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2011-11-05 11:15:42 AM
I think Daylight Savings Time is perfectly reasonable from May thru August. The rest of the time, not so much.
 
2011-11-05 11:39:31 AM
Daylight Savings Time

/pet peeve
//hate DST
 
2011-11-05 12:00:21 PM
how about 'because it's f*cking stupid'
 
2011-11-05 12:00:39 PM
Seriously I want my hour back tonight----and then lets not do this again.
 
2011-11-05 12:02:02 PM
how about daylight savings time 365

/screw you early birds
 
2011-11-05 12:03:45 PM
Not only does it fark up my drinking schedule, that extra hour of sunlight all summer has faded the hell outta my curtains.
 
2011-11-05 12:04:42 PM
It sucks dick. Once it happens, it may as well be midnight at 7pm here.
 
2011-11-05 12:05:07 PM
I like DST. How else do I get a fool-proof excuse to be late to work twice a year?

/wait...
 
2011-11-05 12:05:16 PM
Daylight saving time should go and employers should be encouraged to adopt more flex time.

The kind of thinking that makes DST seem like a good idea has all kinds of drawbacks, not the least of which are the huge peak demands on power and traffic infrastructure.

There's just no reason for people to be so stuck on an 8-5 schedule any more.
 
2011-11-05 12:05:22 PM
Because we have this amazing thing called electricity now.
 
2011-11-05 12:05:39 PM
So, uh, why not just change the time to one time? Seriously, we should all just go GMT and be done with it.
 
2011-11-05 12:07:01 PM
Daylight Saving Time is government intervention in the economy- interestingly, it is not fiscal, monetary or trade policy. And as most economic policy, it is the result of corporate special interest. The 2007 change resulted from years of lobbying by industries such as makers of outdoor recreational sporting goods, golf and other outdoor recreation sports centers, even candy manufacturers (an extra hour daylight on Halloween means another hour of demand for candy). It also has other benefits such as reducing the incident of traffic accidents during afternoon/evening drive time (reduces insurance too), reduces crime, creates a shopping stimulus (more people go out to shop in daylight), conserves energy. Screws up sleep.
 
2011-11-05 12:08:25 PM
DST is better than a hot poker in the eye.
 
2011-11-05 12:08:46 PM
I can understand mild annoyance at DST, but some people are a bit high drama about it. That guy flipping out about timezones was funny.
 
2011-11-05 12:09:03 PM
Diana Fyer: Not only does it fark up my drinking schedule, that extra hour of sunlight all summer has faded the hell outta my curtains.

I don't know if your joking or not, but what difference does time mean?

It's not like time can stop you from drinking and the sun still shines for
the same duration.
 
2011-11-05 12:09:41 PM
Try waking up before 8am for a change. We're about to return to standard time. Thank god.

The whole point of DST is to make the mornings darker and the evenings brighter. This punishes the industrious who don't spend their nights drinking and running up debts they can't pay.

We need reverse DST - make sunrise and sunset earlier.
 
2011-11-05 12:10:39 PM
Knight without armor: Daylight Saving Time is government intervention in the economy- interestingly, it is not fiscal, monetary or trade policy. And as most economic policy, it is the result of corporate special interest. The 2007 change resulted from years of lobbying by industries such as makers of outdoor recreational sporting goods, golf and other outdoor recreation sports centers, even candy manufacturers (an extra hour daylight on Halloween means another hour of demand for candy). It also has other benefits such as reducing the incident of traffic accidents during afternoon/evening drive time (reduces insurance too), reduces crime, creates a shopping stimulus (more people go out to shop in daylight), conserves energy. Screws up sleep.

I'm all for DST all year round, however some people seem to forget orbital tilt and the fact that the sunlight hours will change between summer and winter anyway.
 
2011-11-05 12:10:40 PM
Tebow > DST
 
2011-11-05 12:11:40 PM
Because it causes global warming?

i40.tinypic.com

/oblig
 
2011-11-05 12:12:10 PM
10 U.S.C. 311: We need reverse DST - make sunrise and sunset earlier.

Not very good for energy conservation, considering the average business schedule.
 
2011-11-05 12:14:45 PM
JLEM: 10 U.S.C. 311: We need reverse DST - make sunrise and sunset earlier.

Not very good for energy conservation, considering the average business schedule.


THIS

DST should be made permanent, not just a summer/winter switch.
 
2011-11-05 12:14:52 PM
DST year round is the way to go. I live in Nashville, which is just west of the eastern/central time zone barrier. Winter on standard time here sucks... 4:30 pm, and its pitch black.
 
2011-11-05 12:15:27 PM
cmunic8r99: Daylightlihgt Savings Time

/pet peeve
//hate DST


ftfy

/pet preeve
 
2011-11-05 12:15:43 PM
Hmm, I think daylight savings time is now #2 on my WTF list.

1. United States Congress is too stupid to balance a budget
2. daylight savings time

OK, that's my list.
 
2011-11-05 12:15:55 PM
ole prophet: It sucks dick. Once it happens, it may as well be midnight at 7pm here.

Sorry, switching from DST sucks.
 
2011-11-05 12:16:11 PM
10 U.S.C. 311: The whole point of DST is to make the mornings darker and the evenings brighter. This punishes the industrious who don't spend their nights drinking and running up debts they can't pay.

Um, it punishes nobody and rewards nobody. It's an hour. You're an adult (I assume) and can do what you want when you want.

Stop crying.
 
2011-11-05 12:16:46 PM
redly1: how about daylight savings time 365

/screw you early birds


This. X1000
 
2011-11-05 12:17:34 PM
How about every month we just adjust our clocks by 10 minutes. You wouldn't even notice.
 
2011-11-05 12:17:37 PM
mactheknife: DST should be made permanent, not just a summer/winter switch.

Otherwise known as a clock.
 
2011-11-05 12:20:00 PM
JLEM: 10 U.S.C. 311: We need reverse DST - make sunrise and sunset earlier.

Not very good for energy conservation, considering the average business schedule.


Fair point, but production is the answer to our energy problems, not conservation.

I'm still waiting for my power that's "too cheap to meter."

Consider: Whatever happened to Fusion? (new window)

The Princeton lab is one of the handful of research institutions in the U.S. working on the very long term project of developing fusion power. The theoretical potential of fusion power is well understood, but harnessing fusion as a practical energy source is a massive engineering challenge, meaning it is very expensive and long-term. Fusion sounds like a far-off, Star Trek-like power source, but in fact it is fairly simple, and already around us in ways we don't realize. The light from a fluorescent bulb is actually charged plasma, and the particles that light up inside a fluorescent tube reach 10,000 degrees. But there are so few of the charged particles that their heat dissipates quickly. The challenge of fusion power is to scale this phenomenon up to harness the heat to generate electricity.

You would think this would be the kind of initiative that President Obama, having promised to "restore science to its proper place" in his inaugural address, would strongly support. And you'd be wrong. Turns out fusion energy research received much stronger support and higher funding from the "anti-science" Bush Administration.

And so while everyone is wringing their hands that China and other nations are way ahead of the U.S. in producing solar panels and windmills, guess where those nations are really ahead of the U.S. Yup: China, Japan, South Korea, and a European consortium are all building next generation fusion projects, mostly based on U.S. designs that we aren't building ourselves. Instead, we're still playing around with small-scale experiments, and contributing our expertise to these foreign projects.

The total budget for the Princeton lab is considerably less than the Solyndra loan guarantee. A public choice economist will tell you instantly why this happens this way. Fusion power doesn't offer any pork barrel opportunities, and doesn't fit the "green jobs now" idiocy that drove the $35 billion loan guarantee program that gave us Solyndra. There's nothing in it for the politicians. (In fact, Congress under Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid stiffed the European ITER fusion program, which was initiated by Reagan and Gorbachev way back in the 1980s, to which the U.S. pledged to contribute 9 percent of the budget. But since the ITER project will be built in France instead of someone's home district here, Congress refused to approve the appropriation under Pelosi and Reid.)
 
2011-11-05 12:22:46 PM
That's why I do all my drinking in a dank basement, bereft of human contact or natural light.
 
2011-11-05 12:23:26 PM
Knight without armor: Daylight Saving Time is government intervention in the economy- interestingly, it is not fiscal, monetary or trade policy. And as most economic policy, it is the result of corporate special interest. The 2007 change resulted from years of lobbying by industries such as makers of outdoor recreational sporting goods, golf and other outdoor recreation sports centers, even candy manufacturers (an extra hour daylight on Halloween means another hour of demand for candy). It also has other benefits such as reducing the incident of traffic accidents during afternoon/evening drive time (reduces insurance too), reduces crime, creates a shopping stimulus (more people go out to shop in daylight), conserves energy. Screws up sleep.

I blame Obama.
 
2011-11-05 12:23:36 PM
bomb the sun!
 
2011-11-05 12:25:25 PM
I hate DST so much. My work schedule actually moves back an hour, so I have the pleasure of waking up at 3am to drive 75 miles to work 5a-5p for a few months.

/a little bitter
//mostly just tired.
 
2011-11-05 12:26:13 PM
Who cares about DST/ST? What I farking hate is winter. It gets cold and clammy for weeks at a time, and the farking sun doesn't come up 'til 7 and it goes down again at 5. What a farking waste. Let's cancel winter and have it be summer all the time.

/misses the tropics of my youth
 
2011-11-05 12:27:24 PM
I've always loved clock changes, because it drove my mother crazy. So my dad would set some clocks ahead, some clocks behind, some two hours, some one hour, and my mother would end up on the floor next to a half empty bottle of quaaludes. Or vodka, after ludes were restricted.
Then we would go to McDonalds.
 
2011-11-05 12:28:11 PM
I love the switch in the spring, I can start going for long bicycle rides after work. Going back to standard time in the fall makes me sad. I would be all for year round DST, but they tried that when I was a kid, and too many parents didn't like their kids going to school in the dark during the late fall/early winter. I'd only be in favor of getting rid of it if the work schedule then shifted to seven to four.
 
2011-11-05 12:30:23 PM
Moogable: drive 75 miles to work

there's your problem. unless it's a temporary job site or a very insecure job, people who choose to live that far away from work don't get to biatch.
 
2011-11-05 12:31:28 PM
I think WORLD time would be a bit much, but at least we could have a single U.S. time. we don't do DST in AZ, but in a way we are affected the most by it.... i like being on pacific most of the year. sucks being on mountain, nobody gives a single eff about mountain.

everything happens an hour later for the next few months.

midnight ET - now 10pm, was 9pm (most national stores publish ads)
midnight CT - now 11pm, was 10pm (woot!)
midnight MT- nobody cares, nothing happens at midnight mountain.
midnight PT - now 1am, was midnight (California based companies, and xbox live time)
 
2011-11-05 12:32:28 PM
Anyone who thinks dst is stupid isn't a skier and should be shot.
 
2011-11-05 12:35:05 PM
you still have the same amount of time, who farking cares. it's not like you have a job to go to anyways.
 
2011-11-05 12:38:24 PM
apathy2673: Anyone who thinks dst is stupid isn't a skier and should be shot.

Why should I lose an hour of sleep every day so you can ski,some guy can play golf,and everyone can wear sunglasses at 9pm? Risking the most sacred thing to a persons body--SLEEP. So people can fark off for an extra hour...
 
2011-11-05 12:42:42 PM
10 U.S.C. 311: Try waking up before 8am for a change. We're about to return to standard time. Thank god..

I work from 12-8 am.

You know what sun I get up here in Wisconsin? 20 minutes of glare in my windshield on my drive home. I don't get to see the sun after the DST change. Wake up at 5 in the afternoon. Might as well be 2 in the morning.
 
2011-11-05 12:43:43 PM
apathy2673: Anyone who thinks dst is stupid isn't a skier and should be shot.

I don't really care if set the east coast to four hours off UTC or five. However, I'd rather we just pick one and keep it there. Changing it every six months is a pain in the ass for a whole host of reasons.
 
2011-11-05 12:45:33 PM
12349876: Moogable: drive 75 miles to work

there's your problem. unless it's a temporary job site or a very insecure job, people who choose to live that far away from work don't get to biatch.


It's not so much that I want to live this far away, but I can't afford anything closer, and can't make a similar amount of money working nearby. Small towns are kinda craptastic for that.
 
2011-11-05 12:46:26 PM
ole prophet: It sucks dick. Once it happens, it may as well be midnight at 7pm here.

So you like Daylight Saving Time, but hate Standard Time.
 
2011-11-05 12:47:00 PM
Cup_O_Jo: apathy2673: Anyone who thinks dst is stupid isn't a skier and should be shot.

Why should I lose an hour of sleep every day so you can ski,some guy can play golf,and everyone can wear sunglasses at 9pm? Risking the most sacred thing to a persons body--SLEEP. So people can fark off for an extra hour...


I'm sorry, what?
 
2011-11-05 12:47:26 PM
It's a trick played by Obama to shift more taxpayer money to the green energy sector. Subpoenas forthcoming.
 
2011-11-05 12:48:05 PM
harrycary: Diana Fyer: Not only does it fark up my drinking schedule, that extra hour of sunlight all summer has faded the hell outta my curtains.

I don't know if your joking or not, but what difference does time mean?

It's not like time can stop you from drinking and the sun still shines for
the same duration.


/Googles "That's the joke picture"
 
2011-11-05 12:48:56 PM
Moogable: 12349876: Moogable: drive 75 miles to work

there's your problem. unless it's a temporary job site or a very insecure job, people who choose to live that far away from work don't get to biatch.

It's not so much that I want to live this far away, but I can't afford anything closer, and can't make a similar amount of money working nearby. Small towns are kinda craptastic for that.


I would believe 10 or 20 or even 30, but no way am I believing 75 unless it's huge tracts of land or a McMansion.
 
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