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(ABC) Interesting Researchers find certain wine improves metabolism in obese men. Doctors say it's really a case of syrah, syrah   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 32
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2011-11-05 04:38:07 PM
I'll drink with that.
 
2011-11-05 04:57:30 PM
resveratrol? more like reversital
 
2011-11-05 05:54:41 PM
Cynthia Sass? That's a real name?

/I wish she'd sass me.
 
2011-11-05 05:59:48 PM
Anything to avoid exercise, eh fatties?
 
2011-11-05 06:15:08 PM
Red wine, grapes, and chocolate? Hey, finally a diet I can stick with!
 
2011-11-05 06:17:43 PM
Ed Finnerty: Anything to avoid exercise, eh fatties?

If I can't eat my way thin then fark you for being a fatist.
 
2011-11-05 06:31:32 PM
Whatever: imbibe, imbibe.
 
2011-11-05 06:44:32 PM
Not sure if syrahs.
 
2011-11-05 06:56:03 PM
There is only about 1 mg of resveratrol per glass of wine, so you are going to need 150 glasses per day. It is a win-win situation.
 
2011-11-05 06:58:41 PM
TFA doesn't say that they drank any wine, it said they got 150mg a day of Reservatrol, which could have come from wine or a supplement, with no evidence of the bioavailability of either source.

This is an ideal FARK article- no news at all. Here's the same line of reasoning- Your body needs calcium, so Researchers state that lots of ice cream prevents osteoporosis in women.
 
2011-11-05 07:04:00 PM
daily dosing with a strong laxative would probably also improve their metabolism.
 
2011-11-05 07:39:10 PM
Researchers find certain wine improves metabolism in obese men. Doctors say it's really a case of syrah, syrah

Ah, okay then. This whole time I've been consuming wine that was admittedly pretty uncertain.
 
2011-11-05 07:43:34 PM
HairBolus: daily dosing with a strong laxative would probably also improve their metabolism.

That's a shiatty way to lose weight
 
2011-11-05 07:46:38 PM
MrEricSir: Red wine, grapes, and chocolate? Hey, finally a diet I can stick with!

Replace grapes with hot pockets and that's pretty much my diet already.

/Boones farm counts as wine right?
 
2011-11-05 07:49:27 PM
BigLuca: Replace grapes with hot pockets and that's pretty much my diet already.

Judging by your Fark handle, I'll assume the diet isn't effective for weight loss.
 
2011-11-05 07:56:53 PM
KarmicDisaster: There is only about 1 mg of resveratrol per glass of wine, so you are going to need 150 glasses per day. It is a win-win situation.

And after about a week you would have spent about the same amount of money you would have by taking the easier way out; liposuction.

I do like the idea though. I'm having a glass of Sweet Red right now. I can just feel the fat melting away as I type.

/not that I'm fat
//blah blah gym 28 minutes blah blah
 
2011-11-05 08:00:46 PM
MrEricSir: BigLuca: Replace grapes with hot pockets and that's pretty much my diet already.

Judging by your Fark handle, I'll assume the diet isn't effective for weight loss.


Naw, my fark handle is in regards to my schlong.
 
2011-11-05 08:35:10 PM
I heard on NPR (I think) someone describing the problem with people who have lost weight - The body never really recovers from the 'shock' of losing weight. Their metabolism doesn't return to a healthy state, so in order to keep maintain the same weight, they must eat 400 or so calories less than a person of the same current weight who never was obese to begin with. Perhaps this is a way to help reduce the confusion the body has after significant weight loss, and will allow formerly fat people to keep trim at a higher rate.
 
2011-11-05 08:37:49 PM
HairBolus: daily dosing with a strong laxative would probably also improve their metabolism.


Who needs laxatives when there's KFC?
 
2011-11-05 08:47:18 PM
KarmicDisaster: There is only about 1 mg of resveratrol per glass of wine, so you are going to need 150 glasses per day. It is a win-win situation.

I was wondering if anybody else looked that up, for it's not mentioned in the article. Granted, that's slightly less than 1 Melchizedek of wine a day.
 
2011-11-05 08:51:56 PM
Overweight. This is what happens when you take a cab everywhere. You can bet'ch'erazz that if you carry 'em all bek, you might get skinny again.
 
2011-11-05 09:19:00 PM
somemoron: I heard on NPR (I think) someone describing the problem with people who have lost weight - The body never really recovers from the 'shock' of losing weight. Their metabolism doesn't return to a healthy state, so in order to keep maintain the same weight, they must eat 400 or so calories less than a person of the same current weight who never was obese to begin with. Perhaps this is a way to help reduce the confusion the body has after significant weight loss, and will allow formerly fat people to keep trim at a higher rate.

One of the glories of losing weight via a low carb diet is that the "shock" or famine mechanism you describe never kicks in because you couple low carbs with high protein. The lack of carbs turns your body's natural fat-burning mechanism to high, but the protein levels convince your body not to kick on any of its starvation defense mechanisms.

I personally lost 100lbs in three months. in the 7 years since I stopped eating that way I shot up about 30 lbs over two years then it all came back off and I'm not at the same weight I was when I ended the diet, but eating whatever the hell I want
 
2011-11-05 09:23:33 PM
Magorn: somemoron: I heard on NPR (I think) someone describing the problem with people who have lost weight - The body never really recovers from the 'shock' of losing weight. Their metabolism doesn't return to a healthy state, so in order to keep maintain the same weight, they must eat 400 or so calories less than a person of the same current weight who never was obese to begin with. Perhaps this is a way to help reduce the confusion the body has after significant weight loss, and will allow formerly fat people to keep trim at a higher rate.

One of the glories of losing weight via a low carb diet is that the "shock" or famine mechanism you describe never kicks in because you couple low carbs with high protein. The lack of carbs turns your body's natural fat-burning mechanism to high, but the protein levels convince your body not to kick on any of its starvation defense mechanisms.

I personally lost 100lbs in three months. in the 7 years since I stopped eating that way I shot up about 30 lbs over two years then it all came back off and I'm not at the same weight I was when I ended the diet, but eating whatever the hell I want


You lost 100 pounds in three months? WTF... How? Did you feel like shiat during that time? Seems like that is a VERY hard shock to the body...

\I need to lose 80, minimum.
 
2011-11-05 09:48:58 PM
Link (new window)
 
2011-11-05 10:14:29 PM
Clever headline, subby......I see no one has sent an encouraging word......

/Will I be pretty? Will I be rich? Here's what she said to me..........
 
2011-11-05 10:58:05 PM
I should be a freaking Ethiopian.....albino.
 
2011-11-05 11:03:37 PM
somemoron: Magorn: somemoron: I heard on NPR (I think) someone describing the problem with people who have lost weight - The body never really recovers from the 'shock' of losing weight. Their metabolism doesn't return to a healthy state, so in order to keep maintain the same weight, they must eat 400 or so calories less than a person of the same current weight who never was obese to begin with. Perhaps this is a way to help reduce the confusion the body has after significant weight loss, and will allow formerly fat people to keep trim at a higher rate.

One of the glories of losing weight via a low carb diet is that the "shock" or famine mechanism you describe never kicks in because you couple low carbs with high protein. The lack of carbs turns your body's natural fat-burning mechanism to high, but the protein levels convince your body not to kick on any of its starvation defense mechanisms.

I personally lost 100lbs in three months. in the 7 years since I stopped eating that way I shot up about 30 lbs over two years then it all came back off and I'm not at the same weight I was when I ended the diet, but eating whatever the hell I want

You lost 100 pounds in three months? WTF... How? Did you feel like shiat during that time? Seems like that is a VERY hard shock to the body...

\I need to lose 80, minimum.


Honestly it was the easiest thing I ever did. Every day I got on the scale and was three pounds lighter than the day before. I got to eat all sorts of things I'd all but given up (peanut butter, cheese, hamburgers, bacon etc). More importantly and unlike every other diet I tried, I NEVER felt hungry, (hunger is caused by swings in blood sugar). The worst part of it for me was week and a half of feeling run down, after which my energy rebounded (body switched from burning sugar to burning fat for energy). That and about a week of debilitating stomach cramps, which, it turned out, was an allergic-type reaction to nutrasweet (aspartame) and not anything related to the diet. In fact because of some of the metabolic side-effects (BP dropped from 180/120 to 135/85 w/o meds, My "wind" roughly doubled over two weeks-based on what I was able to do on a treadmill) I felt fantastic as it happened.


I'd recommend reading Protein Power by the Drs Eades as it's one of the best explanations of how the diet works from a metabolic stand point
 
2011-11-06 12:02:28 AM
Magorn ain't playing. An active, low-carb lifestyle keeps weight off while keeping you full. I know because I'm on Atkins right now, though I'm lazier than I ought to be if I really want to speed it up. You're almost never particularly hungry on low carbs, but you might miss many foods once you realize how ubiquitous sugar and grains are.
 
2011-11-06 12:05:24 AM
Oh, and as far as this resveratol, I can see it being a useful supplement, but not the cornerstone of a weight-loss plan.
 
2011-11-06 12:18:00 AM
Magorn: Honestly it was the easiest thing I ever did. Every day I got on the scale and was three pounds lighter than the day before. I got to eat all sorts of things I'd all but given up (peanut butter, cheese, hamburgers, bacon etc). More importantly and unlike every other diet I tried, I NEVER felt hungry, (hunger is caused by swings in blood sugar). The worst part of it for me was week and a half of feeling run down, after which my energy rebounded (body switched from burning sugar to burning fat for energy). That and about a week of debilitating stomach cramps, which, it turned out, was an allergic-type reaction to nutrasweet (aspartame) and not anything related to the diet. In fact because of some of the metabolic side-effects (BP dropped from 180/120 to 135/85 w/o meds, My "wind" roughly doubled over two weeks-based on what I was able to do on a treadmill) I felt fantastic as it happened.


I'd recommend reading Protein Power by the Drs Eades as it's one of the best explanations of how the diet works from a metabolic stand point


3 pounds a day? That's burning through like 10,500 calories a day. What the hell were you doing to use up that much energy?
 
2011-11-06 01:08:12 AM
 
2011-11-06 09:01:32 AM
Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: Magorn: Honestly it was the easiest thing I ever did. Every day I got on the scale and was three pounds lighter than the day before. I got to eat all sorts of things I'd all but given up (peanut butter, cheese, hamburgers, bacon etc). More importantly and unlike every other diet I tried, I NEVER felt hungry, (hunger is caused by swings in blood sugar). The worst part of it for me was week and a half of feeling run down, after which my energy rebounded (body switched from burning sugar to burning fat for energy). That and about a week of debilitating stomach cramps, which, it turned out, was an allergic-type reaction to nutrasweet (aspartame) and not anything related to the diet. In fact because of some of the metabolic side-effects (BP dropped from 180/120 to 135/85 w/o meds, My "wind" roughly doubled over two weeks-based on what I was able to do on a treadmill) I felt fantastic as it happened.


I'd recommend reading Protein Power by the Drs Eades as it's one of the best explanations of how the diet works from a metabolic stand point

3 pounds a day? That's burning through like 10,500 calories a day. What the hell were you doing to use up that much energy?


here's the freakish part: Less than I was before. Before low carbing, I was at the local gym about 3-4 times week (down from every freaking day a bit before that) to do a minimum of 1/2 hour of aerobic exercise (bike, treadmill or rowing machine) and 1/2 hour of lifting trying to stop getting bigger. When I was at the gym everyday I was about 325, and when I cut it back to every other, I crept up to almost 370 (I was freaking HUGE)

Did the low carb thing just as my job became very busy, and I was only making it to the gym 1-2 times /week and I was absolutely desperate not to get any bigger. Someone I trusted a lot recommended it to me. It scared the hell out of me because as someone who'd eaten a low-fat diet for a long time, it seemed to want me to eat damn nearly every food I considered "bad". I figured i'd give it a week and see what happened. I lost about 20lbs that week and never looked back
 
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