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2011-11-06 09:27:12 AM
A Stern interview with Cain would be entertaining as hell.
 
2011-11-06 10:09:28 AM
Stern's politics are all over the place. He hated Bush, watches Fox news, thinks all of the current Republican candidates are morans, and seldom has anything good to say about Obama.

Oh, and I'm not going to click on a Failbart link, but from what I recall, he thinks Cain is a complete nutjob for his ridiculous "Abortion is a private matter that government shouldn't be involved in, but it shouldn't be legal" position. He just doesn't think the sexual harassment broohaha is a big deal. What a shocker.
 
2011-11-06 10:22:44 AM
he's toast.
 
2011-11-06 10:25:38 AM
Tor_Eckman: Stern's politics are all over the place. He hated Bush, watches Fox news, thinks all of the current Republican candidates are morans, and seldom has anything good to say about Obama.

Oh, and I'm not going to click on a Failbart link, but from what I recall, he thinks Cain is a complete nutjob for his ridiculous "Abortion is a private matter that government shouldn't be involved in, but it shouldn't be legal" position. He just doesn't think the sexual harassment broohaha is a big deal. What a shocker.


I like Howard Stern. I also didn't see anything wrong with what Cain said. I may not like abortion but if she wants to do it that's her choice. The government has no right to interfere.
 
2011-11-06 10:28:15 AM
One more freak for the freakshow.
 
2011-11-06 10:29:47 AM
The comment section is pure gold.

Smear ya think? They do not want Cain on either side of aisle.1) The doors will be open to any person with a non- political back round. Heaven forbid the little people can do their job.2) Cain is a Conservative...that breaths fear into the heart of any one in D.C. 3) He is a real Black man. Unlike the Obama. 4)Cain would NEVER let the OWS people get a foothold.These people are ACORN reinvented and dirtier. It is time for Conservatives to listen to our hearts and minds, unite and we will win!

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2011-11-06 10:32:29 AM
Howard Stern invented sexual harassment.
 
2011-11-06 10:32:59 AM
Of course it's a smear job - Politics as usual. Hopefully it works as well as Paula Jones' attempt to keep Clinton out of the White house.
 
2011-11-06 10:33:27 AM
Tor_Eckman: Stern's politics are all over the place. He hated Bush, watches Fox news, thinks all of the current Republican candidates are morans, and seldom has anything good to say about Obama.

Oh, and I'm not going to click on a Failbart link, but from what I recall, he thinks Cain is a complete nutjob for his ridiculous "Abortion is a private matter that government shouldn't be involved in, but it shouldn't be legal" position. He just doesn't think the sexual harassment broohaha is a big deal. What a shocker.


He's a professional snarkmeister and contrarian. Pretty sure he's not contractually allowed to like anything that isn't advertising on his show.

/never listened to Stern's radio show
 
2011-11-06 10:45:09 AM
The double shot of irrelevancy in the article is mind blowing
 
2011-11-06 10:47:46 AM
LaBlueSkuld: Brought to you by a user named "Batcountry".

I didn't know Hunter Thompson was a conservative hero.
 
2011-11-06 10:58:35 AM
Howard Stern spent around an hour talking about what a jerkoff Cain is and playing his bumbling sound bites. Then he makes that one comment "It's a smear job" and now it's ZOMG Howard Stern's defending Cain!1!!11
 
2011-11-06 11:02:53 AM
deadcrickets: Tor_Eckman: Stern's politics are all over the place. He hated Bush, watches Fox news, thinks all of the current Republican candidates are morans, and seldom has anything good to say about Obama.

Oh, and I'm not going to click on a Failbart link, but from what I recall, he thinks Cain is a complete nutjob for his ridiculous "Abortion is a private matter that government shouldn't be involved in, but it shouldn't be legal" position. He just doesn't think the sexual harassment broohaha is a big deal. What a shocker.

I like Howard Stern. I also didn't see anything wrong with what Cain said. I may not like abortion but if she wants to do it that's her choice. The government has no right to interfere.


You don't understand. In the same sentence, he said abortion shouldn't be legal. So it's a personal matter that government shouldn't be involved in, but it should be against the law.

Admitting confusion as to Cain's actual viewpoint, Stossel asked: "If a woman is raped, she should not be allowed to end the pregnancy?" To which Cain responded: "That's her choice. That is not government's choice. I support life from conception."

Continued Stossel: "So, abortion should be legal?"

Answered Cain: "No, abortion should not be legal. I believe in the sanctity of life."


Video of the interview. (new window)
 
2011-11-06 11:04:48 AM
Howard Stern listener here for many years. I like Howard, because he's not dead set in either direction, like me. He frequently mentions he watches Fox News every night, but at the same time, he's pro gay rights, voted for Obama, and typically supports more left-ish candidated. He's got his more "right" oriented views as well (he makes fun of OWS all the time and thinks it's silly.) He's definitely not a Cain supporter, so this story is bullshiat.
 
2011-11-06 11:29:41 AM
The first GOP candidate to ride the sybian gets my vote

/Jerry Brown delegate 1992
 
2011-11-06 11:30:44 AM
henryhill: The double shot of irrelevancy in the article is mind blowing

Triple shot; Cain, Stern and Breitbart.
 
2011-11-06 11:31:15 AM
Of course it's a smear campaign, that's how politics works. It's like fox news always using the word "agenda" as some sort of dog whistle danger word, as if groups don't have plans or goals.
 
2011-11-06 11:31:44 AM
antidisestablishmentarianism: LaBlueSkuld: Brought to you by a user named "Batcountry".

I didn't know Hunter Thompson was a conservative hero.


They think that because he was a gun collector, he was a right wing authoritarian douchebag just like them instead of the polare opposite.
 
2011-11-06 11:32:19 AM
Tor_Eckman: deadcrickets: Tor_Eckman: Stern's politics are all over the place. He hated Bush, watches Fox news, thinks all of the current Republican candidates are morans, and seldom has anything good to say about Obama.

Oh, and I'm not going to click on a Failbart link, but from what I recall, he thinks Cain is a complete nutjob for his ridiculous "Abortion is a private matter that government shouldn't be involved in, but it shouldn't be legal" position. He just doesn't think the sexual harassment broohaha is a big deal. What a shocker.

I like Howard Stern. I also didn't see anything wrong with what Cain said. I may not like abortion but if she wants to do it that's her choice. The government has no right to interfere.

You don't understand. In the same sentence, he said abortion shouldn't be legal. So it's a personal matter that government shouldn't be involved in, but it should be against the law.

Admitting confusion as to Cain's actual viewpoint, Stossel asked: "If a woman is raped, she should not be allowed to end the pregnancy?" To which Cain responded: "That's her choice. That is not government's choice. I support life from conception."

Continued Stossel: "So, abortion should be legal?"

Answered Cain: "No, abortion should not be legal. I believe in the sanctity of life."

Video of the interview. (new window)


Was this the unrevised version or the later revised version after FOX News went ballistic?
 
2011-11-06 11:32:47 AM
Polare...Ohwoah..Cantare...
 
2011-11-06 11:33:28 AM
deadcrickets: Tor_Eckman: Stern's politics are all over the place. He hated Bush, watches Fox news, thinks all of the current Republican candidates are morans, and seldom has anything good to say about Obama.

Oh, and I'm not going to click on a Failbart link, but from what I recall, he thinks Cain is a complete nutjob for his ridiculous "Abortion is a private matter that government shouldn't be involved in, but it shouldn't be legal" position. He just doesn't think the sexual harassment broohaha is a big deal. What a shocker.

I like Howard Stern. I also didn't see anything wrong with what Cain said. I may not like abortion but if she wants to do it that's her choice. The government has no right to interfere.
 
2011-11-06 11:37:27 AM
Tremolo: henryhill: The double shot of irrelevancy in the article is mind blowing

Triple shot; Cain, Stern and Breitbart.


Frontrunner for a presidential election, a guy with a popular rightwing news site, and a talk show host...did we change the definition of irrelevant? I don't like two out of the three, and the one I do like ain't what he used to be (Howard,) but I'd say Mr. Pizza is far from irrelevant at this point in time. That, of course, is volatile and could change at any minute.
 
2011-11-06 11:38:19 AM
Tor_Eckman: Stern's politics are all over the place. He hated Bush, watches Fox news, thinks all of the current Republican candidates are morans, and seldom has anything good to say about Obama.

I think Howard is generally good at heart but it's clear that once he hears something on the news, he takes it at truth and can't remember where it came from. To his credit, he's at least somewhat cynical about anything having to do with politics.
 
2011-11-06 11:41:49 AM
physt: Tor_Eckman: Stern's politics are all over the place. He hated Bush, watches Fox news, thinks all of the current Republican candidates are morans, and seldom has anything good to say about Obama.

I think Howard is generally good at heart but it's clear that once he hears something on the news, he takes it at truth and can't remember where it came from. To his credit, he's at least somewhat cynical about anything having to do with politics.


As much as I like Howard and the show, he, and especially Robin, are pretty much morons on factual information. The only difference between the two is, Robin states false things with forceful authority, like she's proud that half the shiat she says isn't true.
 
2011-11-06 11:42:07 AM
JLEM: antidisestablishmentarianism: LaBlueSkuld: Brought to you by a user named "Batcountry".

I didn't know Hunter Thompson was a conservative hero.

They think that because he was a gun collector, he was a right wing authoritarian douchebag just like them instead of the polare opposite.


I would call HST a conservative.
 
2011-11-06 11:49:02 AM
T.M.S.: JLEM: antidisestablishmentarianism: LaBlueSkuld: Brought to you by a user named "Batcountry".

I didn't know Hunter Thompson was a conservative hero.

They think that because he was a gun collector, he was a right wing authoritarian douchebag just like them instead of the polare opposite.

I would call HST a conservative.


I think he was one of the few people in public life you could could say truly was a libertarian, in that he wanted government to fark off completely. Too many "libertarians" still want the government to interfere in social issues (see also Paul, Ron.)
 
2011-11-06 11:50:50 AM
JLEM: antidisestablishmentarianism: LaBlueSkuld: Brought to you by a user named "Batcountry".

I didn't know Hunter Thompson was a conservative hero.

They think that because he was a gun collector, he was a right wing authoritarian douchebag just like them instead of the polare opposite.


WIKI: In 1970, Thompson ran for sheriff of Pitkin County, Colorado, as part of a group of citizens running for local offices on the "Freak Power" ticket. The platform included promoting the decriminalization of drugs (for personal use only, not trafficking, as he disapproved of profiteering), tearing up the streets and turning them into grassy pedestrian malls, banning any building so tall as to obscure the view of the mountains, and renaming Aspen "Fat City" to deter investors. Thompson, having shaved his head, referred to the Republican candidate as "my long-haired opponent", as he wore a crew cut.
 
2011-11-06 11:53:44 AM
topcon: Tremolo: henryhill: The double shot of irrelevancy in the article is mind blowing

Triple shot; Cain, Stern and Breitbart.

Frontrunner for a presidential election, a guy with a popular rightwing news site, and a talk show host...did we change the definition of irrelevant? I don't like two out of the three, and the one I do like ain't what he used to be (Howard,) but I'd say Mr. Pizza is far from irrelevant at this point in time. That, of course, is volatile and could change at any minute.


I think you mean flavor-of-the month "Koch brother from another mother" who didn't know China had nuclear weapons, disgraced pundit using daddy's money to smear dems (no, Weinergate did not vindicate his previous tactics), and shock-jock radio host who hasn't shocked anyone since the mid nineties. Triple shot.
 
2011-11-06 11:57:32 AM
T.M.S.: I would call HST a conservative.

Perhaps in the Teddy Roosevelt sense. Not the fascist sense that's prevalent these days. He hated Nixon, Reagan, and both Bushes with a fervor.
 
2011-11-06 12:05:23 PM
AnonAmbientLight: deadcrickets: Tor_Eckman: Stern's politics are all over the place. He hated Bush, watches Fox news, thinks all of the current Republican candidates are morans, and seldom has anything good to say about Obama.

Oh, and I'm not going to click on a Failbart link, but from what I recall, he thinks Cain is a complete nutjob for his ridiculous "Abortion is a private matter that government shouldn't be involved in, but it shouldn't be legal" position. He just doesn't think the sexual harassment broohaha is a big deal. What a shocker.

I like Howard Stern. I also didn't see anything wrong with what Cain said. I may not like abortion but if she wants to do it that's her choice. The government has no right to interfere.


His original statement was that it should be left up to the individual, not the government. That is a more Libertarian position and one I support.

His exact statements that you want to distort:

"It's not the government's role -- or anybody else's role -- to make that decision," he said. "So what I'm saying is, it ultimately gets down to a choice that that family or that mother has to make. Not me as president. Not some politician. Not a bureaucrat. It gets down to that family. And whatever they decide, they decide."
 
2011-11-06 12:05:31 PM
Cain is totally going to lose it one of these days when being questioned about his past. You can just see him seething and trying to keep his composure when reporters start laying into him. The more the media thinks they can get him to explode, the more they're going to go after him. It's going to be pretty goddamn epic to see.
 
2011-11-06 12:05:37 PM
antidisestablishmentarianism: LaBlueSkuld: Brought to you by a user named "Batcountry".

I didn't know Hunter Thompson was a conservative hero.


He is, to conservatives who've never read his work and like to think of themselves as Real Men™. They likely know that he loved guns and explosions and things that go fast, and stopped there.
 
2011-11-06 12:15:03 PM
ThisNameSux: Cain is totally going to lose it one of these days when being questioned about his past. You can just see him seething and trying to keep his composure when reporters start laying into him. The more the media thinks they can get him to explode, the more they're going to go after him. It's going to be pretty goddamn epic to see.

Kind of like that corporate guy on a law and order who was using "black rage" as a temporary insanity defense.
 
2011-11-06 12:15:17 PM
JLEM: T.M.S.: I would call HST a conservative.

Perhaps in the Teddy Roosevelt sense. Not the fascist sense that's prevalent these days. He hated Nixon, Reagan, and both Bushes with a fervor.


His love for Kerry always mystified me.

True, over the top adoration. Always seemed a tad excessive. Even if the alternate was so much worse.
 
2011-11-06 12:20:50 PM
deadcrickets: AnonAmbientLight: deadcrickets: Tor_Eckman: Stern's politics are all over the place. He hated Bush, watches Fox news, thinks all of the current Republican candidates are morans, and seldom has anything good to say about Obama.

Oh, and I'm not going to click on a Failbart link, but from what I recall, he thinks Cain is a complete nutjob for his ridiculous "Abortion is a private matter that government shouldn't be involved in, but it shouldn't be legal" position. He just doesn't think the sexual harassment broohaha is a big deal. What a shocker.

I like Howard Stern. I also didn't see anything wrong with what Cain said. I may not like abortion but if she wants to do it that's her choice. The government has no right to interfere.

His original statement was that it should be left up to the individual, not the government. That is a more Libertarian position and one I support.

His exact statements that you want to distort:

"It's not the government's role -- or anybody else's role -- to make that decision," he said. "So what I'm saying is, it ultimately gets down to a choice that that family or that mother has to make. Not me as president. Not some politician. Not a bureaucrat. It gets down to that family. And whatever they decide, they decide."


Dude, I quoted exactly what he said to Stossel and provided a link to the video where he says it. Nothing out of context or distorted. He later tried to backpedal when some of his opponents and the media jumped all over him, but he only served to confuse the issue further. Here it is again:

Admitting confusion as to Cain's actual viewpoint, Stossel asked: "If a woman is raped, she should not be allowed to end the pregnancy?" To which Cain responded: "That's her choice. That is not government's choice. I support life from conception."

Continued Stossel: "So, abortion should be legal?"

Answered Cain: "No, abortion should not be legal. I believe in the sanctity of life."


Please point out the distortion.
 
2011-11-06 12:28:14 PM
ThisNameSux: Cain is totally going to lose it one of these days when being questioned about his past. You can just see him seething and trying to keep his composure when reporters start laying into him. The more the media thinks they can get him to explode, the more they're going to go after him. It's going to be pretty goddamn epic to see.

He's already started to crack. He got snippy with reporters after his debate with Gingrich. AP and Reuters picked up the story and it broke this morning in Canada and the UK, but aside from blogs, the only US mention I've found is on ABC's site. Both the Canadian and British (exerpted below) sources described him as agitated and say he "snapped", while ABC says he "replied", which I found interesting.

Growing agitated with reporters after a one-on-one debate with rival Newt Gingrich, the former business executive suggested the reporters who asked questions about the allegations were unethical. Asked if he planned to never answer questions about the incidents, he was certain.

"You got it," he snapped, even as the allegations leave plenty of doubts about Cain's candidacy.
 
2011-11-06 12:32:56 PM
BaBa Booey...meet KaKa Kochy. KaKa Kochy...BaBa Booey.
 
2011-11-06 12:50:56 PM
Tor_Eckman: deadcrickets: AnonAmbientLight: deadcrickets: Tor_Eckman: Stern's politics are all over the place. He hated Bush, watches Fox news, thinks all of the current Republican candidates are morans, and seldom has anything good to say about Obama.

Oh, and I'm not going to click on a Failbart link, but from what I recall, he thinks Cain is a complete nutjob for his ridiculous "Abortion is a private matter that government shouldn't be involved in, but it shouldn't be legal" position. He just doesn't think the sexual harassment broohaha is a big deal. What a shocker.

I like Howard Stern. I also didn't see anything wrong with what Cain said. I may not like abortion but if she wants to do it that's her choice. The government has no right to interfere.

His original statement was that it should be left up to the individual, not the government. That is a more Libertarian position and one I support.

His exact statements that you want to distort:

"It's not the government's role -- or anybody else's role -- to make that decision," he said. "So what I'm saying is, it ultimately gets down to a choice that that family or that mother has to make. Not me as president. Not some politician. Not a bureaucrat. It gets down to that family. And whatever they decide, they decide."

Dude, I quoted exactly what he said to Stossel and provided a link to the video where he says it. Nothing out of context or distorted. He later tried to backpedal when some of his opponents and the media jumped all over him, but he only served to confuse the issue further. Here it is again:

Admitting confusion as to Cain's actual viewpoint, Stossel asked: "If a woman is raped, she should not be allowed to end the pregnancy?" To which Cain responded: "That's her choice. That is not government's choice. I support life from conception."

Continued Stossel: "So, abortion should be legal?"

Answered Cain: "No, abortion should not be legal. I believe in the sanctity of life."

Please point out the distortion.


That was the later backpedal. I pointed to his original statements. One thing you will learn quick is that what the politician first says is what he really means. What he claims were taken out of context or were misspoken is the real truth.
 
2011-11-06 01:01:59 PM
T.M.S.: I would call HST a conservative.

badattitudes.com
 
2011-11-06 01:27:28 PM
Howard Stern is another rich biatch; he and Cain are kith and kin, sharing a common tax problem.

You might call him a brother from another mother.
 
2011-11-06 01:44:01 PM
"It's not the government's role -- or anybody else's role -- to make that decision," he said. "So what I'm saying is, it ultimately gets down to a choice that that family or that mother has to make. Not me as president. Not some politician. Not a bureaucrat.

What a bunch of horsesh*t.

Another libertarian in favor of the non-existent Honor System which will magically allow safe and legal abortions without the need to protect it through legislation. Majic.
 
2011-11-06 01:51:50 PM
deadcrickets: Tor_Eckman: deadcrickets: AnonAmbientLight: deadcrickets: Tor_Eckman: Stern's politics are all over the place. He hated Bush, watches Fox news, thinks all of the current Republican candidates are morans, and seldom has anything good to say about Obama.

Oh, and I'm not going to click on a Failbart link, but from what I recall, he thinks Cain is a complete nutjob for his ridiculous "Abortion is a private matter that government shouldn't be involved in, but it shouldn't be legal" position. He just doesn't think the sexual harassment broohaha is a big deal. What a shocker.

I like Howard Stern. I also didn't see anything wrong with what Cain said. I may not like abortion but if she wants to do it that's her choice. The government has no right to interfere.

His original statement was that it should be left up to the individual, not the government. That is a more Libertarian position and one I support.

His exact statements that you want to distort:

"It's not the government's role -- or anybody else's role -- to make that decision," he said. "So what I'm saying is, it ultimately gets down to a choice that that family or that mother has to make. Not me as president. Not some politician. Not a bureaucrat. It gets down to that family. And whatever they decide, they decide."

Dude, I quoted exactly what he said to Stossel and provided a link to the video where he says it. Nothing out of context or distorted. He later tried to backpedal when some of his opponents and the media jumped all over him, but he only served to confuse the issue further. Here it is again:

Admitting confusion as to Cain's actual viewpoint, Stossel asked: "If a woman is raped, she should not be allowed to end the pregnancy?" To which Cain responded: "That's her choice. That is not government's choice. I support life from conception."

Continued Stossel: "So, abortion should be legal?"

Answered Cain: "No, abortion should not be legal. I believe in the sanctity of life."

Please point out the distortion.

That was the later backpedal. I pointed to his original statements. One thing you will learn quick is that what the politician first says is what he really means. What he claims were taken out of context or were misspoken is the real truth.


Wow, he didn't really mean that. He just said it to appease people.

/hell of a defense.
 
2011-11-06 01:53:57 PM
Should I click another Brieitbart link gone green??

Hmmmm nah...

I hope you get stuck for 8 hours on a JetBlue plane with no available gate Brietbart. And I hope all the passengers are just as unpleasant as you.
 
2011-11-06 02:04:56 PM
I was listening to Stern slam Cain for a good 30 minutes on the way to work the other day, he's no fan. He's also one of the few media types who actually praises the president occasionally.. it's a refreshing break from the usual democratic complaining over how he's just Bush light and isn't liberal enough and the republicans acting like whining oppressed farksticks.
 
2011-11-06 02:43:42 PM
T.M.S.: His love for Kerry always mystified me.

True, over the top adoration. Always seemed a tad excessive. Even if the alternate was so much worse.


Didn't get that impression. I must have missed that. He was a bit over the top about Gary Hart up until the whole Monkey Business fiasco back in 87.
 
2011-11-06 02:58:21 PM
PanicMan: JLEM: antidisestablishmentarianism: LaBlueSkuld: Brought to you by a user named "Batcountry".

I didn't know Hunter Thompson was a conservative hero.

They think that because he was a gun collector, he was a right wing authoritarian douchebag just like them instead of the polare opposite.

WIKI: In 1970, Thompson ran for sheriff of Pitkin County, Colorado, as part of a group of citizens running for local offices on the "Freak Power" ticket. The platform included promoting the decriminalization of drugs (for personal use only, not trafficking, as he disapproved of profiteering), tearing up the streets and turning them into grassy pedestrian malls, banning any building so tall as to obscure the view of the mountains, and renaming Aspen "Fat City" to deter investors. Thompson, having shaved his head, referred to the Republican candidate as "my long-haired opponent", as he wore a crew cut.


That's some pretty radical sh*t for a "conservative" to be all about doing...
 
2011-11-06 03:04:50 PM
JLEM: T.M.S.: His love for Kerry always mystified me.

True, over the top adoration. Always seemed a tad excessive. Even if the alternate was so much worse.

Didn't get that impression. I must have missed that. He was a bit over the top about Gary Hart up until the whole Monkey Business fiasco back in 87.


He was over the moon about Kerry. Had Kerry signs all over his house. During the debates he went on and on about the awesomeness that was Kerry. It wasn't a "lesser of two evils thing". He adored Kerry.
 
2011-11-06 03:12:05 PM
T.M.S.: JLEM: T.M.S.: His love for Kerry always mystified me.

True, over the top adoration. Always seemed a tad excessive. Even if the alternate was so much worse.

Didn't get that impression. I must have missed that. He was a bit over the top about Gary Hart up until the whole Monkey Business fiasco back in 87.

He was over the moon about Kerry. Had Kerry signs all over his house. During the debates he went on and on about the awesomeness that was Kerry. It wasn't a "lesser of two evils thing". He adored Kerry.


I can understand it. Kerry would have been a sane Presidency for once.
 
2011-11-06 03:25:59 PM
T.M.S.: He was over the moon about Kerry. Had Kerry signs all over his house. During the debates he went on and on about the awesomeness that was Kerry. It wasn't a "lesser of two evils thing". He adored Kerry.

Well, I had Kerry signs all over and helped out the campaign too, despite my lukewarm feelings about him (same thing with Gore). If you were stuck with the choice between a pile of flaming toxic sh*t or some under seasoned boiled chicken for lunch, your enthusiasm for the latter might be a bit uncharacteristic, too. Either way, I never saw such enthusiastic action for Kerry from HST, as opposed to enthusiastic hatred for the Bush regime. Do you have any links? I'd really like to read about it.
 
2011-11-06 03:31:09 PM
Read HST's article about Carter, he was keen on him, also friends with McGovern since the early seventies (he was on the "Gonzo roll call") in his later books. I don't think he wanted all government to leae everybody the fark alone, he wanted it to leave him alone.
 
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