Amen,

Reposted from yesterday's Cain thread:

Let me just say as someone who is old enough to have actually voted for Bill Clinton - twice - that the idea that the press somehow "went easy" on Clinton, or there's some double standard between their treatment of Cain and Clinton on these issues is ridiculous. It's pants-on-the-head, count-to-potato retarded to claim that the press gave Clinton a free pass.

There's the small difference of out-of-court legal settlements in this case, but who cares?

And anyone that lived through the 90's knows damn well that Clinton was bashed around by the media on a daily basis.

Difference of course being that Wiley's testimony was dismissed as misleading and inaccurate, that her accounts have varied markedly depending on whom she is talking to in the media or in depositions.

Cain's accusers had enough proof to achieve a legal settlement, something that Wiley nor Paula Jones were able to get against Clinton.


/Clinton was no choirboy but he fought the allegations and won, Cain obviously thought it was easier to pay them off to make it go away. Politically advantage: Clinton

I would think a true victim of sexual harrassment would say that every accusation is important and should be given a fair hearing. Not use your experience to achieve a partisan gain. It makes me more suspicious of Wiley if anything.

The reason it's got staying power is because of the way Cain and his staff (haha) are handling it. Once again, another politician fails to understand that it's not the proverbial crime, but the coverup.

God damned attention whore is jealous of Lewinsky. The press decided to go with the story that wasn't full of crap. Whoever thinks the press went soft on Clinton was in a coma for most of his second term. Idiots.

VictoryCabal: Let me just say as someone who is old enough to have actually voted for Bill Clinton - twice - that the idea that the press somehow "went easy" on Clinton, or there's some double standard between their treatment of Cain and Clinton on these issues is ridiculous. It's pants-on-the-head, count-to-potato retarded to claim that the press gave Clinton a free pass.

Yep.

WashTimes condemns press for reporting Cain sex harass story. Same WashTimes that pub'd 2,100+ (!) Paula Jones references; #juststop - @EricBoehlert

Note that @jamestaranto, suddenly VERY distressed about sex harass coverage, hasn't acknowledged @WSJ pub'd 70+ Paula Jones columns - @EricBoehlert

gameshowhost: Clinton: Consensual.
Cain: Harassment.

Not exactly. If you believe Willey -- and what she told friends at the time -- it was very much not consensual.

Not a double standard, Kathy... You just weren't credible.

Anyone who thinks the press "went easy" on Clinton, is either a liar or wasn't around then and is listening to too much retarded right wing talk radio.

NuttierThanEver: Difference of course being that Wiley's testimony was dismissed as misleading and inaccurate, that her accounts have varied markedly depending on whom she is talking to in the media or in depositions.

Cain's accusers had enough proof to achieve a legal settlement, something that Wiley nor Paula Jones were able to get against Clinton.


/Clinton was no choirboy but he fought the allegations and won, Cain obviously thought it was easier to pay them off to make it go away. Politically advantage: Clinton

Actually, Paula Jones got a very sizable settlement IN COURT. Which has absolutely nothing to do with Herman Cain.

Uh Duuuuuuuuh! (new window)

gameshowhost: Clinton: Consensual.
Cain: Harassment.

Actually Paula Jones alleged harassment.

Willey alleged rape and, if I remember correctly, rape.

NuttierThanEver: Difference of course being that Wiley's testimony was dismissed as misleading and inaccurate, that her accounts have varied markedly depending on whom she is talking to in the media or in depositions.

Cain's accusers had enough proof to achieve a legal settlement, something that Wiley nor Paula Jones were able to get against Clinton.

Exsqueeze, me? Clinton paid Jones a $850,000 settlement.

tallguywithglasseson: gameshowhost: Clinton: Consensual.
Cain: Harassment.

Actually Paula Jones alleged harassment.

Willey alleged rape and, if I remember correctly, rape.

Jones: She saw his penis=Harrassment
Wiley: Groped her=Battery
Broderick: Rape + bonus biting=Rape

What VictoryCabal

The press did not ignore of cover up stories or claims of Clinton's sexcapades.

People KNEW Clinton was a horndog, they elected him anyway.

I recall my newsweek subscriptions covering early Clinton scandals. I also do not recall many other people getting their the news outside of the paper and the evening news back in the early 1990's.

Were also in a more sensationalized 24-7 news cycle in competition with various forms of internet news, which has a profound effect on whats covered.

Party Boy: I recall my newsweek subscriptions covering early Clinton scandals

Quick Google news check..

1991-1994
"Clinton + Scandal"
About 10,300 results.

Its there, even without the 24-7 news cycle.

Clinton was involved in sexual improprieties? I don't think even her husband would tap that willingly.

TheDumbBlonde: Jones: She saw his penis=Harrassment
Wiley: Groped her=Battery
Broderick: Rape + bonus biting=Rape

Ah, yes, thank you.

Also..

tallguywithglasseson: gameshowhost: Clinton: Consensual.
Cain: Harassment.

Actually Paula Jones alleged harassment.

Willey alleged rape and, if I remember correctly, rape.

Oh, all right, I'll do it. {sigh}

You listed "rape" twice.

TheDumbBlonde: tallguywithglasseson: gameshowhost: Clinton: Consensual.
Cain: Harassment.

Actually Paula Jones alleged harassment.

Willey alleged rape and, if I remember correctly, rape.

Jones: She saw his penis=Harrassment
Wiley: Groped her=Battery
Broderick: Rape + bonus biting=Rape

He was also accused of groping one of the enlisted attendants on Air Force One and later apologized.

So the Cain camp has officially pulled out "b-b-b-but Clinton...!"

Saborlas: So the Cain camp has officially pulled out "b-b-b-but Clinton...!"

No, I think that was Kathleen Wiley.

You know, you can actually get the truth about a given story by reading NewsBusters and just reversing everything it says.

So in this case "The press gave Bill Clinton a pass on his sexual harassment" should be read as "The press crucified Bill Clinton over his sexual harassment claims."

I have to say, this sex scandal or any sex scandal wouldn't cause me not to vote for Cain. The whole political and economic insanity, that's what would/will keep me from ever voting for Cain.

/See also Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann, Newt Gingrich.

VictoryCabal: Reposted from yesterday's Cain thread:

Let me just say as someone who is old enough to have actually voted for Bill Clinton - twice - that the idea that the press somehow "went easy" on Clinton, or there's some double standard between their treatment of Cain and Clinton on these issues is ridiculous. It's pants-on-the-head, count-to-potato retarded to claim that the press gave Clinton a free pass.

this. i remember newt leading the charge...the hypocrisy, it burns