the Doctor, Rory becomes a new villain??

one annoying thing about these two companions is how they always blame the doctor so this wouldn't be that far fetched.

/these people voluntarily get in a box to travel through not only space, but time, with an alien they barely know, and then blame him every single time something appears to not go their way
//oh, it's your fault they stole my time lord baby
///even though i wouldn't even have a time lord baby if you hadn't come along

rickycal78: Exception Collection: Indeed. She's certainly a better companion than Rose or Donna.

FTFY
Donna was the best of the companions since the reboot. Yeah she started out rocky with the Christmas special where she was annoying, but she got better.

Amy has her moments, but Moffat went a bit too far with her and made her too special and central to the show. It's time to let her go.

there were great episodes in the donna era, but she was an oafish, loudmouthed ape. i know why many people love her, but she always grated on me.

rickycal78: Exception Collection: Indeed. She's certainly a better companion than Rose or Donna.

FTFY
Donna was the best of the companions since the reboot. Yeah she started out rocky with the Christmas special where she was annoying, but she got better.

Amy has her moments, but Moffat went a bit too far with her and made her too special and central to the show. It's time to let her go.

also, if amy is too special, doesn't that make doctor donna too too special, therefore making her behind amy in the heirarchy of good companions?

"everything it's you donna. it always brings me back to you!" - not a direct quote, but a paraphrase of the entire donna era.

mitchcumstein1: FirstNationalBastard: never did watch the second half of season 6

You missed out, it was pretty damned good.

this

It tied together the whole series. Yes, some things were obvious, yes there are still unanswered questions

rickycal78: Exception Collection: Indeed. She's certainly a better companion than Rose or Donna.

FTFY
Donna was the best of the companions since the reboot. Yeah she started out rocky with the Christmas special where she was annoying, but she got better.

Amy has her moments, but Moffat went a bit too far with her and made her too special and central to the show. It's time to let her go.

I re-watched the Donna Noble Xmas intro, and after seeing her in the final Tennant season, it put things in context. The first time I saw it, I thought she was irritating. The second time, I thought the episode set the whole character of Donna up nicely.

Amy Pond has been great; I don't get the fanboy rage. I was happy they got the "lusting after the doctor" bit out of the way early, and I think Rory is one of the best companions out there. Keep 'em around for a few seasons, but don't focus as much only on Amy. Bring in more Rory and then have him make the ultimate decision to stop travels. Have Amy decide to stay with him, and the poor bastard can finally feel loved.

WaltzingMathilda: there were great episodes in the donna era, but she was an oafish, loudmouthed ape. i know why many people love her, but she always grated on me.

Yeah... Donna had issues. My favorite episode from her tenure? Midnight - the episode with almost no Donna.

Surool: Won't happen. Rory is obviously immortal.

Rory isn't immortal. It's just that the Grim Reaper's too scared to go near him.

As lovely as Karen Gillan is, and that adjective doesnt do her justice, amy pond is a good to mediocre companion. Rory>Donna>Jack>River>Amy>Martha>Rose.

And now for no reason, hipster rory time.

cretinbob: mitchcumstein1: FirstNationalBastard: never did watch the second half of season 6

You missed out, it was pretty damned good.

this

It tied together the whole series. Yes, some things were obvious, yes there are still unanswered questions

Oh, I'm gonna watch it. But I'd rather pay for the uncut, un-altered, widescreen presentation than deal with BBCA. Plus, the DVDs have special scenes filmed for the DVD set, plus the little shorties that were released on the 'net, plus (most likely) the Comic Relief stuff...

WaltzingMathilda: there were great episodes in the donna era, but she was an oafish, loudmouthed ape. i know why many people love her, but she always grated on me.

No kidding! Doctor Donna was great for 1 episode and I really dont think all the build up episode justified the last one.

whizbangthedirtfarmer: Have Amy decide to stay with him, and the poor bastard can finally feel loved.

how many times do they have to reaffirm their love for each other? if anything, that is the reason i nearly quit watching. it seemed like every other filler episode was "how amy and rory surprise each other by affirming (again) that they love each other)"

I miss Rory. There, I said it.