There's a football coach that needs to be arrested. Also the league is looking really bad dragging their feet given there's video of the incident.

WhyteRaven74: There's a football coach that needs to be arrested. Also the league is looking really bad dragging their feet given there's video of the incident.

I have to disagree. Remember, our injured kid is very nearly 200 lbs. Coaches have put on pads for contact drills ever since there were pads and contact drills, and this coach didn't even have shoulder pads. He put his bare shoulder into the kid's shoulder pad after slowing down, and wasn't even running full speed before he slowed down. Given those circumstances, there wasn't that great a chance for injury.

Missing a collarbone injury, OTOH, is a problem. You should take a kid's reported injury seriously.

I am not a father, but I have played many contact sports and it is important to remember that this is not a small child.

I don't think that the issue here is that the coach put a hit on the kid (from the video it didn't look vicious and the coach wasn't wearing pads, only a helmet) but rather that the coach apparently did not take seriously the fact that the kid told him that he was injured.

I mean, as long as there are contact drills coaches are going to run through them with kids, however, when a kid goes down, you gotta take it serious.

/Hoping that coach didn't want to put a nasty hit on kid

Our school was big enough to have a PE teacher or the actual school medic staffed during practice every other day, and in the office until 6 p.m. every day.

Sounds like the school might be hiring another full time staffer in the future.

I took worse hits than that from my cross country coaches in high school for gods sake. No pads involved.

/we were a rough CC team, lots of wrestling and sparring, kinda gay now that i think about it

Menace II Sobriety: I don't think that the issue here is that the coach put a hit on the kid (from the video it didn't look vicious and the coach wasn't wearing pads, only a helmet) but rather that the coach apparently did not take seriously the fact that the kid told him that he was injured.

Exactly, it's called due diligence, coach doesn't have it apparently.

Pads vs No Pads. No malicious intent. The coach doesn't look much bigger than the kids. Unfortunate accident but the kid, sadly, was probably due. Sucks that it happened during a dick around event for practice but sometimes that happens.

During JV soccer I removed an assistant coach due to tackling his ankle. Part of the game, no harm, no foul.

/CSB

Menace II Sobriety: I am not a father, but I have played many contact sports and it is important to remember that this is not a small child.

I don't think that the issue here is that the coach put a hit on the kid (from the video it didn't look vicious and the coach wasn't wearing pads, only a helmet) but rather that the coach apparently did not take seriously the fact that the kid told him that he was injured.

I mean, as long as there are contact drills coaches are going to run through them with kids, however, when a kid goes down, you gotta take it serious.

/Hoping that coach didn't want to put a nasty hit on kid

The thing is that a 13 year-old boy is soft. Testosterone usually hasn't fully kicked in yet, and the growth ends of the bones aren't all the way fused. Bigger kids are sometimes placing more load on bodies that aren't ready to handle it. At the middle school level, some caution might be in order. You might even consider not letting your kid play football until age 15, as far as I'm concerned.

Reason number 24 why football should be banned.

/ducks head

Maybe the coach thought he was giving the kid the advantage by not wearing shoulder pads but the kid had nothing to gain by really hitting an overgrown child with no shoulder pads. If he'd knocked him on his ass, he would have looked like a jerk, so he ran the play half speed while the coach clearly ran it full speed. Long story short, kid's a pussy and coach is a jackass.

omgwtfetc: Maybe the coach thought he was giving the kid the advantage by not wearing shoulder pads but the kid had nothing to gain by really hitting an overgrown child with no shoulder pads. If he'd knocked him on his ass, he would have looked like a jerk, so he ran the play half speed while the coach clearly ran it full speed. Long story short, kid's a pussy and coach is a jackass.

On a second viewing it looks like the injured kid was the third player to be hit, when the coach had lost all his momentum by slamming into two other players. What the fark was that kid doing on the football team? Maybe he'll take some AP classes now, although his interview raises some doubts.

Back in '02 I used to be able to knock a QB out of his shoes from a weak-side blitz

/then throw a pigskin a quarter mile

The kid will be rendered retarded by the time he's 20 if he sticks with football. If he had a modicum of sense, he'd quit the team.

/and cut back on the turduckens

Take a salt tablet.

Do some of you farking idiots not know there is a difference between an adult who is 5'6 and 180 lbs and a kid with the same stats? The kid is still growing, his muscles and bones aren't fully hardened.

/Most of you pussies never put on pads anyway.

ArkAngel: Never played football myself, but I can tell you that in wrestling, pretty much everyone was demonstration fodder for the coaches at one point or another. I got a minor concussion from a demonstrated back trip from my coach once.

Wrestling coaches are crazy but they wouldn't do that against a smaller kid, if it comes out that the coach is 6'+ and 235 then that's a different scenario completely.

The coach has to be huge because otherwise the father should have decked him, there is no reason for a coach to be involved in full contact drills, he can demonstrate all he wants but never full speed. This is the reason why kids straight out of higher school can't go to the nfl, they would get killed.

hbk72777: Do some of you farking idiots not know there is a difference between an adult who is 5'6 and 180 lbs and a kid with the same stats? The kid is still growing, his muscles and bones aren't fully hardened.

/Most of you pussies never put on pads anyway.

Yeah most of these guys have never been blindsided on kickoff coverage, once that happens once your head is on a swivel to avoid that shiat.

I once broke a kids collar bone in a game but I'm not a coach so its fine, I also saw one of our DBs almost bite his tongue in half on pass coverage, it was the most blood I had ever seen. I guess he learned to keep his mouthpiece in after that. I also tried to walk on at college, after getting hit by a couple of the other guys I realized why no big name college recruited me and should have taken the partial to holy cross.

FTA: Androsuk told us had his son been hit by another student and broke his collarbone, he wouldn't be as upset. It's the principal principle of a coach hitting his child that has him so angry. He's now thinking about contacting a lawyer to look into this.

Pet peeve.

Also, I can fully accept instances where a coach would provide physical instruction of a player on proper blocking or hitting techniques - but if that coach managed to break my 12-year-old son's friggin' collarbone doing so, then we'd be having a chat.

Unable to calibrate to a 12-year-old kid? Really? Either a) he's an idiot, or b) he's an asshole. Either way, he's out of a friggin' job. The idiot, I could forgive. The asshole, well, I'd probably be arrested demonstrating my displeasure.

WhyteRaven74: There's a football coach that needs to be arrested. Also the league is looking really bad dragging their feet given there's video of the incident.

Says the asshat who's never put on pads. Your opinion doesn't matter, as you're wrong. Little shiat should learn how to tackle.

FormlessOne: FTA: Androsuk told us had his son been hit by another student and broke his collarbone, he wouldn't be as upset. It's the principal principle of a coach hitting his child that has him so angry. He's now thinking about contacting a lawyer to look into this.

Pet peeve.

Also, I can fully accept instances where a coach would provide physical instruction of a player on proper blocking or hitting techniques - but if that coach managed to break my 12-year-old son's friggin' collarbone doing so, then we'd be having a chat.

Unable to calibrate to a 12-year-old kid? Really? Either a) he's an idiot, or b) he's an asshole. Either way, he's out of a friggin' job. The idiot, I could forgive. The asshole, well, I'd probably be arrested demonstrating my displeasure.

Collarbones are ridiculously easy to break. It doesn't need to be a hard hit, just a hit in the right spot.

CSB time:

One day during practice my freshman year, all the various positions were split up around the field running their various drills. The offensive backs were running pass routes with the head coach in the middle of the field, and I was with the o-line doing our drills with our line coach, Coach B, so called because his name was very long and hard to pronounce, and being a huge motherfarker, not the kind of guy you call by the wrong name. Coach B was in mid-sentence with us talking about technique when one of the receivers came slanting towards us while running his route with the backs. Coach B, without missing a step, ducks his shoulder and just levels Watson. His helmet came off and one of his cleats even popped up in the air. Coach B drags my buddy up by his shoulder pads and says very calmly, "Always mind your surroundings, Watson." and sent him on his way. Don't think I've ever heard so many people say "Daaaaaaammmmmnnnn!" at the same time.

/And not a single fark was given that day

Where is the Pedophile State thread? or is Fark sweeping it under the rug because it's a sainted B1G (

PluckYew: Where is the Pedophile State thread? or is Fark sweeping it under the rug because it's a sainted B1G (

Dumbass, look harder.

FTFM

Your Average Witty Fark User: WhyteRaven74: There's a football coach that needs to be arrested. Also the league is looking really bad dragging their feet given there's video of the incident.

Says the asshat who's never put on pads. Your opinion doesn't matter, as you're wrong. Little shiat should learn how to tackle.

You know I argue with WR74 a lot on fark but hes right in this case and I would be willing to bet you have never done anything more than sniff the jock straps in the locker room while dreaming you could be man enough to wear one.

mooseyfate: One day during practice my freshman year, all the various positions were split up around the field running their various drills. The offensive backs were running pass routes with the head coach in the middle of the field, and I was with the o-line doing our drills with our line coach, Coach B, so called because his name was very long and hard to pronounce, and being a huge motherfarker, not the kind of guy you call by the wrong name. Coach B was in mid-sentence with us talking about technique when one of the receivers came slanting towards us while running his route with the backs. Coach B, without missing a step, ducks his shoulder and just levels Watson. His helmet came off and one of his cleats even popped up in the air. Coach B drags my buddy up by his shoulder pads and says very calmly, "Always mind your surroundings, Watson." and sent him on his way. Don't think I've ever heard so many people say "Daaaaaaammmmmnnnn!" at the same time.

Are you implying its the same situation or just relating a story? Because its not even remotely the same.

hbk72777: Do some of you farking idiots not know there is a difference between an adult who is 5'6 and 180 lbs and a kid with the same stats? The kid is still growing, his muscles and bones aren't fully hardened.

/Most of youonly pussies never put on pads anyway.

As someone who has coached kids rugby, some things are better taught by me throwing my body on the line. If I get them to tackle me, I will make sure I am not running with my knees up, will keep my elbows out of the way and will go with the tackle. If I get the beginners (or the unco kids) to tackle each other, I will end up with a hell of a lot more injuries.

So, it is possible the coach was doing the right thing. Right up to the point where he didn't provide immediate first aid for a serious injury. Although, there are some kids who whine that they have broken their leg every time they get tackled and it gets hard to believe them every time.

steamingpile: Your Average Witty Fark User: WhyteRaven74: There's a football coach that needs to be arrested. Also the league is looking really bad dragging their feet given there's video of the incident.

Says the asshat who's never put on pads. Your opinion doesn't matter, as you're wrong. Little shiat should learn how to tackle.

You know I argue with WR74 a lot on fark but hes right in this case and I would be willing to bet you have never done anything more than sniff the jock straps in the locker room while dreaming you could be man enough to wear one.

Hey slappy, I still take the field 10 times a year with a minor league team. Do with that what you will.