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2011-11-05 04:01:05 PM  
Fun fact, Ray Liotta went to high school with Robert Wuhl who was in the original Batman.
 
2011-11-05 04:39:19 PM  
All I ever wanted to be was THE GODDAMN BATMAN
 
2011-11-05 04:41:49 PM  
Sometimes everything works out for the best.
 
2011-11-05 04:44:17 PM  
Joker, you're a funny guy.
 
2011-11-05 04:49:50 PM  
So naturally you go with Keaton as your backup...
 
2011-11-05 05:01:11 PM  
Tim Burton wanted to meet me for Batman. And at that time, I said, 'What are you kidding me? I'm an actor.'

*looks at filmography on IMDB*

....yyyeah.
 
mhd
2011-11-05 05:01:44 PM  
Don't see it, myself. But then again, we're talking about Burton, a guy who clearly peeks into a different dimension...

/in before someone complains about Dances With Wolves
 
2011-11-05 05:04:10 PM  
Liotta as Batman?

Would pay to see that.
 
2011-11-05 05:04:53 PM  
If you've seen Something Wild, Liotta was the best thing in the film and his performance is very similar to the characterization that Burton/Keaton brought to the 1989 film.
 
2011-11-05 05:05:45 PM  
Liotta was in Goodfellas? That's the one with the long restaurant entry shot, right?

Great flick.
 
2011-11-05 05:07:51 PM  
Hmmm... Raises the question of whether or not Keaton or Liotta had the better career overall. They each had their peaks at different times.
 
2011-11-05 05:08:37 PM  
martinbaena.files.wordpress.com

Tommy is not amused, Subby
 
2011-11-05 05:08:39 PM  

Mugato: *looks at filmography on IMDB*


He was the shiat in Narc.
 
2011-11-05 05:09:31 PM  
This town needs an enema.
 
2011-11-05 05:09:56 PM  

Mrbogey: Hmmm... Raises the question of whether or not Keaton or Liotta had the better career overall. They each had their peaks at different times.


They both still do great when they get roles.Keaton had me rolling on the ground laughing in "The Other Guys"
 
2011-11-05 05:10:13 PM  
i.imgur.com

also

i246.photobucket.com
 
2011-11-05 05:10:35 PM  
Ray Liotta = Batman
Robert DeNiro = The Joker
Joe Pesci = The Penguin

Harvey Keitel = Harvey Dent
Vickie Vale = Sharon Stone
Paul Sorvino = Alfred
 
2011-11-05 05:10:42 PM  
Kaaaaaaaaaaaaaren! Where's da munny, Kaaaaaaaaaren? Kaaaaaaaaaaaaren? Where's da munny! KAAAAAAAAAAAAREN DAT WUZ ALL DA MONEY WE HAAAAAAAAAAAAAD, KAAAAAAAAAAAAAREN? Kaaaaren! Kaaaaaaaaaaaren?
 
2011-11-05 05:10:48 PM  

just passing through: Liotta was in Goodfellas? That's the one with the long restaurant entry shot, right?

Great flick.


Yeah, steady cam shot. Must have taken forever to light for that.
 
2011-11-05 05:12:52 PM  
Anyone think Keaton's due for a resurgence a la Bill Murray? Y'know, cameo in a Jim Jarmusch movie, star in a festival flick directed by the less-talented offspring of a talented director?

/Notice I did that without using the word "hipster"
 
2011-11-05 05:14:36 PM  

just passing through: Liotta was in Goodfellas? That's the one with the long restaurant entry shot, right?



no, you're thinking of that one Scorsese movie where he uses lots of Rolling Stones songs.

You know. that one movie of his, with the Stones on the soundtrack. I forget which one that is.
 
2011-11-05 05:16:44 PM  

rickythepenguin: just passing through: Liotta was in Goodfellas? That's the one with the long restaurant entry shot, right?


no, you're thinking of that one Scorsese movie where he uses lots of Rolling Stones songs.

You know. that one movie of his, with the Stones on the soundtrack. I forget which one that is.


Last Temptation of Christ
 
2011-11-05 05:17:14 PM  

Mugato: Tim Burton wanted to meet me for Batman. And at that time, I said, 'What are you kidding me? I'm an actor.'

*looks at filmography on IMDB*

....yyyeah.


My take..
1) Batman was slapstick in everyone's minds still
2) Playing a superhero is a rut, like what happened Christopher Reeve and George Reeves

Like the quote says, you can play an iconic superhero now and use it as a springboard, but that wasn't the case years ago, when you became the superhero and little else.
 
2011-11-05 05:18:21 PM  

Drexl's Eye: rickythepenguin: just passing through: Liotta was in Goodfellas? That's the one with the long restaurant entry shot, right?


no, you're thinking of that one Scorsese movie where he uses lots of Rolling Stones songs.

You know. that one movie of his, with the Stones on the soundtrack. I forget which one that is.

Last Temptation of Christ



I think he meant Age of Innocence. Or was it Kundun?

That one with DeNiro in it. Or was it DiCaprio?
 
2011-11-05 05:20:32 PM  

GungFu: Drexl's Eye: rickythepenguin: just passing through: Liotta was in Goodfellas? That's the one with the long restaurant entry shot, right?


no, you're thinking of that one Scorsese movie where he uses lots of Rolling Stones songs.

You know. that one movie of his, with the Stones on the soundtrack. I forget which one that is.

Last Temptation of Christ


I think he meant Age of Innocence. Or was it Kundun?

That one with DeNiro in it. Or was it DiCaprio?


Ooh, I can't remember, but I know his mom had a bit part.
 
2011-11-05 05:21:19 PM  

bhcompy: My take..
1) Batman was slapstick in everyone's minds still
2) Playing a superhero is a rut, like what happened Christopher Reeve and George Reeves


Yeah and Scorsese was big and Burton wasn't. I get why he made the decision. And Keaton only ended up with two movies, it's not like Hugh Jackman who will be doing Wolverine until he's dead.
 
2011-11-05 05:25:23 PM  
I think they misspelled Johnny Depp.
 
2011-11-05 05:28:04 PM  

Mugato: bhcompy: My take..
1) Batman was slapstick in everyone's minds still
2) Playing a superhero is a rut, like what happened Christopher Reeve and George Reeves

Yeah and Scorsese was big and Burton wasn't. I get why he made the decision. And Keaton only ended up with two movies, it's not like Hugh Jackman who will be doing Wolverine until he's dead.


Or he just read both scripts and made the obvious choice. One of those movies has aged worse than Andy Rooney...and it ain't Goodfellas.
 
2011-11-05 05:34:37 PM  

Drexl's Eye: Anyone think Keaton's due for a resurgence a la Bill Murray? Y'know, cameo in a Jim Jarmusch movie, star in a festival flick directed by the less-talented offspring of a talented director?

/Notice I did that without using the word "hipster"


Absolutely. Dude's capable of anything thrown at him.

Also...Multiplicity remains impressive. Not great, but impressive.
 
2011-11-05 05:37:34 PM  
I kind of wish Marky Mark took the role as Neo
 
2011-11-05 05:38:30 PM  
buckinghoarse.com
Ray chose wisely.
 
2011-11-05 05:47:41 PM  

beerrun: [buckinghoarse.com image 250x272]
Ray chose wisely.


Like...a wise guy?
 
2011-11-05 05:48:04 PM  

Pathman: Fun fact, Ray Liotta went to high school with Robert Wuhl who was in the original Batman.


..and who kicked all kinds of ass as Newbomb Turk in "The Hollywood Knights" and who co-wrote two of the six "Police Squad!" episodes.

It's too bad he'll mostly be remembered for "Arli$$" instead. Blech!
 
2011-11-05 05:55:57 PM  

Ezy Ryder: It's too bad he'll mostly be remembered for "Arli$$" instead. Blech!


www.diablomag.com
Ahem.
 
2011-11-05 06:00:56 PM  

Drexl's Eye: Anyone think Keaton's due for a resurgence a la Bill Murray? Y'know, cameo in a Jim Jarmusch movie, star in a festival flick directed by the less-talented offspring of a talented director?

/Notice I did that without using the word "hipster"


No.
 
2011-11-05 06:05:09 PM  
Should have gone with Ray Romano
 
2011-11-05 06:09:01 PM  

beerrun: Ezy Ryder: It's too bad he'll mostly be remembered for "Arli$$" instead. Blech!

[www.diablomag.com image 275x200]
Ahem.


that's what i think of when i think of Arliss him.
 
2011-11-05 06:09:40 PM  
One day some of the kids from the neighborhood carried my mother's groceries all the way home. You know why? It was outta respect because of my bat belt. People dig the bat belt.
 
2011-11-05 06:10:17 PM  

GungFu: Ray Liotta = Batman
Robert DeNiro = The Joker
Joe Pesci = The Penguin

Harvey Keitel = Harvey Dent
Vickie Vale = Sharon Stone
Paul Sorvino = Alfred


Blessedly, Batman, A Martin Scorsese Film didn't cross anyone's mind until now.
 
2011-11-05 06:11:40 PM  

GimpyNip: Or he just read both scripts and made the obvious choice. One of those movies has aged worse than Andy Rooney...and it ain't Goodfellas.


Sure, Goodfellas is the better movie, obviously. Batman might have paid better though. I just know what I'd recommend if I was his agent and was taking a percentage.

As for Batman aging, I remember seeing it in the theater as a kid and it's not about aging. It always looked cheesy.
 
ecl
2011-11-05 06:14:23 PM  
In the name of the king Dungeon Seige was a terrible movie. All time bad. With Ray Liotta.


And he gets a sequel...

In the Name of the King: Two Worlds , is an upcoming fantasy-action film sequel to In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale. This film will star Dolph Lundgren, Natassia Malthe and Lochlyn Munro.

Uwe Boll has confirmed that the film will have a time travel story where Dolph Lundgren will play a former military officer who is attacked by ninjas and sent through a time vortex where he gets stuck in medieval times. Boll has also gone on to confirm that a dragon will be included in the film.


Plot is too bad for even Mr. Im not Batman apparently.
 
2011-11-05 06:20:23 PM  

ecl: In the name of the king Dungeon Seige was a terrible movie. All time bad. With Ray Liotta.


And he gets a sequel...

In the Name of the King: Two Worlds , is an upcoming fantasy-action film sequel to In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale. This film will star Dolph Lundgren, Natassia Malthe and Lochlyn Munro.

Uwe Boll has confirmed that the film will have a time travel story where Dolph Lundgren will play a former military officer who is attacked by ninjas and sent through a time vortex where he gets stuck in medieval times. Boll has also gone on to confirm that a dragon will be included in the film.

Plot is too bad for even Mr. Im not Batman apparently.


Good actors do Boll movies because he pays them fairly well for a very tight production schedule.
 
2011-11-05 06:20:59 PM  
Now the guy's got Robin as a partner. Any problems, he goes to Robin. Trouble with Gotham? He can go to Robin. Trouble with the Joker, Killer Croc... Batman, he can call Robin. But now the guy's gotta come up with Robin's money every week, no matter what. Arkham opened it's doors? Fark you, pay me. Oh, you got frozen by Mr. Freeze? Fark you, pay me. Place got hit by Clayface, huh? Fark you, pay me.
 
2011-11-05 06:21:03 PM  

beerrun: Ray chose wisely.


THIS

Batman has aged horribly. It seemed groundbreaking at the time (and I think visually it did), but it looks ridiculous now. Keaton still seems good as Batman.
 
2011-11-05 06:31:23 PM  

farkeruk: beerrun: Ray chose wisely.

THIS

Batman has aged horribly. It seemed groundbreaking at the time (and I think visually it did), but it looks ridiculous now. Keaton still seems good as Batman.


multimedia.detnews.com

www.comicscavern.com
 
2011-11-05 06:40:57 PM  
I have to say, I did not care for Goodfellas. It insists upon itself...
 
2011-11-05 06:43:59 PM  

Mugato: As for Batman aging, I remember seeing it in the theater as a kid and it's not about aging. It always looked cheesy.


I think it didn't help that it suffers from the same thing a ton of older movies converted to HD do...you can see the makeup, the lighting is too bright, so things that were previously hidden are fully visable..Don't get me wrong, it's still cheesy but the HD mastering does it no favors.

As for the agent, well, that's an interesting quandry. Goodfellas was thought to be a strong Oscar bid, and Ray could have won best actor in the role. Sure, Batman would have an immediate return but the solid career move was Goodfellas. That's a nice problem for an agent to have. But, then Liotta had to go and do Unlawful Entry...
 
2011-11-05 06:51:27 PM  

GimpyNip: I think it didn't help that it suffers from the same thing a ton of older movies converted to HD do...you can see the makeup, the lighting is too bright, so things that were previously hidden are fully visable..Don't get me wrong, it's still cheesy but the HD mastering does it no favors.


I haven't even seen it in HD but the matte paintings for instance -even though Burton's German expressionist Gotham is far cooler than Nolan's "Chicago"- were obvious, back when there was a lot of awesome matte painting work being done in other films. I can't imagine how bad it must look in HD. But anyway, it was a step up from the Adam West tv show with the Bat-shark repellent. Rome wasn't built in a day.
 
2011-11-05 06:57:07 PM  
Peter Weller would have been wonderful as Batman.

Pity he's too old now.
 
2011-11-05 07:01:56 PM  

beerrun: [buckinghoarse.com image 250x272]
Ray chose wisely.


No kidding. Goodfellas is as good as the day it came out, and Burton's Batman is a painfully dated piece of sh*t I still wish I could wipe from my memory. In fairness, I hated Burton's Batman from the beginning because it wasn't The Dark Knight Returns.

...and whoever brought Prince in for the Batman soundtrack shout be shot.
 
2011-11-05 07:05:11 PM  
Hoping Ray Liotta's next starring role is...in me!

/YUM!
//Permanent #1 on my laminated list!
///Would let him hit it with the fist of whatever angry being he choses.
///Ray...Call me! tee hee
 
2011-11-05 07:28:39 PM  

Mugato: Sure, Goodfellas is the better movie, obviously. Batman might have paid better though.


Probably not. The legend goes that Burton couldn't afford Nicholson, so Nicholson did it for scale and a percentage of the profits (that's how he got paid millions for doing Joker), because Nicholson saw a marketing blitz in the Batman franchise. Meanwhile, Scorcese had a big budget, and a relatively unknown Liotta (but still sriding his Field of Dreams clout) was about to burst on the scene with a Scorcese flick starring alongside DeNiro, Pesci, etc. There would never have been a moment's hesitation if I were in his place.
 
2011-11-05 07:51:29 PM  

IgG4: So naturally you go with Keaton as your backup...


Keaton was and will always be the best Batman.
 
2011-11-05 07:58:10 PM  
drusyc.files.wordpress.com
His agent issued a denial when people thought the guy in the GTA V trailer might be him.
 
2011-11-05 08:01:51 PM  

beerrun: Ezy Ryder: It's too bad he'll mostly be remembered for "Arli$$" instead. Blech!

[www.diablomag.com image 275x200]
Ahem.


That college lecture thing he did was pretty funny
 
2011-11-05 08:28:59 PM  

Ezy Ryder: Pathman: Fun fact, Ray Liotta went to high school with Robert Wuhl who was in the original Batman.

..and who kicked all kinds of ass as Newbomb Turk in "The Hollywood Knights" and who co-wrote two of the six "Police Squad!" episodes.

It's too bad he'll mostly be remembered for "Arli$$" instead. Blech!


It does have a certain wang to it.
 
2011-11-05 08:30:32 PM  
Gregory Peck woulda made a great Bats. Also he seems to be Alex Ross' Batman model for Kingdom Come.
 
2011-11-05 08:30:44 PM  

Pathman: Fun fact, Ray Liotta went to high school with Robert Wuhl who was in the original Batman.


You mean Robert Wuhl was in the 1966 Batman movie? He was pretty young, then, wasn't he?

images.wikia.com
 
2011-11-05 08:34:04 PM  

Nihilist's Guide to Reticent Entropy: Pathman: Fun fact, Ray Liotta went to high school with Robert Wuhl who was in the original Batman.

You mean Robert Wuhl was in the 1966 Batman movie? He was pretty young, then, wasn't he?

[images.wikia.com image 333x416]


yeah yeah, grandpa

;-p

you're right. the original batman movie
 
2011-11-05 08:47:15 PM  

GungFu: Joe Pesci = The Penguin


After playing Arkham City, I'm convinced The Penguin must have a Cockney accent so...Bob Hoskins.
 
2011-11-05 08:54:55 PM  

BeatrixK: Hoping Ray Liotta's next starring role is...in me!

/YUM!
//Permanent #1 on my laminated list!
///Would let him hit it with the fist of whatever angry being he choses.
///Ray...Call me! tee hee


2.bp.blogspot.com
/my hotlinks are almost on-topic today
 
2011-11-05 09:32:55 PM  

Drexl's Eye: GungFu: Drexl's Eye: rickythepenguin: just passing through: Liotta was in Goodfellas? That's the one with the long restaurant entry shot, right?


no, you're thinking of that one Scorsese movie where he uses lots of Rolling Stones songs.

You know. that one movie of his, with the Stones on the soundtrack. I forget which one that is.

Last Temptation of Christ


I think he meant Age of Innocence. Or was it Kundun?

That one with DeNiro in it. Or was it DiCaprio?

Ooh, I can't remember, but I know his mom had a bit part.


Is it the one where all the female characters were all either Madonnas or whores?
 
2011-11-05 09:33:33 PM  

BeatrixK: Hoping Ray Liotta's next starring role is...in me!
/YUM!
//Permanent #1 on my laminated list!
///Would let him hit it with the fist of whatever angry being he choses.
///Ray...Call me! tee hee


Ray Liotta looks like my dad, who died a long long time ago, so I've always had a thing for him. I guess I can't fark him though. Wait, do I have daddy issues because of that? Does that mean I can?
 
2011-11-05 09:46:26 PM  

GungFu: Ray Liotta = Batman
Robert DeNiro = The Joker
Joe Pesci = The Penguin

Harvey Keitel = Harvey Dent
Vickie Vale = Sharon Stone
Paul Sorvino = Alfred


No, Pesci as the Joker.
What, you think I'm funny? Funny like a clown?!
 
2011-11-05 09:47:14 PM  

cryinoutloud: BeatrixK: Hoping Ray Liotta's next starring role is...in me!
/YUM!
//Permanent #1 on my laminated list!
///Would let him hit it with the fist of whatever angry being he choses.
///Ray...Call me! tee hee

Ray Liotta looks like my dad, who died a long long time ago, so I've always had a thing for him. I guess I can't fark him though. Wait, do I have daddy issues because of that? Does that mean I can?


Have you changed you mind about posting a picture of your boobies? Lindsey is doing it.
 
2011-11-05 09:48:11 PM  

cryinoutloud: BeatrixK: Hoping Ray Liotta's next starring role is...in me!
/YUM!
//Permanent #1 on my laminated list!
///Would let him hit it with the fist of whatever angry being he choses.
///Ray...Call me! tee hee

Ray Liotta looks like my dad, who died a long long time ago, so I've always had a thing for him. I guess I can't fark him though. Wait, do I have daddy issues because of that? Does that mean I can?


It means you have accomplished steps 1 and 2 of being one of Batman's villains.
 
2011-11-05 10:37:15 PM  

rickythepenguin: Kaaaaaaaaaaaaaren! Where's da munny, Kaaaaaaaaaren? Kaaaaaaaaaaaaren? Where's da munny! KAAAAAAAAAAAAREN DAT WUZ ALL DA MONEY WE HAAAAAAAAAAAAAD, KAAAAAAAAAAAAAREN? Kaaaaren! Kaaaaaaaaaaaren?


Officially registered 'lol'
 
2011-11-05 10:41:49 PM  

Harry_Seldon: Have you changed you mind about posting a picture of your boobies? Lindsey is doing it.


Be careful what you ask for. My boobies are as big as Lilo's, but twice as old.
 
2011-11-05 10:52:08 PM  

cryinoutloud: Harry_Seldon: Have you changed you mind about posting a picture of your boobies? Lindsey is doing it.

Be careful what you ask for. My boobies are as big as Lilo's, but twice as old.


They probably look younger than Lilo does though.
 
2011-11-05 10:58:52 PM  

Onkel Buck: beerrun: Ezy Ryder: It's too bad he'll mostly be remembered for "Arli$$" instead. Blech!

[www.diablomag.com image 275x200]
Ahem.

That college lecture thing he did was pretty funny


Yeah, I thought so too. He certainly made history sound more interesting than my high school history teacher ever did.

chewielouie:
It does have a certain wang to it.

It's good though.

/Let me tell you buttholes something! This shiat's way out of line!
//Lawrence, Lawrence of Arabia, he was an English guy, he came to fight the Turkish
///Vooooolaaaaareeeee...
 
2011-11-06 12:33:27 AM  

DjangoStonereaver: Peter Weller would have been wonderful as Batman.

Pity he's too old now.


Weller wouldn't be too old for a "Dark Knight Returns" movie, though.

And I think I know someone who would make a PERFECT Robin for that project:

farm2.static.flickr.com
 
2011-11-06 12:40:11 AM  

FishyFred: All I ever wanted to be was THE GODDAMN BATMAN


Ah, sorry about that.
 
2011-11-06 01:15:09 AM  

fusillade762: DjangoStonereaver: Peter Weller would have been wonderful as Batman.

Pity he's too old now.

Weller wouldn't be too old for a "Dark Knight Returns" movie, though.

And I think I know someone who would make a PERFECT Robin for that project:

[farm2.static.flickr.com image 357x500]


Who is that?
 
2011-11-06 01:57:16 AM  

FerneJohn: fusillade762: DjangoStonereaver: Peter Weller would have been wonderful as Batman.

Pity he's too old now.

Weller wouldn't be too old for a "Dark Knight Returns" movie, though.

And I think I know someone who would make a PERFECT Robin for that project:

[farm2.static.flickr.com image 357x500]

Who is that?


Molly Quinn. She plays Malcolm Reynolds' daughter on Castle.

28.media.tumblr.com
 
2011-11-06 02:14:19 AM  
"Owen, a word with you, if I might?"

"Is this about me sleeping with your sister again, Sy?"

"Yes, but now I'm begging you to reconsider. She's going through a tough dry spell, she could really use it."

"No can do, bro. You know my rule."

"Yeah, you won't sleep with girls who look like Ray Liotta."

"Bingo, and your sister is Totes Liotes."
 
2011-11-06 02:19:47 AM  
I would comment how really farked up Liotta would've been as Batman, but I'm still trying to get my mind around him being Bruce Wayne, and the fark that,,, well,,, it would be Ray Liotta playing Batman? No way. I farking love Ray liotta in every thing he's done but Batman? Ray in his age would've been the perfect Scare Crow or 2 face. 2 face becasuse he has a face large enough to accommodate 2 face's, and Scarecrow because he's farking Ray Liotta. But no,,, he could never play Batman or Joker for that matter. Hell of a 2 face though.
 
2011-11-06 03:35:40 AM  
People mock Burton Batman, but I loved it.

Sure, it was a little cartoonish, but coming after the TV show, it was downright realistic!
The sets and everything else pulled off what so few movies have done well, a dystopia. All of the sets had an interior/cramped feel, be it the streets, even the rooftops felt like they were in a cave. The kind of crowding where villians will thrive and a hero will be needed. Still feels, to this day, somewhat like The Crow and Dark City.

That is the one thing I have against the "modern" batman. It's all action, and a backdrop with little to no work put into it.Sure, the acting and writing is good, characters are dark, etc. But the background? Modern City USA. Blech and boring. I don't buy the hero/villian bit, because we have no hero's and no real villians. Plenty of bad people, and good people, but no real masterminds of epic proportions on either side of the fence. The realism, in these movies, it was spoils the suspension of disbelief, through association with modern times.
 
2011-11-06 03:36:38 AM  

omeganuepsilon: it was spoils


is what spoils

FTFM
 
2011-11-06 04:51:56 AM  

omeganuepsilon: People mock Burton Batman, but I loved it.

Sure, it was a little cartoonish, but coming after the TV show, it was downright realistic!
The sets and everything else pulled off what so few movies have done well, a dystopia. All of the sets had an interior/cramped feel, be it the streets, even the rooftops felt like they were in a cave. The kind of crowding where villians will thrive and a hero will be needed. Still feels, to this day, somewhat like The Crow and Dark City.

That is the one thing I have against the "modern" batman. It's all action, and a backdrop with little to no work put into it.Sure, the acting and writing is good, characters are dark, etc. But the background? Modern City USA. Blech and boring. I don't buy the hero/villian bit, because we have no hero's and no real villians. Plenty of bad people, and good people, but no real masterminds of epic proportions on either side of the fence. The realism, in these movies, it was spoils the suspension of disbelief, through association with modern times.


I must disagree. I loved Batman "89" so let''s get that out of the way. IMO Nicholsons joker was the best. Many if not most would disagree. However, Nolans 2 movies more then made up for the lack of the 90's franchise. Batman Begins IMO was as good as Batman "89" and "the Dark Knight" blew away the 90's sequals. IMO the only redeeming qualities in the Batman movies of the 90's was Jack as the Jocker (actually 89) and Jim Carry as the Riddler. Those 2 were absolutely tops in my book. Tommy Lee Jones? Horrible. Danny Divito? Deplorable. Michelle Pfeiffer well OK. Fact is(or my opinion) is Nolans movies were better. Much better.
 
2011-11-06 05:08:45 AM  

FishyFred: All I ever wanted to be was THE GODDAMN BATMAN


yourdeadparents.jpg

/you sobbing like a little girl.jpg
 
2011-11-06 07:39:38 AM  

ununcle: IMO the only redeeming qualities in the Batman movies of the 90's was Jack as the Jocker (actually 89) and Jim Carry as the Riddler. Those 2 were absolutely tops in my book. Tommy Lee Jones? Horrible. Danny Divito? Deplorable. Michelle Pfeiffer well OK. Fact is(or my opinion) is Nolans movies were better. Much better.


I liked Batman Returns. It was more atmospheric, and I liked the dialog and chemistry between Batman and Catwoman. And it had Walken. Carrey was okay as the Riddler but his part was so badly written. Like for instance, he didn't have any riddles. They were just nursery rhymes the big payoff of which was spelling out his name. By then it didn't matter because the Schumacker ones were shiat.
 
2011-11-06 08:21:30 AM  

ununcle: IMO Nicholsons joker was the best. Many if not most would disagree.


I liked Nicholson's Joker, but it seemed to me that he was playing himself . With the Nolan reboot, however, I was stunned by Ledger's portrayal of the same character.

/ real acting
// not expecting much from an actor that I considered lightweight (eg. "The Patriot") probably helped.
/// sorry for the threaddrift
 
2011-11-06 02:30:42 PM  

kronicfeld: Mugato: *looks at filmography on IMDB*

He was the shiat in Narc.


yup, that is on my blu-ray where the fark is it list
 
2011-11-06 03:29:52 PM  

fusillade762: Molly Quinn. She plays Malcolm Reynolds' daughter on Castle.


LOL!

Some of these actors have real names you know.
 
2011-11-06 04:18:57 PM  

Surool: fusillade762: Molly Quinn. She plays Malcolm Reynolds' daughter on Castle.

LOL!

Some of these actors have real names you know.


The hell you say!
 
2011-11-06 04:51:45 PM  

Surool: fusillade762: Molly Quinn. She plays Malcolm Reynolds' daughter on Castle.

LOL!

Some of these actors have real names you know.


OK, fine. She plays Frank Castle's daughter.
 
2011-11-07 07:29:51 AM  

Pathman: Fun fact, Ray Liotta went to high school with Robert Wuhl who was in the original Batman.


Fun fact: I went to high school with both.

/Union NJ represent.
//CSB
 
2011-11-07 12:36:56 PM  

dodecahedron: Pathman: Fun fact, Ray Liotta went to high school with Robert Wuhl who was in the original Batman.

Fun fact: I went to high school with both.

/Union NJ represent.
//CSB


sweet!
 
2011-11-07 03:11:24 PM  
My impression at the time was that Burton was interested in him for "Batman," not for Batman (the role). There was talk then that he would make a perfect Joker, and I still think that would have been solid casting.
 
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