I really wish we could have given Bill Clinton a third term. I really do.

With friends like Bill Clinton, who needs enemies?

GOP jobs plan:

1. Reaffirm "In God we Trust" as official motto
2. ???
3. Jobs!

In his first published interview about his book Back to Work,

Aw fer chrissakes...

Where was all this exuberance when you were PRESIDENT, Bill?

I didn't read anything in TFA that was actually a plan of any sort. Did I miss it?

Boxcutta: GOP jobs plan:

1. Reaffirm "In God we Trust" as official motto
2. ??? Tax cuts for the weal..I mean...Job Creators
3. Jobs!

The Homer Tax: I didn't read anything in TFA that was actually a plan of any sort. Did I miss it?

Yeah. He's planning to sell books.

When did Bill Clinton morph into Bob Barker?

enry: Boxcutta: GOP jobs plan:

1. Reaffirm "In God we Trust" as official motto
2. ??? Tax cuts for the weal..I mean...Job Creators
3. Pollute the shiat out of the planet
4. Jobs!

Let me guess - do nothing and hope that the free market develops a life changing technology which fuels unprecedented growth for about 7 years until the growth becomes saturated, then spend the next decade desperately trying to regain the previous growth instead of simply accepting it as a once-in-a-lifetime bump from the normal and moving on

Lost Thought 00: free market develops a life changing technology

not sure if serious?????

meat0918: Did you just claim the free market developed the internet?

They used the developments at universities and research institutions and the military, and exploited some pretty sweet deals with the US government to build out their networks.

//There is no reason why our major population centers shouldn't have higher bandwidth, and why every home in America is not hooked up to some form of broadband internet. No reason except greed that is.

Government laid the interstates, but corporations turned them into means of commerce.

Huh, tax cuts and tax giveaways. Call me unimpressed.

I like how he sympathizes with the OWS about income inequality when it was under his administration that we had the worse growth in income inequality. Maybe he is finally realizing how much he screwed the middle class?

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Lost Thought 00: Government laid the interstates, but corporations turned them into means of commerce.

God, you are intensely retarded. The energy of your stupidity could be used to melt steel. The initial development? Government and academic development. The vast majority of the software and firmware the drives the modern internet? Academic and non-commercial, non-private development. The physical infrastructure? Nearly all of it is at least partially subsidized.

You want to know what a "corporate Internet" looks like? Novell was pushing an IPX-based Internet-alike back in the late 80s and early 90s. No, you haven't heard of it. That's what a corporate Internet looks like: A big farking thing that doesn't exist based on abandoned technology.

Farxist: I like how he sympathizes with the OWS about income inequality when it was under his administration that we had the worse growth in income inequality. Maybe he is finally realizing how much he screwed the middle class?

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Yep.

Clinton f*cked this country over. He had a chance to really stand up and be an assertive leader and it turns out he had more in common with the GOP than his own party.

It was sheer luck we didn't end up going into Iraq at the end of his term, probably because the Republicans were still being the annoying spoiled children who voted against everything in spite as they are today...

Clinton acknowledges that no modern president has won a second term when the jobless rate is as high as even White House economists predict it will be on Election Day 2012.

If not for the press doing its level best to play CYA for Obama the past couple of years there wouldn't even be talk of Obama running in 2012. His removal from office would be a foregone conclusion and there would be a completely new Democrat nominee on the ballot.

What makes that funny is that this was completely predictable. We knew all criticism of Obama would be deflected with shrieks of "racism!", and we knew that he would never be held accountable for any failing, large or small.

The "Blame Bush" mentality was also predictable but I expected that to stop at some point... Because I was clearly told time and again by liberals that absolutely everything was the presidents fault no matter who did it, when it started, or what caused it...

I do "hope" I can figure out what "changed" in January of 2009 that suddenly made it impossible for the president to be at fault for anything bad.

randomjsa: Clinton acknowledges that no modern president has won a second term when the jobless rate is as high as even White House economists predict it will be on Election Day 2012.

If not for the press doing its level best to play CYA for Obama the past couple of years there wouldn't even be talk of Obama running in 2012. His removal from office would be a foregone conclusion and there would be a completely new Democrat nominee on the ballot.

What makes that funny is that this was completely predictable. We knew all criticism of Obama would be deflected with shrieks of "racism!", and we knew that he would never be held accountable for any failing, large or small.

The "Blame Bush" mentality was also predictable but I expected that to stop at some point... Because I was clearly told time and again by liberals that absolutely everything was the presidents fault no matter who did it, when it started, or what caused it...

I do "hope" I can figure out what "changed" in January of 2009 that suddenly made it impossible for the president to be at fault for anything bad.

You forgot to add in "So vote for Cain".

A Dark Evil Omen: You want to know what a "corporate Internet" looks like? Novell was pushing an IPX-based Internet-alike back in the late 80s and early 90s. No, you haven't heard of it. That's what a corporate Internet looks like: A big farking thing that doesn't exist based on abandoned technology.

It should actually be pretty obvious that the internet wasn't corporate-created by the fact that it is a huge commons. Anyone can just jump in and start surfing; and there are tens of thousands of hosting companies if you want to claim your own corner of the web. If it was developed by a single corporation (or even a cabal of them), it wouldn't look anything like it does now. It would look more like... cable television. And it would be outrageously expensive.

His plans seem to be exactly what Obama has been saying, except from a white man's mouth. Also, all the criticisms in this thread so far, are that Clinton was too far to the right. Except he was further left than Reagan or either Bush, so I'm not sure what else to say.

Yeah, most of the policies from the mid-90s, both those driven by the executive and those pushed by the legislature with his cooperation, have turned out in the long term to be bad ideas, on par with or worse than Reagan's domestic economic policy but with a bit more of a delayed reaction.

I wouldn't go so far as to say Clinton was a bad president, but even Carter has more room to talk on this issue set. Stop AWing and let the people that actually know what's currently going on get to work, man.

//Though I guess this could be interpreted as getting the media off Obama's back for a few minutes, so maybe in that sense he's helping.

Shvetz: His plans seem to be exactly what Obama has been saying, except from a white man's mouth. Also, all the criticisms in this thread so far, are that Clinton was too far to the right. Except he was further left than Reagan or either Bush, so I'm not sure what else to say.

For starters, you might admit to yourself that you live in a politically center-right leaning society, and that striving for progress is an uphill battle with these people.

So, did anyone mention that politicians have no ability to create jobs?

FTGodWin: So, did anyone mention that politicians have no ability to create jobs?

Paint black tar roofs white?

Anywho, he has street cred the rest of these clowns lack. I'm looking at you Mr. President, Mr. Senate majority leader and Mr. Speaker.

Cletus C.: Paint black tar roofs white?

Cool roofs can save a surprising amount of energy, especially when you consider the cost of installation. I'm a bigger fan of green roofs, but they're tricky to add to existing structures.

Jobbers: Cletus C.: Paint black tar roofs white?

Cool roofs can save a surprising amount of energy, especially when you consider the cost of installation. I'm a bigger fan of green roofs, but they're tricky to add to existing structures.

But that's the kind of common sense that today's GOP just plain lacks. I mean, sure, white roofs save a bunch of money, but so does keeping your tires inflated and you see what they did with that one...

1) Impose wage-differential import tariffs.
2) Impose tariffs to account for the absence of environmental protection laws.
3) Impose stiff export tariffs on raw materials (timber, etc.).

EZ1923: Jobbers: Cletus C.: Paint black tar roofs white?

Cool roofs can save a surprising amount of energy, especially when you consider the cost of installation. I'm a bigger fan of green roofs, but they're tricky to add to existing structures.

But that's the kind of common sense that today's GOP just plain lacks. I mean, sure, white roofs save a bunch of money, but so does keeping your tires inflated and you see what they did with that one...

But does it make sense as a jobs program? Hire people to fan the wealthy so they don't need to use so much air conditioning.

Trolljegeren: 1) Impose wage-differential import tariffs.
2) Impose tariffs to account for the absence of environmental protection laws.
3) Impose stiff export tariffs on raw materials (timber, etc.).

4) Speak softly and carry a big stick to bash lobbyists trying to squelch the proposed regulations

Allow companies to falsify their profits, and allow massive wealth transfer from the public to the venture capitalists?

The Homer Tax: I didn't read anything in TFA that was actually a plan of any sort. Did I miss it?

paint.roofs.white

how about: end wars, bring soldiers home, cut DoD in half, assign soldiers and NCOs the task of urban renewal, roof painting, city garden making, trash cleanup, school and park refurbishing, railroad fixin,...

The last time we had a great economy and the last time we had no deficit. Third term?

Why not?