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2011-11-06 08:01:17 AM
I thought that dyslexia was when you keep mixing up the order of the letters as you read them, not simply confusing letters with each other because they look similar. How is a font supposed to help with the former?
 
2011-11-06 08:08:52 AM
Apparently I was wrong. Google says that mixing up the order of letters in a word is not a typical sign of dyslexia, just a common misconception that makes for funnier jokes on the internet. I guess it is like people with Tourette's syndrome who are actually not all constantly spewing insults in real life.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2011-11-06 08:09:58 AM
News from 2012: Conventional fonts declared ADA violations, companies required to use Dyslexie on all web sites.
 
2011-11-06 08:33:14 AM
To the besign subio's wedsite (new window) now with orbering information
 
2011-11-06 08:43:53 AM
profile.ak.fbcdn.net
 
2011-11-06 08:59:43 AM
I has music dyslexkia. You know that. I... don't wish to talk about it.
 
2011-11-06 09:42:13 AM
Oh god, I am not going to enjoy the day that this, or some similar font, becomes commonplace, whether in business or casual use, so that dyslexics can read the content better. I can't imagine how much of an eyestrain it would for everyone else. Like reading a book while wearing glasses that aren't for your prescription.

You think the whole "comic sans" hate is bad now...
 
2011-11-06 09:48:56 AM

hogans: I has music dyslexkia. You know that. I... don't wish to talk about it.


Wow, a Metalocalypse reference. Nicely done. Haven't seen that show in a long time. That was one of the funniest scenes I remember, along with the food library

\douchebag
 
2011-11-06 09:54:24 AM
Still no cure for dysgraphia.
 
2011-11-06 10:03:33 AM

Loki-L: Apparently I was wrong. Google says that mixing up the order of letters in a word is not a typical sign of dyslexia, just a common misconception that makes for funnier jokes on the internet. I guess it is like people with Tourette's syndrome who are actually not all constantly spewing insults in real life.


Actually its more like the subunits of words get confused (phonemes). As such, one way to "overcome" dyslexia is to just read a lot to the point that one isn't relying on recognizing words based on subunits, but is recognizing a word as a whole. Processing a word as an entire unit (rather than a selection of subunits) works around the deficit many dyslexics have. The idea of a word being visually represented as a single unit is also why dyslexics usually have no problems with Asian characters. In fact, my very dyslexic friend was easily able to gain fluency in Chinese after living in china for only two years.

Of course dyslexia does exist in china, however it appears to be a different rarer disorder than the more common western dyslexia as the children also have visual spatial defects (which causes them to be unable to discern characters) in addition to phonological defects.

While I haven't found any evidence of it, I bet you could modestly help dyslexics if you used a consistent font that made words easier to discern and aid in the ability to recognize said words as whole units rather than relying on phonological processing. However you'd have to use said font for everything, email, books, etc in order to gain proficiency at it and it wouldn't help as much when faced with a novel font, making it somewhat impractical.
 
2011-11-06 10:25:11 AM
Well played, Subby...that title made my head hurt.
 
2011-11-06 10:27:02 AM
I swear I saw this on FARK about a year ago. . .
 
2011-11-06 10:49:06 AM
Oh no: A study will be done and all employers will be required to provide 'dyslexie' documents to any employee who underperforms. This and asbestos removal regulations are going cost the taxpayers millions, MILLIONS I tell you!!
 
2011-11-06 11:22:58 AM
Hey everybody I have an idea to help people who need it. GIVE ME €445 AND YOU CAN USE IT! to help people.
 
2011-11-06 11:25:49 AM
Shouldn't people be concentrating on a cure instead of finding ways to adapt until a cure is found? Seems like if people did concentrate on finding a cure to any problem instead of looking for ways to adapt to any problem until a cure is found would result in a cure being found at an earlier date.
 
2011-11-06 11:27:10 AM
As a dyslexic myself, I prayed to dog this day would happen.
 
2011-11-06 12:07:14 PM
Dyslexics untie!
 
2011-11-06 12:11:42 PM
Font = Type Face (Arial) + Size (11) + Style (bold/italic/underline) + Color (black, red)

Arial is a TYPE FACE.

Arial, 11pt, italic is a FONT.
 
2011-11-06 12:40:47 PM

ZAZ: News from 2012: Conventional fonts declared ADA violations, companies required to use Dyslexie on all web sites.


Farkin' fartbongo.
 
2011-11-06 12:45:57 PM
Next weeks headline:

"ADA requires all State a Federal type face be changed to dyslexie"
 
2011-11-06 01:10:19 PM
Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf:

Shouldn't people be concentrating on a cure instead of finding ways to adapt until a cure is found? Seems like if people did concentrate on finding a cure to any problem instead of looking for ways to adapt to any problem until a cure is found would result in a cure being found at an earlier date.

Are you saying that the graphic artist who designed this font should be in the lab performing research?

It's a false choice, kinda like asking "why work on better prosthetic limbs when we should be working on regeneration? You can work on cures AND mitigation at the same time.

What if we don't find the cure for decades? What if we find the cure tomorrow, and it's genetic... Great for future generations, but it would be useless every dyslexic alive today.
 
2011-11-06 01:15:43 PM
wood_stones:

Next weeks headline:

"ADA requires all State a Federal type face be changed to dyslexie"


Just like they require all state and Federal documents to be on cassette tape for the blind, right? Oh... Wait... They don't.

Dyslexics could install this font on their computer just as the blind install reader software on theirs.
 
2011-11-06 01:38:19 PM

apeiron242: Font = Type Face (Arial) + Size (11) + Style (bold/italic/underline) + Color (black, red)

Arial is a TYPE FACE.

Arial, 11pt, italic is a FONT.


I didn't realize that apeiron242 and pedantic asshole rhymed.
 
2011-11-06 01:53:09 PM
Thankfully the font isn't that annoying.
Comic Sans though....
 
2011-11-06 02:12:51 PM

traylor: Still no cure for dysgraphia.


the cure for dysgraphia does exist but involves killing all spelling and grammar nazis because nobody else cares

/was diagnosed with dyslexic dysgraphia when i was 6
 
2011-11-06 03:52:57 PM

apeiron242: Font = Type Face (Arial) + Size (11) + Style (bold/italic/underline) + Color (black, red)

Arial is a TYPE FACE.

Arial, 11pt, italic is a FONT.


I imagine this is what your birthday cards are like

imgs.xkcd.com
 
2011-11-06 04:00:52 PM

apeiron242: Font = Type Face (Arial) + Size (11) + Style (bold/italic/underline) + Color (black, red)

Arial is a TYPE FACE.

Arial, 11pt, italic is a FONT.


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2011-11-06 04:18:02 PM

apeiron242: Font = Type Face (Arial) + Size (11) + Style (bold/italic/underline) + Color (black, red)

Arial is a TYPE FACE.

Arial, 11pt, italic is a FONT.


In the context of computers, the word font has overcome typeface. You install "fonts", not "type faces".
 
2011-11-06 05:00:59 PM
I have number dsylexia it's the reason I can't graduate college.
 
2011-11-06 07:12:28 PM
www.rstolley.com

weknowmemes.com
 
2011-11-06 07:23:49 PM
This is an important innovation for kids who can't read good and wanna learn to do other stuff good too.
 
2011-11-06 08:11:25 PM

Dimensio: This is an important innovation for kids who can't read good and wanna learn to do other stuff good too.


What is this? A font for ants?
 
2011-11-06 08:27:37 PM
Ariel is a horrible font to read. Times Roman or Times New Roman is far easier to read since it leaves brush stroke ends to indicate the direction of the letters.

Pull up a word processor and see for yourself. Heck, the article is in a better font then Ariel.

\Ariel can DIAF
 
2011-11-06 10:30:15 PM

gozar_the_destroyer: Ariel is a horrible font to read. Times Roman or Times New Roman is far easier to read since it leaves brush stroke ends to indicate the direction of the letters.

Pull up a word processor and see for yourself. Heck, the article is in a better font then Ariel.

\Ariel can DIAF


I'm not sure why you chose to misspell Arial, but the term you're looking for is serif. Fonts with little strokes on the bottom are called serif fonts. They've done quite a few studies, and while I agree about not being a big fan of Arial, on a screen, serif fonts are actually harder to read than sans serif fonts. Hence the wide spread standard on every OS to use them as default.
 
2011-11-06 11:33:24 PM
In theory, end-users are supposed to be able to make their browsers display whatever font they choose... I think. In practice, I have no idea.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2011-11-07 07:09:34 AM
Sgeo

There's an arms race. Originally the browser chose. Then web sites added font directives. Then came CSS which says the browser chooses unless the web page chooses unless the user chooses unless the web page says no really this is !important unless the user says no mine is more !important. Designers hate the whole idea of browsers contributing to page layout so they render text into images and display those and those images can't even be rescaled without becoming unreadable. I hear there's now an option to push fonts onto the browser. And flash has long been a favorite way to bypass HTML.

I don't know how to install a style sheet into my browser, so the web site wins. If it's annoying I pick a different web site. (I could learn how to install a style sheet -- I've written designed-by-an-engineer-and-it-shows CSS for a web page -- but I've never cared.)
 
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