I am not having any prob...***carrier lost***

Wait, people still use Juniper equipment?

I thought the internet was a series of tubes.

/Should have upgraded to Roto-Routers
//Unclogs the internet
///I got nothing

RatOmeter: Wait, people still use Juniper equipment?

I blame Cisco. Not really. Wait, people really use Juniper?

I wonder if this has anything to do with this morning's Time Warner outrage?

Cubansaltyballs: RatOmeter: Wait, people still use Juniper equipment?

A lot of people do, and a lot more are starting to.

They make good stuff.

They also make some shiate. *cough*SRX*cough*

RatOmeter: Wait, people still use Juniper equipment?

Yeah. Why wouldn't they use one of the goto brand for carrier (and whatever is bigger & nastier than carrier) grade routers?

rezin8: RatOmeter: Wait, people still use Juniper equipment?

Let's just go down the list of people that use Juniper... NYSE Euronext, JP Morgan Chase, Honda R&D Americas, Priceline.com, Tesla Motors...

Oh, and that's just the networks I've worked on.

Tesla Motors? Did thier cars reboot as well?

rezin8: RatOmeter: Wait, people still use Juniper equipment?

Let's just go down the list of people that use Juniper... NYSE Euronext, JP Morgan Chase, Honda R&D Americas, Priceline.com, Tesla Motors...

Oh, and that's just the networks I've worked on.

Oh, and all of these:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tier_1_network (new window)

If only the linked article was down...

Whatever this "Juniper" is, it obviously sucks. My D-Link has been running just fine for 2 years straight, and it probably cost less.

Nuff said.

/Working on JNCIE
//Suck it CCNA

DECMATH: I wonder if this has anything to do with this morning's Time Warner outrage?

I think it is. At about 8:15am (CST) I lost all connectivity. I reset the router, cable modem, and finally started pinging individual IPs trying to figure out what was wrong. Then it worked again.

Shafty: rezin8: etherknot: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 352x240]

Nuff said.

/Working on JNCIE
//Suck it CCNA

You're not the only one working on a JNCIE, but...

[www.gregoryledet.com image 300x400]

...I do have allegiances. When I get around to taking my R&S lab I'll have my CCIE number below it.

You seem to have a lot of certs... Testking? or do you actually know what you are doing?

CCIE and JNCIE written are easy compared to the lab portion. Good luck.


That tattoo is hard core. I seriously have to know... Do you show that off during job interviews? I haven't had the guts to break the glass case for my CCIE medal and wear it to interviews :)

I passed the CCIE lab March of 2000 way back when it was two days long. I tied an onion to my belt and had to (in my attempts) tackle ATM, LANE, Appletalk, IPX, Token Ring, and VoIP. I passed the JNCIP-M and JNCIE-M labs done earlier this year, before they retired the exams for the SP. I took the CCNP/CCDP exams before there were any books/classes named after the component tests. I also got the MCSE in 1997 before it was crammed to farking death.

A paper certification's success and popularity causes its demise. I passed the CISSP in 2001 and 2010. The exam prep materials (not cram guides) made that multiple choice exam easy. Paper certifications (knowledge-based exams) bring out the test king crammers - a performance-based exam is the only way to go. The latest JNCIP-SP exam is only a written exam.

Shafty: rezin8:

I know ;)

Good for you, I have a friend that passed the JNCIE first time out, although he is single and spent a better part of a year preparing for it. If you ever get a desire to work on a carrier backbone, hit me up. Im always looking for good talent. Folks with JunOS experience is hard to find around here.

Finding good JUNOS people is hard, especially with gov't clearances. The last handful of Juniper-employed resident engineers (requiring clearances) that I have seen hired on at customer sites started out with zero JUNOS experience.

I started working with Juniper in 2004 and have gotten spoiled. Working with IOS (and ScreenOS) has become a pain in the ass.

Hmmm. Good thing I put off that project to upgrade the OS on all my 8216's.

Procrastination, you saved me again.

rezin8:
[www.gregoryledet.com image 300x400]

...I do have allegiances. When I get around to taking my R&S lab I'll have my CCIE number below it.

If I recall, the numbers expire after three or so years when they encourage you to recertify. :-)

rezin8: I loathe people that use braindumps for tests.

Tell me about it.

It's hilarious the amount of 1st liners that come into our place with a whole arm full of certificates, who can't explain what a 3-way handshake is and don't know how to do even the most basic troubleshooting.

I had one the other day (who is actually leaving us (from 1st line) and going to one of our competitors at 3rd line level (lol)) who was trying to troubleshoot a DNS issue through a firewall, said to me, "I didn't bother with a TCPDump because it's UDP traffic". I just had to walk away, muttering under my breath.

Cubansaltyballs: The SRX isn't that bad. I wish it had more features like SSL VPN, but whatever. It's still better than anything Checkpoint, Palo Alto Networks, Mcaffee, or any of those other software firewall people make.

Can't stand them. I will admit that they're getting better with every code release (and that I'm primarily a Checkpoint guy), but they were released before they were a mature enough firewall. We're a pretty big Juniper reseller, and our sales guys pushed the SRX from the launch, big mistake, we had several of our customers return them asking for refunds because they were that poor, then Juniper reclaisified them as "secure routers" for a while, but now they're back as firewalls. On top of that, Junipers management solution (NSM) is horrific, I'd rather use ASDM on an ASA than NSM.

Their SA boxes on the other hand are fantastic.

Give me a Checkpoint firewall solution any day of the week. :-)

No one ever got fired for buying Cisco.