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(Salon) Asinine When director of Mississippi campaign to make "personhood" begin at conception--which would effectively ban in vitro fertilization--is reminded he owes his kids to IVF, he replies, "Nothing's fair," and walks away   (salon.com) divider line 492
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2011-11-08 01:04:44 PM
You just don't understand, what matters is that a bunch of old men who haven't touched a vagina in over a decade will be able to control a woman's reproductive process the way God intended it.
 
2011-11-08 01:07:11 PM
I sincerely want to believe that even Mississippi isn't retarded enough to vote for this shiat, but they probably are.
 
2011-11-08 01:07:48 PM
hot topic. 3rd light about prop 26 in two days
 
2011-11-08 01:07:49 PM
Forgive me because I don't always keep on top of the derp, but why can't you have IVF if a fertilized egg is a person exactly?
 
2011-11-08 01:08:59 PM
You know, I should be more surprised this comes down to a Republican "I got mine, fark you" fight.
 
2011-11-08 01:10:20 PM
Step 1: Get your wife an IVF treatment and freeze several dozen fertilized eggs in liquid nitrogen.
Step 2: Write them all off as dependents on your taxes.
Step 3: Profit!
 
2011-11-08 01:10:37 PM
Andromeda: Forgive me because I don't always keep on top of the derp, but why can't you have IVF if a fertilized egg is a person exactly?

The argument from the opponents is that because the verbiage of the amendment, a fertilized egg is now "human". OB GYNs will be guilty of murder if they implant multiple embryos with the knowledge that many will fail during the pregnancy.

/so I was told by the telemarketer asking me to vote no
 
2011-11-08 01:14:17 PM
Just like the 1%. "I got mine. Now fark off."
 
2011-11-08 01:15:12 PM
Andromeda: Forgive me because I don't always keep on top of the derp, but why can't you have IVF if a fertilized egg is a person exactly?

Part of IVF is the doctors will fertilize multiple eggs, in order to improve the chances of the woman becoming pregnant. They will then attempt to implant an array of those eggs that become fertilized to improve the odds that one of them implants. The process is repeated until one or more eggs implant and the woman has pregnancy that comes to term. Any left over eggs are usually destroyed, and out of a dozen or more eggs only one or two ever successfully become a child.

The Mississippi law gives all of those fertilized eggs rights as a person to not be harmed, and the act of IVF implantation would be (by even a strict reading) be negligent homicide because the doctor is knowingly placing the eggs (or persons) into a situation where the doctor knows most of them will die. It also means that the eggs that are unwanted and unused would have to be kept in storage because destroying them would be premeditated murder.
 
2011-11-08 01:15:17 PM
EnviroDude: Andromeda: Forgive me because I don't always keep on top of the derp, but why can't you have IVF if a fertilized egg is a person exactly?

The argument from the opponents is that because the verbiage of the amendment, a fertilized egg is now "human". OB GYNs will be guilty of murder if they implant multiple embryos with the knowledge that many will fail during the pregnancy.

/so I was told by the telemarketer asking me to vote no


Sounds about right. You disagree?
 
2011-11-08 01:21:41 PM
cameroncrazy1984:

Sounds about right. You disagree?


Maybe they'll be able to selectively enforce the law so that it only applies to poor black women.
 
2011-11-08 01:24:43 PM
" EnviroDude        2011-11-08 01:07:48 PM    hot topic. 3rd light about prop 26 in two days"
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To quote the veep, its kind of a big f*cking deal.

You would prefer more Herman Cain threads, perhaps?
 
2011-11-08 01:25:39 PM
EnviroDude: hot topic. 3rd light about prop 26 in two days

Only to 51% of the state's population.
 
2011-11-08 01:28:22 PM
This "person" is inhabiting a uterus that doesn't belong to them. I want to evict them I don't care where they go or what happens to them.

So all you have to do is get them out alive and see how the fare
 
2011-11-08 01:28:25 PM
gilgigamesh: " EnviroDude        2011-11-08 01:07:48 PM    hot topic. 3rd light about prop 26 in two days"
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To quote the veep, its kind of a big f*cking deal.

You would prefer more Herman Cain threads, perhaps?


How about more OWS threads so that supporters can whine about how they're not dominating the news cycle?
 
2011-11-08 01:28:38 PM
EnviroDude: hot topic. 3rd light about prop 26 in two days

I know! Why would we care about reversing nearly 40 years worth of established civil rights law? Lindsay Lohan's suing Pitbull!
 
2011-11-08 01:30:52 PM
EvilEgg: So all you have to do is get them out alive and see how the fare

I've always been a big fan of the table test. If you can't leave them alone on a table for five minutes with zero intervention without them dying, they're not a person.

/The fun part is that I've not qualified at points.
 
2011-11-08 01:31:41 PM
I've been seeing a lot of hard-core republicans I went to high school with in MS talking about this and how everyone should vote no.

When you tell a woman if she gets raped and takes the morning after pill she will do life in prison while the rapist will get a few years.... you're not going to win easily, like you would if this were about denying rights to blacks or gays.

I'm still not sure if this will fail though. If it passes, Mississippi will further solidify that Mississippi will always be a synonym for stupid and backward.
 
2011-11-08 01:33:16 PM
EvilEgg: This "person" is inhabiting a uterus that doesn't belong to them. I want to evict them I don't care where they go or what happens to them.

So all you have to do is get them out alive and see how the fare


The clear answer is that all women declare themselves corporations... that way the Republicans would not dare regulate how they divest themselves of subsidiaries.
 
2011-11-08 01:34:38 PM
Cubansaltyballs: EvilEgg: This "person" is inhabiting a uterus that doesn't belong to them. I want to evict them I don't care where they go or what happens to them.

So all you have to do is get them out alive and see how the fare

The clear answer is that all women declare themselves corporations... that way the Republicans would not dare regulate how they divest themselves of subsidiaries.


LOL. "My uterus is an LLC."
 
2011-11-08 01:41:34 PM
Cubansaltyballs: EvilEgg: This "person" is inhabiting a uterus that doesn't belong to them. I want to evict them I don't care where they go or what happens to them.

So all you have to do is get them out alive and see how the fare

The clear answer is that all women declare themselves corporations... that way the Republicans would not dare regulate how they divest themselves of subsidiaries.


"Your honor, my vagina declares bankruptcy."
 
2011-11-08 01:42:46 PM
EnviroDude: hot topic. 3rd light about prop 26 in two days

Yeah, it fu*king well is, you colossal douchebag.

You never answered my questions from the last green thread, either.
 
2011-11-08 01:43:07 PM
Cubansaltyballs: EvilEgg: This "person" is inhabiting a uterus that doesn't belong to them. I want to evict them I don't care where they go or what happens to them.

So all you have to do is get them out alive and see how the fare

The clear answer is that all women declare themselves corporations... that way the Republicans would not dare regulate how they divest themselves of subsidiaries.


Incorporation costs money. Why do you hate poor women?
 
2011-11-08 01:43:10 PM
Code_Archeologist: You just don't understand, what matters is that a bunch of old men who haven't touched a vagina in over a decade will be able to control a woman's reproductive process the way God intended it.

GAT_00: You know, I should be more surprised this comes down to a Republican "I got mine, fark you" fight.

These.
 
2011-11-08 01:43:30 PM
I think this is great progress. After all, it wasn't that long ago that Mississippi didn't give a shiat who was a "person" with rights and who wasn't.


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2011-11-08 01:43:42 PM
Typical conservative, "I got mine" attitude. This is the same kind of personality which will drive his daughter to another state to have an abortion when she gets pregnant at 15. The rules are only there to control the peasants... they don't apply to the rule-makers.
 
2011-11-08 01:43:44 PM
Diogenes: Cubansaltyballs: EvilEgg: This "person" is inhabiting a uterus that doesn't belong to them. I want to evict them I don't care where they go or what happens to them.

So all you have to do is get them out alive and see how the fare

The clear answer is that all women declare themselves corporations... that way the Republicans would not dare regulate how they divest themselves of subsidiaries.

LOL. "My uterus is an LLC."


Hey, if you become a corporation you could dump cyanide in a river and the Republicans would be fine with it... so why shouldn't you be able to restool the structure of your subsidiaries and covert their stock to non-voting shares? While your subsidiary is well-positioned for growth, you should be able to divest yourself of a non-performing asset that won't begin to return its capital investment for at least 20 years.
 
2011-11-08 01:44:19 PM
Cubansaltyballs: restool

oops. retool.
 
2011-11-08 01:44:51 PM
Cubansaltyballs: Diogenes: Cubansaltyballs: EvilEgg: This "person" is inhabiting a uterus that doesn't belong to them. I want to evict them I don't care where they go or what happens to them.

So all you have to do is get them out alive and see how the fare

The clear answer is that all women declare themselves corporations... that way the Republicans would not dare regulate how they divest themselves of subsidiaries.

LOL. "My uterus is an LLC."

Hey, if you become a corporation you could dump cyanide in a river and the Republicans would be fine with it... so why shouldn't you be able to restool the structure of your subsidiaries and covert their stock to non-voting shares dump cyanide into your vagina?


FTFY.
 
2011-11-08 01:45:00 PM
Perfect illustration of the typical conservatard "I GOT MINE, NOW FARK YOU" mentality.

/No, really, it's PERFECT.
 
2011-11-08 01:45:47 PM
Shostie: Cubansaltyballs: EvilEgg: This "person" is inhabiting a uterus that doesn't belong to them. I want to evict them I don't care where they go or what happens to them.

So all you have to do is get them out alive and see how the fare

The clear answer is that all women declare themselves corporations... that way the Republicans would not dare regulate how they divest themselves of subsidiaries.

Incorporation costs money. Why do you hate poor women?


What a bunch of lefty lies. I stopped in Delaware to get gas and a pastry and they gave me a free corporation.
 
2011-11-08 01:46:20 PM
wmoonfox: Typical conservative, "I got mine" attitude. This is the same kind of personality which will drive his daughter to another state to have an abortion when she gets pregnant at 15. The rules are only there to control the peasants... they don't apply to the rule-makers.

He will drive her. White girls need to go to college.
 
2011-11-08 01:46:43 PM
someone has to make these dirty girls pay for their promiscuity. They'll pay with labor pains, swollen joints, sore back, and months of discomfort. It's penance for their dirty, sinful, hot, sweaty sex. Now come here and TAKE YOUR MEDICINE.
 
2011-11-08 01:46:56 PM
FINALLY this shiat goes green.
 
2011-11-08 01:47:15 PM
sprawl15: Hey, if you become a corporation you could dump cyanide in a river and the Republicans would be fine with it... so why shouldn't you be able to restool the structure of your subsidiaries and covert their stock to non-voting shares dump cyanide into your vagina?

FTFY.



That would violate labor laws.
 
2011-11-08 01:47:16 PM
And why don't those embryos go get jobs rather than mooching off their mothers for nine months?
 
2011-11-08 01:48:01 PM
Cubansaltyballs: EvilEgg: This "person" is inhabiting a uterus that doesn't belong to them. I want to evict them I don't care where they go or what happens to them.

So all you have to do is get them out alive and see how the fare

The clear answer is that all women declare themselves corporations... that way the Republicans would not dare regulate how they divest themselves of subsidiaries.


I love you.
 
2011-11-08 01:48:31 PM
DrBear: And why don't those embryos go get jobs rather than mooching off their mothers for nine months?

#OCCUPYUTERUSES
 
2011-11-08 01:48:56 PM
DrBear: And why don't those embryos go get jobs rather than mooching off their mothers for nine months?

if we let them sit around being lazy in those uteri for nine months, there won't be any incentive for earning potential.
 
2011-11-08 01:49:01 PM
Sociopaths. they should be locked away to never touch society, but instead we promote them to the highest levels of power.
 
2011-11-08 01:49:30 PM
wmoonfox: Typical conservative, "I got mine" attitude. This is the same kind of personality which will drive his daughter to another state to have an abortion when she gets pregnant at 15. The rules are only there to control the peasants... they don't apply to the rule-makers.

I'm am 100% pro-choice. That being said, people who believe THIS is why they are PRO-LIFE don't really have much of a clue about it.
 
2011-11-08 01:49:57 PM
Do frozen embryos get to vote after being stored for 18 years?
 
2011-11-08 01:50:41 PM
Banning IVF you say?

Tell me more.

I mean, IVF is interferring with God's PlanTM after all, since he's the one that made you unable to conceive in the first place.

Why not adopt one of the thousands of children that will be born during the time that this law passes and is struck down by the courts?
 
2011-11-08 01:50:54 PM
I suspect the prison industry is behind this. After about 10 years, every single woman of childbearing age is going to be in prison. Late period? Aggrieved ex-boyfriend? Jail time! Miscarriage? Angry mother-in-law? Jail time! Use the pill to regulate extremely painful and debilitating periods? Jail time! Menopausal and use hormone pills to prevent osteoporosis? Arrest warrant, detailed examination of private medical records going into the public record, heavy fines.

All those women in prison? Put them to work for a corporation. 21st century slavery.

Profit!
 
2011-11-08 01:51:29 PM
Code_Archeologist: You just don't understand, what matters is that a bunch of old men who haven't touched a vagina in over a decade will be able to control a woman's reproductive process the way God intended it.

Two thumbs way up from Vatican City.
 
2011-11-08 01:51:53 PM
I'm surprised he didn't just say "Suck it."

/woulda been more honest
 
2011-11-08 01:52:16 PM
meat0918: Why not adopt one of the thousands of children that will be born during the time that this law passes and is struck down by the courts?

Because they're in Mississippi. If they came home with a little n*gger babby, the neighbors might drag them out of their lawn sofa and lynch them in front of the rest of the trailer park.
 
2011-11-08 01:52:21 PM
Code_Archeologist: Andromeda: Forgive me because I don't always keep on top of the derp, but why can't you have IVF if a fertilized egg is a person exactly?

Part of IVF is the doctors will fertilize multiple eggs, in order to improve the chances of the woman becoming pregnant. They will then attempt to implant an array of those eggs that become fertilized to improve the odds that one of them implants. The process is repeated until one or more eggs implant and the woman has pregnancy that comes to term. Any left over eggs are usually destroyed, and out of a dozen or more eggs only one or two ever successfully become a child.

The Mississippi law gives all of those fertilized eggs rights as a person to not be harmed, and the act of IVF implantation would be (by even a strict reading) be negligent homicide because the doctor is knowingly placing the eggs (or persons) into a situation where the doctor knows most of them will die. It also means that the eggs that are unwanted and unused would have to be kept in storage because destroying them would be premeditated murder.


Wouldn't keeping people in a freezer against their will be illegal too?
 
2011-11-08 01:53:02 PM
"I've got mine, so fark you"

Now where have I ever heard that line of reasoning before?
 
2011-11-08 01:54:22 PM
Even if they did pass it, the SCOTUS would smack it down in a second.

They don't get to make abortion a crime, in defiance of federal law. Plus, can you think of a better way for the Republicans to guarantee they never win another election in Mississippi? The Democrats would have a field day with this. And rightfully so.
 
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