The TV station was merely practicing the alternative medicine known as "harsh reality." I think the naturopath should be sued for defaming them.

EnviroDude: ShawnDoc: Humean_Nature: I will simply say this: for a jury to find "actual malice" in your erroneous reporting means that you thoroughly, severely done farked up.

Or you got a jury made up of mouth breathing idiots who weren't smart enough to figure out a way to get out of jury duty.

comprised of people to stupid to get out of jury duty. There is no justice anymore.

I just told a friend that after 2 days of jury duty, she'll be an avid supporter of eugenics. She probably thinks I was referring to the defendants, and not the other jurors.

Lemme take a guess. This was a story the reporter/station pushed during sweeps - and instead of doing proper vetting of the facts, broadcast a barely researched and overly scandalized story to meet deadline.

/former TV news producer

Defamed. She was DEFAMED.

/She want's that job, doesn't she?

So I worked for KSTP during the time this story came out. I'll just point out that in the same year, they also produced their infamous and much-derided "Smiley Face" serial killer piece.

So everyone and their dog has access to this person's entire medical history and should read through it?

How lousy are your reporters if they can't bust one of these frauds for something they've actually said or done?

Love how the 'naturopath' has changed her name every time she sets up shop in a new town. Classic grifter technique.

Avonmore: So I worked for KSTP during the time this story came out. I'll just point out that in the same year, they also produced their infamous and much-derided "Smiley Face" serial killer piece.

For those who are wondering... (new window)

ShawnDoc: Humean_Nature: I will simply say this: for a jury to find "actual malice" in your erroneous reporting means that you thoroughly, severely done farked up.

Or you got a jury made up of mouth breathing idiots who weren't smart enough to figure out a way to get out of jury duty.

In some states its actually pretty hard to get out of jury duty.

Magorn: HighZoolander: Humean_Nature: ShawnDoc, EnviroDude, read the article. Despite a ton of evidence to the contrary, the ran a story about how this woman tried to commit suicide because the holistic shiatbird took her off her meds. There'd be no justice if this type of sloppy reporting wasn't published.

When you have a factual whoopsy in journalism, there's varying levels of fault. There's "oh, that typo makes it sound like something bad," and there's "damn, that's not true, but I had all these sources telling me that it was." Waaayyyy down at the bottom of the pile, there's "if you were half a journalist at all you would have factchecked this shiat," and then there's "you wanted to have a better story than the one you were writing, so you made stuff up and ignored sources to make a splash, defaming someone in the process."

It's pretty much just those last two that will get you "actual malice." So perhaps instead of assuming the jury was full of retards, read the article and recognize that the newspaper probably screwed the pooch on this one.

/and yes, Naturopathy is STILL total bullshiat

So, Glenn Beck, Ann Coulter, Bill O'Reilly, etc. - how do they get away with it?

because Fox News has platoons of very expensive lawyers on retainer

Or you just go the parody route from Falwell v. Flynt or Campbell v. Acuff-Rose Music. Seriously, you know how hard it is to lose a defamation case? You practically have to try to get the story wrong, which these idiots seem to have done.

I worked for American Media Group out of law school, thus the name. For the Enquirer and the Star, we used the opinion and public figure defenses primarily. We never got sued over the content of the Weekly World News. The Amazing Bat Boy must subscribe to the theory that all publicity is good publicity.

It doesn't look like they're in trouble for calling naturopathy snake oil, they're in trouble for actually fumbling the story.

impaler: Magorn: except that their "reality" turned out to be bullshiat. Neuropathy's quackery aside, the station did not verify the basic facts of the story and thereby committed journalistic malpractice and defamed the neuropath.

And let that sink in. They screwed up so bad, they managed to defame a neuropath.

-> Neuropathy is real and has a mechanism. Wilford Brimley (insert diabeetus.jpg here) gets it. It sucks and hurts people
-> Naturopathy is fake and is bullshiat. It sucks and hurts people who honestly deserve it for being so stupid. Linky (new window) goes to a science blog by a surgeon from Wayne State (I think)

/stamping out disease

As someone who was almost killed by a MRSA infection this summer due to the incompetence of two doctors, I am getting a kick.... Seriously, you mouth breathing retards calling natural medicine bullshiat how about some data?

orangepipsfive

It sucks and hurts people who honestly deserve it for being so stupid.

It saved my life asshole. I hope you never have to go through the shiat I went through this summer.

/good thing western medicine has never ever made a mistake and nobody has ever died from a pharmaceutical.....

New Age Redneck: As someone who was almost killed by a MRSA infection this summer due to the incompetence of two doctors, I am getting a kick.... Seriously, you mouth breathing retards calling natural medicine bullshiat how about some data?

orangepipsfive

It sucks and hurts people who honestly deserve it for being so stupid.

It saved my life asshole. I hope you never have to go through the shiat I went through this summer.

/good thing western medicine has never ever made a mistake and nobody has ever died from a pharmaceutical.....


Western medicine makes mistakes, heck I made several in clinic yesterday, however critically looking at data is a good thing. When there is no potential mechanism of action that agrees with the laws of physics, chemistry, biology or really anything that is known to be accurate. Alternative therapies have their place. For instance osteopathic manipulation is a good thing. I send patients for it a lot. However there is a name for alternative therapies that work. Real medicine, if something is called alternative then generally it doesn't work. Oh and pharmaceuticals are evil and skew their research. I try to rely on trials out of Europe and Canada where the government still funds decent research instead.

So you had MRSA, MRSA is bad. Please educate me which herb with possible nonsense efficacy you were given to cure your MRSA (or was it Reiki, or acupuncture). Or did the naturopath use typical treatment (depending on the site of the MRSA drainage {for local skin abscesses) and treatment with vanco until culture back and then deescalation of antibiotics).

/stamping out disease
//got a diabetic to stop smoking yesterday
///baby steps

If you believe in holistic healers or naturopathy, I have a bridge to sell you.

"Tierney said the jury awarded Anderson about $100,000 for lost earnings, past and future, and $900,000 for damage to her reputation as a result of the broadcast story."

Uh.....if they decided her actual resulting losses past and future was $100,000, then how the hell do they decide her "reputation" is worth 9x more than her job? Sounds like somebody went deep into the derp in this case. What farking calculus are they using for determining the value of someone's reputation - beyond her actual income from her job that is based primarily on ...... her reputation?

orangepipsfive

Please educate me which herb with possible nonsense efficacy you were given to cure your MRSA

Colloidal silver and calendula. Both recommended by the doctor not a Naturopath. I luckily ran into a doctor who is about healing not being a f*cking ideologue. She recommended that I continue with antibiotics but fully supported my choice to not use them. I had been prescribed Keflex initially and it made me as sick as I have ever been in my life (it is also useless against a MRSA infection). I also used large doses of garlic and turmeric both are very effective against infection and kill infections via a different mechanism than antibiotics so when the staph mutates into stronger resistant forms it is still effective.

dahmers love zombie: How do you defame a naturopath? Claim that their treatments are effective?

You say that they have malicious intent, rather than criminal incompetence, or vice versa.