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2011-11-07 08:20:37 AM
Pretty sure most of those are common knowledge.
 
2011-11-07 08:34:41 AM
Ric...is that you?
 
2011-11-07 08:51:51 AM
It was nice to have the Dan Quayle one in there to throw a bone to the conservatives, who are going to have problem with this nevertheless.
 
2011-11-07 08:52:15 AM
Did you know that Jefferson proclaimed himself to be a Christian?
 
2011-11-07 08:52:32 AM
1. America is exceptional
2. Tax cuts increase income
 
2011-11-07 09:02:46 AM
Was I supposed to learn something from that? Because all I learned was potato.
 
2011-11-07 09:09:41 AM
This is a terribly written article. The section on the last "myth" (about prison) is particularly cringe-worthy.

And the US is indeed a democracy under common usage of that word.
 
2011-11-07 09:18:57 AM
EnviroDude: Did you know that Jefferson proclaimed himself to be a Christian?

Yes, but in the moral sense of "Love thy neighbor'....
Not in the "I believe Jesus is the Son of God and belief in him is essential for salvation" sense.

Because Jefferson did not believe that.
 
2011-11-07 09:20:18 AM
Ha! Every single time I've said that we're a Constitutional Republic, people get all crazy and respond that we're a democracy. As for the rest, they seemed to be common knowledge to me.
 
2011-11-07 09:20:35 AM
Myth #4: The Native Americans were Savages

I don't need an article to tell me that. I saw Pocahontas.
 
2011-11-07 09:21:22 AM
Actually, to be correct we're a Constitutionally-limited Republic.
 
2011-11-07 09:31:43 AM
The cherry tree thing is more apocrypha than myth.
 
2011-11-07 09:36:02 AM
Also, the first Thanksgiving was in Jamestown, which had no "Pilgrims."
 
2011-11-07 09:41:55 AM
de·moc·ra·cy noun \di-ˈmä-krə-sē\
plural de·moc·ra·cies

1
a : government by the people; especially : rule of the majority
b : a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections
 
2011-11-07 09:43:44 AM
Based on the broken shackles at its feet and the politics of its creator, it comes as little surprise that rumors have built up that the Statue of Liberty is a tribute to the end of slavery.

I've never heard this one,
 
2011-11-07 09:55:37 AM
Myth #1: America Is A Democracy

This article is already so farking dumb I can't read on.
 
2011-11-07 09:58:43 AM
1. Simple semantics and the difference between denotation and connotation, not a myth
2. An aversion to an organized church does not make someone not a Christian
3. Fair enough
4. Depends on your definition of "savage." Someone essentially living in the Stone Age would seem savage to someone with the technology available to early explorers
5. Stupid
6. Don't know anyone who thinks this
7. I'm a Wisconsinite despite having been born and raised in Oregon. My sister is a Texan with the same Oregon background. I suppose it's the the "native-born Texans" who would have a problem with this.
8. The Vikings got as far as Newfoundland and left, never to return. Columbus was the first European to bring back news of the New World and return to establish colonies.
9. Never heard that myth before. I always learned that it was a centennial gift from France to the US. And the face was not modeled after a black woman. The artist himself said it was modeled after his mother.
10. Jackie Robinson was the first black man to legally signed to play in the major leagues after the color line was established. The early guys were signed before the line was established and were allowed to complete their contracts.
11. Never heard it was Revere alone, always learned that he was alerting other messengers as well.
12. Fair enough, never heard that.
13. Always learned this as a myth
14. Who even thinks this?
 
2011-11-07 10:06:15 AM
DamnYankees: Myth #1: America Is A Democracy

This article is already so farking dumb I can't read on.


It's not. In a democracy, people make the laws, not have other people do it. It's borderline semantics, but it's true.
 
2011-11-07 10:09:58 AM
shivashakti: EnviroDude: Did you know that Jefferson proclaimed himself to be a Christian?

Yes, but in the moral sense of "Love thy neighbor'....
Not in the "I believe Jesus is the Son of God and belief in him is essential for salvation" sense.

Because Jefferson did not believe that.


I wonder if EnviroDude knows that Mormons proclaim themselves to be Christian? Because, if Jefferson was a Christian by his proclamation, that means that Mormons are as well, right?
 
2011-11-07 10:11:30 AM
hitchking: This is a terribly written article. The section on the last "myth" (about prison) is particularly cringe-worthy.

And the US is indeed a democracy under common usage of that word.


Like how "bad" means "good?"

America is modeled after a democracy. Our government is somewhat inspired BY democracy. But, we're really not a democracy. And, we should be okay with that.
 
2011-11-07 10:13:47 AM
EnviroDude: Did you know that Jefferson proclaimed himself to be a Christian?

So?
 
2011-11-07 10:15:08 AM
GAT_00: It's not. In a democracy, people make the laws, not have other people do it. It's borderline semantics, but it's true.

It's pretty much semantics... "democracy" is shorthand for "representative democracy." However, one can argue that our system is representative not of the people in our country but of corporate interest.
 
2011-11-07 10:30:59 AM
Little do most Americans know they don't actually live in a democracy.

Little do most Americans who love to shout how we live in a Republic, not a Democracy, realize that this means about as much as a cat's fart in a tornado. It says far more about those who shout it than the actual country.
 
2011-11-07 10:34:00 AM
People who like to say "America isn't a democracy" are the same irritating assholes who say "the Civil War wasn't about slaver" and "technically, George Washington wasn't the first president." They're trying to seem smart but they're really just coming off like a smug bastards.
 
2011-11-07 10:34:49 AM
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2011-11-07 10:39:15 AM
hitchking: This is a terribly written article. The section on the last "myth" (about prison) is particularly cringe-worthy.

And the US is indeed a democracy under common usage of that word.


The prison one was the whole point of the article. Weird way of trying to make your point. 13 Ric Romero myths and than an opinion on over incarceration in US (also worthy of Ric Romero).
 
2011-11-07 11:11:37 AM
GAT_00: It's not. In a democracy, people make the laws, not have other people do it.

Please provide a citation to this effect which *excludes* from it the idea that people can make the laws via representatives.
 
2011-11-07 11:12:46 AM
The incarceration thing, let me tell you about drug prohibition and mandatory minimums.

(Of course the two most frequent crimes are drunk driving and domestic violence - they also clog the courts)
 
2011-11-07 11:14:25 AM
15) The United States is an egalitarian meritocracy
 
2011-11-07 11:27:13 AM
ArkAngel: 2. An aversion to an organized church does not make someone not a Christian

Dude, people think Romney is not a Christian and he DOES belong to an organized church.
 
2011-11-07 11:31:07 AM
Revere set out and informed every messenger and rider he could about the movement. By the end of the night, it's figured nearly 40 men were sending out similar warnings by the time Revere crossed the Charles and warned every home in Charlestown of the British arrival. According to local sources, secrecy needed to be maintained and so Revere actually yelling, "The British are coming" would have been ill-advised, so the more stealthy "The Regulars are coming out" was used.

Actually, the reason he didn't say, :"The British are coming," is because everybody was British at that time.
 
2011-11-07 11:35:55 AM
Because People in power are Stupid: The incarceration thing, let me tell you about drug prohibition and mandatory minimums.

(Of course the two most frequent crimes are drunk driving and domestic violence - they also clog the courts)


If women would only listen it would go a long ways to fixing these problems.
 
2011-11-07 11:42:39 AM
16) America does not have a caste system
 
2011-11-07 11:42:40 AM
jaylectricity: Revere set out and informed every messenger and rider he could about the movement. By the end of the night, it's figured nearly 40 men were sending out similar warnings by the time Revere crossed the Charles and warned every home in Charlestown of the British arrival. According to local sources, secrecy needed to be maintained and so Revere actually yelling, "The British are coming" would have been ill-advised, so the more stealthy "The Regulars are coming out" was used.

Actually, the reason he didn't say, :"The British are coming," is because everybody was British at that time.


Which goes to show how well researched this article is. Perhaps also why it contains a lot of "myths" that few believe, much less have heard of.
 
2011-11-07 11:49:46 AM
ArkAngel: 8. The Vikings got as far as Newfoundland and left, never to return. Columbus was the first European to bring back news of the New World and return to establish colonies.

Well Newfoundland, Greenland & Baffin Island are parts of North America and Leif Ericson was the European discoverer of it. US is North American Country. Cabot also "discovered" North America before Columbus, plus he new that it was actually not India/Asia so he gets bonus points for that.

I don't understand how Columbus is even very relevant to US history. He is very relevant in terms of Spain, exploration and history of the "Americas" in general but has no little significance link to the US itself.
 
2011-11-07 11:53:58 AM
17) Japan surrendered in 1945 because we nuked them a couple times.
 
2011-11-07 12:03:37 PM
America was a land grab and a tax dodge with some subjugation of the natives and old world bankers financing it. And it was apparently, a very successful one. The land has been grabbed, the natives are opening casinos, the kidnapped foreign nationals have been released into the society that ill used them and still, largely, scorns them.

The old world bankers lineage, from the Rothschild clan on down to the Fed, is intact, putting all the wealth into the same hands they've been putting it into for years and the "free and democratic America" we lived in, briefly, was nothing but a bubble in the middle of this very protracted business plan that needed skilled people to hammer all that dirt into wealth.

America never existed. America was the new cash cow for the same Eurobanker elite that's been running sh*t since learned people wrote in Latin.And we are in the last days of the old girl giving milk sufficient to interest them. Welcome to the other shoe dropping.

Lesson? If you can get enough concentrations of wealth and regiment a small collection of families into a strict set of rules and organizations to carry out a business plan that covers 16 lifetimes, you can steal everything but the paint off the wall. Ha ha. We got what the poor people are always left with when the disciplined and educated are through taking what they want. Whorehouses, lottery games, bread and circuses, empty churches, and if you're lucky, a pot to piss in. And we will fall over and sink into the swamp unless we declare war on these bastards because history has shown that that's how the sh*t works.
 
2011-11-07 12:29:35 PM
bunner: America was a land grab and a tax dodge with some subjugation of the natives and old world bankers financing it. And it was apparently, a very successful one. The land has been grabbed, the natives are opening casinos, the kidnapped foreign nationals have been released into the society that ill used them and still, largely, scorns them.

The old world bankers lineage, from the Rothschild clan on down to the Fed, is intact, putting all the wealth into the same hands they've been putting it into for years and the "free and democratic America" we lived in, briefly, was nothing but a bubble in the middle of this very protracted business plan that needed skilled people to hammer all that dirt into wealth.

America never existed. America was the new cash cow for the same Eurobanker elite that's been running sh*t since learned people wrote in Latin.And we are in the last days of the old girl giving milk sufficient to interest them. Welcome to the other shoe dropping.

Lesson? If you can get enough concentrations of wealth and regiment a small collection of families into a strict set of rules and organizations to carry out a business plan that covers 16 lifetimes, you can steal everything but the paint off the wall. Ha ha. We got what the poor people are always left with when the disciplined and educated are through taking what they want. Whorehouses, lottery games, bread and circuses, empty churches, and if you're lucky, a pot to piss in. And we will fall over and sink into the swamp unless we declare war on these bastards because history has shown that that's how the sh*t works.


Finally, some good old-fashioned class warfare.
 
2011-11-07 12:29:48 PM
 
2011-11-07 12:37:01 PM
Marcus Aurelius: Finally, some good old-fashioned class warfare.

It never went away. It just Hiroshimas every so often.
 
2011-11-07 12:45:14 PM
People who click TruTV links get what they deserve
 
2011-11-07 12:46:23 PM
A "TruTV" link? Pass.
 
2011-11-07 12:49:49 PM
Before the Wonkavator goes through the roof, can someone post the myths for those of us stuck behind the Websense Nazis?
 
Bf+
2011-11-07 12:50:23 PM
I almost clicked a TruTV link.
fark you , subby.
 
2011-11-07 12:53:20 PM
Why do they have murca
 
2011-11-07 12:53:20 PM
Information comes from where it comes from. It is usually biased and slated. That's why we have historians. TruTV is just another pack of mooks with an editing suite, a broadcast license and a "reality" template. I got no reason to hate on that.
 
2011-11-07 12:53:51 PM
EnviroDude: Did you know that Jefferson proclaimed himself to be a Christian?

He also cut up a Bible to get rid of all the supernatural sh*t, and called it the "Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth." I'd say Jefferson's view that Jesus was not divine conflicts with prevailing contemporary Christian doctrine.
 
2011-11-07 12:54:16 PM
Christopher Columbus's first impressions of the Indians, saying "They do not bear arms, and do not know them, for I showed them a sword, they took it by the edge and cut themselves out of ignorance. They have no iron. Their spears are made of cane.... They would make fine servants.... With fifty men we could subjugate them all and make them do whatever we want."

Yup. First, every single Indian nation was the exact same, and exactly as he describes. That's why they never won a battle. They had cane spears and didn't even know which was the pointy end.
 
2011-11-07 12:54:33 PM
blocked at work. can someone posts the myths
 
2011-11-07 12:54:33 PM
bunner: America never existed. America was the new cash cow for the same Eurobanker elite that's been running sh*t since learned people wrote in Latin.And we are in the last days of the old girl giving milk sufficient to interest them. Welcome to the other shoe dropping.

Lesson? If you can get enough concentrations of wealth and regiment a small collection of families into a strict set of rules and organizations to carry out a business plan that covers 16 lifetimes, you can steal everything but the paint off the wall. Ha ha. We got what the poor people are always left with when the disciplined and educated are through taking what they want. Whorehouses, lottery games, bread and circuses, empty churches, and if you're lucky, a pot to piss in. And we will fall over and sink into the swamp unless we declare war on these bastards because history has shown that that's how the sh*t works.


I wish you were kidding!
 
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