Still,

Colts > Tebow

/amidoingitright?

Suck for Luck > Tebow

How could they possibly be this bad without Peyton Manning? It just doesn't seem possible. People want to blame it on injuries to key players, but the Colts have weathered key injuries before and won 10+ games. People also want to use the excuse that the team is built to protect leads, but we're 9 games into the season now, the coaches have had time to adjust the game plan. You can win a game with these players, it's not like Manning played like a saint every farking game. They've been behind before, they've gutted out low scoring games.

And what record would it take to get Caldwell fired? 0-10, 0-11, 0-12? When you get there, you start getting into historic amounts of failure. I'm sure only a handful of teams have gone 0-12. Even fewer have gone 0-13, or 0-14. Someone has to be responsible. They've lost their last 3 games by a combined score of 120 to 24. The defense is giving up an average of 31 points per game on the year, and the offense has only scored more than 20 points one time.

As a fan of the team, I just want to see someone in the front office act like they give a shiat. I don't think it's too much to ask to see some kind of change. You look at the Colts now and you wonder how they could ever win a game. And I know other fans are thinking the same. But you know what, basketball season starts soon, and you don't need the NBA to get your fill of basketball in the Hoosier state. This team is shedding an enormous amount of fair-weather fan weight this season, that's for sure. But even I have to admit, watching the Colts this year just... feels more and more like a waste of time. I changed the channel well before the end when they played the Saints, it was the only I could do to stop the sharp stabbing pain in my rectum while watching the defense play. I can deal with rebuilding years, I've been through plenty of them in the past. But this... fark.

Passive Aggressive Larry: How could they possibly be this bad without Peyton Manning? It just doesn't seem possible. People want to blame it on injuries to key players, but the Colts have weathered key injuries before and won 10+ games. People also want to use the excuse that the team is built to protect leads, but we're 9 games into the season now, the coaches have had time to adjust the game plan. You can win a game with these players, it's not like Manning played like a saint every farking game. They've been behind before, they've gutted out low scoring games.

And what record would it take to get Caldwell fired? 0-10, 0-11, 0-12? When you get there, you start getting into historic amounts of failure. I'm sure only a handful of teams have gone 0-12. Even fewer have gone 0-13, or 0-14. Someone has to be responsible. They've lost their last 3 games by a combined score of 120 to 24. The defense is giving up an average of 31 points per game on the year, and the offense has only scored more than 20 points one time.

As a fan of the team, I just want to see someone in the front office act like they give a shiat. I don't think it's too much to ask to see some kind of change. You look at the Colts now and you wonder how they could ever win a game. And I know other fans are thinking the same. But you know what, basketball season starts soon, and you don't need the NBA to get your fill of basketball in the Hoosier state. This team is shedding an enormous amount of fair-weather fan weight this season, that's for sure. But even I have to admit, watching the Colts this year just... feels more and more like a waste of time. I changed the channel well before the end when they played the Saints, it was the only I could do to stop the sharp stabbing pain in my rectum while watching the defense play. I can deal with rebuilding years, I've been through plenty of them in the past. But this... fark.

I like to think of it as karma.

Seriously.

You don't pass on the chance for a perfect season.

Ever.

/You also don't piss and moan like Bill Polian did after the Super Bowl about that onsides kick.

//Here's to hoping the Colts never win another game as long as the stench of Polian is attached to them.

///No offense to the Colts fans out there.

Even with a 100% healthy Peyton Manning, the Colts would not have won more than 2 games this year. The writing was on the wall before Manning encountered his troubles.

This will actually work out better for the Colts in the long run as they will "suck" the most, get the first pick, and trade away the pick and garner a haul equal or better to what the Saints got for Ricky Williams which will allow them to restock their system with the right players.

I'm not a Colts fan by any means, but to even begin to suggest that their 0-9 start is all on Peyton being injured is as crazy as saying Tebow is going to turn into a good QB.

Oh, and Jack Whittaker and his amazing good fortune after hitting the Powerball > Tebow

There's no shortage of excellent college quarterbacks who will enter the draft next year; Luck just has the most cheering him on. (Oh, and he's also pretty good.) If the Colts were to get a king's ransom for the first pick, they could draft Barkley or Moore (or, if they were really out there, even Keenum) after they pull in defensive player picks.

Mel Kiper, Jr.'s hair > Tebow

Farker Lewis Can't Lose: Even with a 100% healthy Peyton Manning, the Colts would not have won more than 2 games this year. The writing was on the wall before Manning encountered his troubles.

This will actually work out better for the Colts in the long run as they will "suck" the most, get the first pick, and trade away the pick and garner a haul equal or better to what the Saints got for Ricky Williams which will allow them to restock their system with the right players.

I'm not a Colts fan by any means, but to even begin to suggest that their 0-9 start is all on Peyton being injured is as crazy as saying Tebow is going to turn into a good QB.

Oh, and Jack Whittaker and his amazing good fortune after hitting the Powerball > Tebow


It's really not. I've been rooting for the Colts since they moved to Indy (back in the Harbaugh) days -- and I remember when Peyton got there. We had a potent triple attack back then with the Edge -- but we have NEVER had a defense that's above average.

There's really not a Colts fan around who is surprised by what's happening. For years, we've been begging our coaches to actually improve the Defense so Peyton and the offense didn't have to pull out a record-number come-from-behind wins.

The current state of the Colts really is a result of Peyton going out -- well, that and the decline of our offensive line. It's painful watching them every game, but it's a bit like when the entire league discovered the Patriots were cheating -- it was something we were already well aware of. We're glad everyone else is finally catching on.

If Peyton were playing, we would've lost a maximum of 3 games up to this point.

Passive Aggressive Larry: They've lost their last 3 games by a combined score of 120 to 24.

lolz

Blink: If Peyton were playing, we would've lost a maximum of 3 games up to this point.

Peyton may be a Hall of Fame QB, but that's like saying Mike Ditka was the entirety of Chicago's offense in the 80's.

A good QB on a bad team still results in a bad team. Look at New Orleans in the late 70s. They had a familiar name at QB.

Indy needs to rebuild from scratch. I think Herm Edwards had it correct when he said the best thing for Indy to do would be to trade Manning, and start over. Indy won't draft Luck, which is stupid, but they'll probably get a huge trade for him from somewhere, maybe Denver.

Passive Aggressive Larry: How could they possibly be this bad without Peyton Manning? It just doesn't seem possible. People want to blame it on injuries to key players, but the Colts have weathered key injuries before and won 10+ games. People also want to use the excuse that the team is built to protect leads, but we're 9 games into the season now, the coaches have had time to adjust the game plan. You can win a game with these players, it's not like Manning played like a saint every farking game. They've been behind before, they've gutted out low scoring games.

And what record would it take to get Caldwell fired? 0-10, 0-11, 0-12? When you get there, you start getting into historic amounts of failure. I'm sure only a handful of teams have gone 0-12. Even fewer have gone 0-13, or 0-14. Someone has to be responsible. They've lost their last 3 games by a combined score of 120 to 24. The defense is giving up an average of 31 points per game on the year, and the offense has only scored more than 20 points one time.

As a fan of the team, I just want to see someone in the front office act like they give a shiat. I don't think it's too much to ask to see some kind of change. You look at the Colts now and you wonder how they could ever win a game. And I know other fans are thinking the same. But you know what, basketball season starts soon, and you don't need the NBA to get your fill of basketball in the Hoosier state. This team is shedding an enormous amount of fair-weather fan weight this season, that's for sure. But even I have to admit, watching the Colts this year just... feels more and more like a waste of time. I changed the channel well before the end when they played the Saints, it was the only I could do to stop the sharp stabbing pain in my rectum while watching the defense play. I can deal with rebuilding years, I've been through plenty of them in the past. But this... fark.

They're going to get to 0-14 and then screw up their perfect season with a win.

The sad part is the score doesn't even reflect how lopsided this game was, without one mistimed pass the colts don't score at all and with atlantas defense that is just sad.

domdare: Passive Aggressive Larry: How could they possibly be this bad without Peyton Manning? It just doesn't seem possible. People want to blame it on injuries to key players, but the Colts have weathered key injuries before and won 10+ games. People also want to use the excuse that the team is built to protect leads, but we're 9 games into the season now, the coaches have had time to adjust the game plan. You can win a game with these players, it's not like Manning played like a saint every farking game. They've been behind before, they've gutted out low scoring games.

And what record would it take to get Caldwell fired? 0-10, 0-11, 0-12? When you get there, you start getting into historic amounts of failure. I'm sure only a handful of teams have gone 0-12. Even fewer have gone 0-13, or 0-14. Someone has to be responsible. They've lost their last 3 games by a combined score of 120 to 24. The defense is giving up an average of 31 points per game on the year, and the offense has only scored more than 20 points one time.

As a fan of the team, I just want to see someone in the front office act like they give a shiat. I don't think it's too much to ask to see some kind of change. You look at the Colts now and you wonder how they could ever win a game. And I know other fans are thinking the same. But you know what, basketball season starts soon, and you don't need the NBA to get your fill of basketball in the Hoosier state. This team is shedding an enormous amount of fair-weather fan weight this season, that's for sure. But even I have to admit, watching the Colts this year just... feels more and more like a waste of time. I changed the channel well before the end when they played the Saints, it was the only I could do to stop the sharp stabbing pain in my rectum while watching the defense play. I can deal with rebuilding years, I've been through plenty of them in the past. But this... fark.

They're going to get to 0-14 and then screw up their perfect season with a win.

I think, for what it's worth (nothing), that without Manning teams are no longer afraid to go after them. With him, you knew if you turned the ball over or went three and out that they would probably score. Their D has never been scary like the Ravens or Steelers, the running game hasn't been top level since James was in his prime, and without Manning's quick release, blitzes are the norm against them. They haven't had an impact rookie play in a number of years, so I would put the blame at the top of the organization.

As a Colts fan this season has saved me a lot of time, money and stress.
I no longer go to the bar so I can watch the game live, not doing this has also cleared up my schedule.
When the game is on my tv I no longer need to watch the whole game, and I've yet to get stressed at the end of a game because its coming down to the wire.
And I sure as hell havent been buying any merch this season.

GimpyNip: The best part of the Colts season is reading half their fans admit they were just riding the bandwagon. You'd think a team that plays in a dome would have fans that didn't care about the weather.

What's even more amusing is that Rodgers is doing so well that Colts fans can't even console themselves with ridiculous claims like, 'Peyton Manning should be MVP!'

I think the fact that he isnt on the field supercedes other player's performance in his stake in the MVP race.

small poll:
Which current basement team do you think will be the scariest next year?
A. Colts
B. Dolphins
C. Vikings
D. Panthers
E. NFC West

My vote would be the Panthers, since except for the Falcons game, all of their losses have been by a TD or less. It's like they're only missing -one- little piece on defense.

There have been good arguments for the Colts too, especially if Peyton comes back healthy and they trade away their first/high pick for a grab bag of goodies.

Who wins next ... Colts or Pacers?

/Laughing my ass off in section 640
//Julio Jones was a good start yesterday

The Bestest: small poll:
Which current basement team do you think will be the scariest next year?
A. Colts
B. Dolphins
C. Vikings
D. Panthers
E. NFC West

My vote would be the Panthers, since except for the Falcons game, all of their losses have been by a TD or less. It's like they're only missing -one- little piece on defense.

There have been good arguments for the Colts too, especially if Peyton comes back healthy and they trade away their first/high pick for a grab bag of goodies.

The Vikings, but that depends on who their QB is next year. Ponder is pretty much the opposite of scary. But if they go with someone like Barkley, with the other talent they have on offense, they'd win some games in their division.

Since I live in Los Angeles, I've been a free-agent fan since the Rams left for Anaheim. I've been a Colts fan since they got Manning, so I've seen the team suck with him before. It's just that it seems the team needs a complete overhaul at this point.

Addai is simply too injury prone at this point, don't think Carter and/or Brown are the solution at RB
Wayne & Clark are on the downsides of their career, don't think Collie or anyone else is going to step up to replace them
The woes on the O-line are well documented, Jeff Saturday can't play forever
Mathis and Freeney can't play forever
The emphasis on speed instead of muscle on defense just doesn't work anymore, the Colts get steamrolled far too often
The safeties and corners are a mess, need to completely rebuild there

At least Pat McAfee is a really good punter, though the cheapness on spending on special teams constantly hurts the team.

The Wilderness Years beckon.

GimpyNip: The best part of the Colts season is reading half their fans admit they were just riding the bandwagon. You'd think a team that plays in a dome would have fans that didn't care about the weather.

What's even more amusing is that Rodgers is doing so well that Colts fans can't even console themselves with ridiculous claims like, 'Peyton Manning should be MVP!'


My favorite part is how people pretend that Colts fans are bandwagonners -- yet in every thread about the Colts, the fans have stated time and again that they're sticking by their team -- but it's just really painful to watch them play.

If you want to see bandwagon, go to Boston. In Indiana, we really don't have much else entertainment-wise to watch, so the chances of us dumping the Colts because they suck isn't even on the table.

Just because you really want to believe something -- it doesn't make it true.

Henry Holland:
At least Pat McAfee is a really good punter, though the cheapness on spending on special teams constantly hurts the team.

Pat McAfee has saved more than a couple of touchdowns on kick-offs and punts this year. He really is the best ST player they have. It's hard to think about how much worse they would be without him.

Y'know...seeing as how desperate the 'Skins are for a decent QB, I wouldn't be surprised at the following scenario:

1. Colts get the #1 pick.
2. Redskins (read: Daniel Snyder) gives Irsay a call and gives him an offer he can't (possibly) refuse: Their entire 2012 draft (including their top 10 pick) and/or a first and second round pick they haven't already given away in a future draft for the #1 pick.

Irsay could refuse it of course; considering the crap display by Beck on Sunday...Snyder's going to get very desperate to make a splash.

Farker Lewis Can't Lose: Even with a 100% healthy Peyton Manning, the Colts would not have won more than 2 games this year.

Dear God....

I was at the game. We scalped 100 Section row 22 for about $50 a ticket. I've never seen tickets that low at any NFL game. Shoot, I got nosebleed tickets for a Bronco's game for $65.00 one time and I was excited.

The cool part is, that it's all the rich season ticket holders that are off-loading their tickets. So the stadium was still packed, and everyone down in the 100 section were pretty cool and not douche bags.

GimpyNip: The best part of the Colts season is reading half their fans admit they were just riding the bandwagon. You'd think a team that plays in a dome would have fans that didn't care about the weather.

What's even more amusing is that Rodgers is doing so well that Colts fans can't even console themselves with ridiculous claims like, 'Peyton Manning should be MVP!'


Not really. Games are still packed and there is Blue & White everywhere.
Come on down for a game sometime and you'll see.

I'd say that the chances are very good that the Colts may well end up with a perfect 0-16 record, especially if they keep Caldwell around.

The biggest threat to this is obviously home and away games with the Jacksonville Jaguars, averaging a pitiful 12 points a game. And the best chance of that is next week, when they host them in Indianapolis. The Colts seem to play a bit better at home, and they also have three games with the Panthers, the Titans and the Texans there. But Houston and Tennessee have already beaten them soundly and it is unlikely that they will be able to outscore Cam Newton and the Panthers. Their other two games are on the road against the Patriots and the Ravens; if they stay within 20 points in those games it would be a surprise.

The key to their perfect season is their coach Jim Caldwell, and how long they keep him around. For whatever reason, the Colts have quit playing for him, and you know he isn't going to pull out any games with his advanced coaching techniques. (calling timeout on defense against the Jets in the playoffs comes to mind). So long as they keep this bozo around, they have a shot at it. A new coach might upset the status quo and make them remember that they actually are an NFL quality team.

Everybody is laughing till the Colts have Manning and Luck. What a year to go 0-16

mentallo69: Everybody is laughing till the Colts have Manning and Luck. What a year to go 0-16

No way. They will surely blow it. You see, they'll get all the way to 0-15 but rather than go for the history of Luck, they'll rest their starters the final week and go 1-15 (losing the pick to the Rams)

Farker Lewis Can't Lose: Even with a 100% healthy Peyton Manning, the Colts would not have won more than 2 games this year. The writing was on the wall before Manning encountered his troubles.

This will actually work out better for the Colts in the long run as they will "suck" the most, get the first pick, and trade away the pick and garner a haul equal or better to what the Saints got for Ricky Williams which will allow them to restock their system with the right players.

I'm not a Colts fan by any means, but to even begin to suggest that their 0-9 start is all on Peyton being injured is as crazy as saying Tebow is going to turn into a good QB.

Oh, and Jack Whittaker and his amazing good fortune after hitting the Powerball > Tebow

Say what??? Oh my dear lord.

This team is mostly unchanged from last year. The only three players of note that are no longer with the team are Bob Sanders, Kelvin Hayden and Charlie Johnson.
Peyton went 10-6 and took that team to the playoff (PLAYOFFS?) even after losing Dallas Clark, Bob Sanders, Austin Collie, Anthony Gonzales, Mike Hart, Melvin Bullitt, Clint Session, and Joe Addai, for significant time.
Also hurt and out for 3-4 games were Gary Brackett, Jaurod Powers, Kelvin Hayden, and Jacob Lacy.

This team, up until this week has been pretty much full strength, save Manning. Last year, 10-6 with Manning and ravaged by injuries. This year, full strength and no Manning: 0-9.

So, in summary, you have no farking clue about what you're talking. .

SomeCapn: Peyton Manning for MVP

I get why they are saying that but since he's not playing he's no eligible in my mind, although it does point out how one player can save a team.

They wouldn't be great with him but they would at least be .500 and competitive, I think they may end up trading the top pick and just get barkley or another one of the QBs.

varmitydog: The key to their perfect season is their coach Jim Caldwell, and how long they keep him around. For whatever reason, the Colts have quit playing for him, and you know he isn't going to pull out any games with his advanced coaching techniques.

THIS

How is possible for Caldwell to still have a job??? Not his fault Peyton's neck is all messed up, but this team quit against NO.

/and, no, it's not 'cause he's black - lots of excellent black assistants to replace a guy everyone quit on