Inability to spew gibberish? No, he dips into that bucket from time to time.

Huntsman is running for 2016. He's hoping for a derpy nominee, a complete blowout in the general, and a subsequent reform/purge that would leave people like him as frontrunners. The problem is that they'd alienate their entire base by doing so. There's a reason he's been polling at 2-3%.

Romney is getting the nomination, this was decided a long time ago.

I take it the inverse of the % to win against Obama is the chance for Republican nomination? They need a slider for "amount of whargarrrble" from 1 to potato.

Cause libertards get to pick who the gop nominates and who your boy runs against

Go Fark yourselves and Fark huntsman and his liberal ny times loving ass

Go Cain!!!

Vodka Zombie: xanadian: He'll never get the nomination, though.

True. Republicans love their crazy.

All Huntsman has to do is say he's going to nuke Iran and put all Communists in America into labor camps, and they'll freakin' love him.

I actually no longer believe there is any relationship between the Republican candidates' actual policy positions and the amount of support they get. The three GOP frontrunners are Romney, Perry, and Cain, and they've each gone WAAAAY off the party platform with some of their stances. As did McCain. However, they have the right letter behind their name and that's what counts to partisans.

Huntsman is the smartest, has the most reasonable policy platform, and is the most qualified for the job. Yet he's losing because he's a shiatty, boring candidate, period, and people don't think he has a chance of getting elected. Same thing happened to Pawlenty.

Marcus Aurelius: Huntsman is to the left of Obama. He'd make a good Democratic contender.

Just because he's not a sputtering, drooling psychotic moron doesn't make him "to the left." He's still a moderate conservative.

goorange: Cause libertards get to pick who the gop nominates and who your boy runs against

Go Fark yourselves and Fark huntsman and his liberal ny times loving ass

Go Cain!!!

He's running to sell books.

goorange: Cause libertards get to pick who the gop nominates and who your boy runs against

Go Fark yourselves and Fark huntsman and his liberal ny times loving ass

Go Cain!!!

LOL, I agree, Go Cain! Then he can be massacred in the General!

Even Obama is far too right-wing for 2011 IMO.

goorange: liberal ny times loving

This, right here, is why God hates the GOP.

Edsel: The three GOP frontrunners are Romney, Perry, and Cain, and they've each gone WAAAAY off the party platform with some of their stances.

It's not that strange, there's a lot of internal arguments that go on in the GOP before picking someone, except once a person is picked, the GOP marches in lockstep behind them. People wouldn't normally care so much, but this election is going to be such a total shiatkicking and the GOP frontrunners are so terribly awful that it's turning into one of the richest flavors of reality TV.

I voted for Obama in 2008. With what I've read about Huntsman so far i'd vote for him in 2012

sprawl15: It's not that strange, there's a lot of internal arguments that go on in the GOP before picking someone

Something like


I'd wager.

// Rick Parry's the one with nystagmus

Simple analogy:

The Phillies sucked ass against the Cardinals all year. If they had lost the last regular season game of the year, Atlanta would have been tied with the Cardinals and maybe Atlanta would have gone to the NLDS and the Phillies may have kicked their asses (as they did all year) and gone on to win the World Series.

The first round can often be the toughest due to head-to-head matchups, but Huntsman is going to be honorable like the Phillies and not throw the game, but neither gets the ultimate prize either.

Edsel: The three GOP frontrunners are Romney, Perry, and Cain, and they've each gone WAAAAY off the party platform with some of their stances.

Examples?

Vodka Zombie: xanadian: He'll never get the nomination, though.

True. Republicans love their crazy.

All Huntsman has to do is say he's going to nuke Iran and put all Communists in America into labor camps, and they'll freakin' love him.

All he has to do is run on his actual record as gov, which is to the right of Perry. Massive tax cuts, pro-bussiness. Purely based on record he is the most right wing of all the candidates. Like him making Cato's top five governors cut several years in a row, ect. Also a very high ACU rating. He's a right wing as they come, except that he is running as the moderate he never was, forgetting this is the primary, not the general election

If he actually ran on his record instead of his new image he would be the nominee already

Marcus Aurelius: Huntsman is to the left of Obama. He'd make a good Democratic contender.

So in your opinion mass deregulation on the state level, massive tax cuts and a hawkish foreign policy makes one to the left of Obama in your opinion.

Dude what are you smoking, I want some of that

Marcus Aurelius: Huntsman is to the left of Obama. He'd make a good Democratic contender.

No he isn't, and he wouldn't.
BUT, he would be the best challenge to Obama, he's smart, he's a good guy (at least from what I know), and he would probably be a good president.

Nothing is certain when it comes to elections, and if we need to chance a GOP president instead of Obama, I'd like it to be him.

This is so sad.

I like how all you have to do to stand out as the Erudite in a GOP primary is to believe scientific facts that have been established decades ago

Tusz: Huntsman is running for 2016. He's hoping for a derpy nominee, a complete blowout in the general, and a subsequent reform/purge that would leave people like him as frontrunners. The problem is that they'd alienate their entire base by doing so. There's a reason he's been polling at 2-3%.

I'd be ok with that.

CPennypacker: I like how all you have to do to stand out as the Erudite in a GOP primary is to believe scientific facts that have been established decades ago not fling poo like a retarded monkey

coeyagi: CPennypacker: I like how all you have to do to stand out as the Erudite in a GOP primary is to believe scientific facts that have been established decades ago not fling poo like a retarded monkey

that too

PC LOAD LETTER: Jake Havechek: Romney is getting the nomination, this was decided a long time ago.

Which is why the consistent trend has been "anyone but Romney", right? I mean now that Cain is falling, Newt of all people is predicted to be the next front runner. They may, in fact, nominate Romney, but only because everyone else has crashed and burned and there would literally be no one else left.

Their only chance of actually getting "anyone but Romney" rests in the hands of the SEC. Roger Ailes and News Corp brass could probably just buy out any non "hard right retard" news outlets and get the entire pork-grind-eating country to start believing their mega derp before even a new neutral station could crop up again. But again, SEC, those government regulators, are standing in the way of a new post-information dystopic future.

So we're going from Cain to Huntsman at this point?

Good luck with that. Huntsman was working with Obama. I'm sure that will go over well with the rabid base who wants 'one of their own' in there.

Carth: I voted for Obama in 2008. With what I've read about Huntsman so far i'd vote for him in 2012

You like massive deregulation and tax cuts across the board and massive cuts for business and making ones state the most business friendly in the country.

Ok, if you like that stuff, why the hell would you have voted for Obama in 2008. Look at Huntsmans own website. He says the free market is the best system and we need to deregulate it. Look at his site, he want to drill more, deregulate more, tax less, roll back the EPA, restrict the NLRB, eliminate AMT, cut corporate taxes from 35% to 25%, Eliminate the Taxes on Capital Gains and Dividends, etc

In his own words his foreign policy
"The world is a better place when America leads. Our own interests are best served when we lead. American exceptionalism is not only about who we are as a people - but it also speaks to how the United States alone is positioned in the world to promote freedom, democracy, human rights, wealth creation, and security. It is a role we should not shrink from, but rather embrace."

I don't what you have been reading but Huntsman is the far opposite of Obama. If you liked Barry you won't like Jon

what about Ron Paul's chances? The more the media black out continues the more I think it may be worthwhile to vote for him. even if only for the lulz

not voting for Obama again. Will not vote for Romney, Perry, Bahchman, Cain

Guntram Shatterhand: So we're going from Cain to Huntsman at this point?

Good luck with that. Huntsman was working with Obama. I'm sure that will go over well with the rabid base who wants 'one of their own' in there.

They should just get Keith Stone to run, you know, for his man-of-the-peopleness and because, well, he's so smooth.

jedihirsch: Carth: I voted for Obama in 2008. With what I've read about Huntsman so far i'd vote for him in 2012

You like massive deregulation and tax cuts across the board and massive cuts for business and making ones state the most business friendly in the country.

Ok, if you like that stuff, why the hell would you have voted for Obama in 2008. Look at Huntsmans own website. He says the free market is the best system and we need to deregulate it. Look at his site, he want to drill more, deregulate more, tax less, roll back the EPA, restrict the NLRB, eliminate AMT, cut corporate taxes from 35% to 25%, Eliminate the Taxes on Capital Gains and Dividends, etc

In his own words his foreign policy
"The world is a better place when America leads. Our own interests are best served when we lead. American exceptionalism is not only about who we are as a people - but it also speaks to how the United States alone is positioned in the world to promote freedom, democracy, human rights, wealth creation, and security. It is a role we should not shrink from, but rather embrace."

I don't what you have been reading but Huntsman is the far opposite of Obama. If you liked Barry you won't like Jon

I voted for Obama because of his position on Iraq and Afghanistan. He lied about that.

TrainingWheelsNeeded: what about Ron Paul's chances? The more the media black out continues the more I think it may be worthwhile to vote for him. even if only for the lulz

not voting for Obama again. Will not vote for Romney, Perry, Bahchman, Cain

EVERY. GOD. DAMN. THREAD.

Ok, so, let's see, I'll start us off with really obvious reasons to not vote for Paul.

1) He likey the gold standard.

Carth: I voted for Obama in 2008.

Me too. This time around, I'd like to vote for Hillary as an Independent. She's got the spine to tell both parties to fark off and with Bill in her back pocket, she'd have the smarts to fix this mess. And I'm not trying to imply she's dumb because she's not.

coeyagi: They should just get Keith Stone to run, you know, for his man-of-the-peopleness and because, well, he's so smooth.

Well, he says he's smooth, anyway.

goorange: Cause libertards get to pick who the gop nominates and who your boy runs against

Go Fark yourselves and Fark huntsman and his liberal ny times loving ass

Go Cain!!!

coeyagi: TrainingWheelsNeeded: what about Ron Paul's chances? The more the media black out continues the more I think it may be worthwhile to vote for him. even if only for the lulz

not voting for Obama again. Will not vote for Romney, Perry, Bahchman, Cain

EVERY. GOD. DAMN. THREAD.

Ok, so, let's see, I'll start us off with really obvious reasons to not vote for Paul.

1) He likey the gold standard.

I admit, a lot of the currency issues are over my head. Ending the unsustainable wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, on terror and on drugs are what I would consider a priority as it allow for more money of whatever kind to be used here, fixing infrastructure, education, health care etc. But what is so great about our current system? What do you specifically hate about the gold standard? (Not a challenge I am genuinely interested)

TrainingWheelsNeeded: what about Ron Paul's chances?

RON PAUL is the walking embodiment of cutting off one's nose to spite the face.

krelborne: Edsel: The three GOP frontrunners are Romney, Perry, and Cain, and they've each gone WAAAAY off the party platform with some of their stances.

Examples?

The easy ones (there are plenty more):

Romney: has flip-flopped on every. single. issue. But healthcare stands out the most.
Perry: immigration.
Cain: abortion - but he also basically doesn't really have ANY firm Republican stances outside of 9-9-9.

PC LOAD LETTER: Jake Havechek: Romney is getting the nomination, this was decided a long time ago.

Which is why the consistent trend has been "anyone but Romney", right? I mean now that Cain is falling, Newt of all people is predicted to be the next front runner. They may, in fact, nominate Romney, but only because everyone else has crashed and burned and there would literally be no one else left.

I've always thought Romney's best chance is to have the contest still wide open going into Super Tuesday so the "not Romney" vote is split as many ways as possible. His worst nightmare is after NH (which he's going to clean up in) it's him vs. one other candidate. With proportional assignment of delegates until ST Romney might still have a large field by then.

CanisNoir: PC LOAD LETTER: Newt of all people is predicted to be the next front runner.

I'm curious, why do you say "Newt of all people."? What are Newts negatives really? So far as I can tell, he hasn't really said anything too outlandish in the race. Early on he harped a little too much on the whole "Socialist Heathen" hyperbole, but I can overlook hyperbolic political rhetoric because it spews forth from both sides. I think, at this time, that Newt would make a very good challenger to Obama and could possibly win.

He's the only speaker of the house in US history to be sanctioned for ethics violations?

Also he's fat

TrainingWheelsNeeded: coeyagi: TrainingWheelsNeeded: what about Ron Paul's chances? The more the media black out continues the more I think it may be worthwhile to vote for him. even if only for the lulz

not voting for Obama again. Will not vote for Romney, Perry, Bahchman, Cain

EVERY. GOD. DAMN. THREAD.

Ok, so, let's see, I'll start us off with really obvious reasons to not vote for Paul.

1) He likey the gold standard.

I admit, a lot of the currency issues are over my head. Ending the unsustainable wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, on terror and on drugs are what I would consider a priority as it allow for more money of whatever kind to be used here, fixing infrastructure, education, health care etc. But what is so great about our current system? What do you specifically hate about the gold standard? (Not a challenge I am genuinely interested)

Link (new window)

For one, Keynesian economics would be more or less useless, and we'd be in a much bigger economic shiat-heap now than without the gold standard. You can get the rest from the article.

jedihirsch: Carth: I voted for Obama in 2008. With what I've read about Huntsman so far i'd vote for him in 2012

You like massive deregulation and tax cuts across the board and massive cuts for business and making ones state the most business friendly in the country.

Ok, if you like that stuff, why the hell would you have voted for Obama in 2008. Look at Huntsmans own website. He says the free market is the best system and we need to deregulate it. Look at his site, he want to drill more, deregulate more, tax less, roll back the EPA, restrict the NLRB, eliminate AMT, cut corporate taxes from 35% to 25%, Eliminate the Taxes on Capital Gains and Dividends, etc

In his own words his foreign policy
"The world is a better place when America leads. Our own interests are best served when we lead. American exceptionalism is not only about who we are as a people - but it also speaks to how the United States alone is positioned in the world to promote freedom, democracy, human rights, wealth creation, and security. It is a role we should not shrink from, but rather embrace."

I don't what you have been reading but Huntsman is the far opposite of Obama. If you liked Barry you won't like Jon

Huntsman also says things like:

"Only Afghanistan can save Afghanistan. All I want is for America to save America." I agree that America should promote its interests in the world but we should be doing it with soft power and diplomacy not our military.


Huntsman advocates energy independence.... just like every president for the last 40 years. I support alternative energy but also think we should drill more. He agrees with the need to grow our wind and solar industry along with increasing drilling.

I don't think repealing Obama's healthcare bill is important and support a single payer system but I hate that Obama's plan forces us to buy from private insurance without a public option. I'd love it if we had a national system like VT.

I don't like his plans to get rid of capital gains tax but I don't think any new president will have the political capital to do it unless Republicans can take a 60 vote majority in the Senate.

I really like his plan for patent reform and his willingness to stop issuing certain tech patents.

TrainingWheelsNeeded: What do you specifically hate about the gold standard?

One of the basic problems is that there is simply not enough gold on the planet to go back to the gold standard. So...yeah.