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(Washington Times) Scary As if you didn't have enough to worry about, it may be possible for hackers to open prison doors to allow convicts to escape. Sweet dreams sugar muffin   (washingtontimes.com) divider line 32
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2011-11-05 07:56:59 AM
I suppose the only question that needs to be asked first is why can this ICS be accessed from outside the physical building(s)?
 
2011-11-05 07:59:59 AM
Considering most prisoners are in prison for non violent offenses I say Meh,
 
2011-11-05 08:46:49 AM
I have a hard time believing anything The Washington Times publishes.
 
2011-11-05 09:11:52 AM
every time a scare story like this comes up I have to wonder if there is some sort of horribly restrictive/invasive legislation pending before congress. usually 'OMG HACKERS' means someone is trying to pass some new law that will f*ck over consumers.
 
2011-11-05 09:18:11 AM
NewportBarGuy: I have a hard time believing anything The Washington Times publishes.

Why? Just because they make up most of the data they published and are owned by a cult leader doesn't mean they are any less legit then Fox News.
 
2011-11-05 09:21:20 AM
Weaver95: every time a scare story like this comes up I have to wonder if there is some sort of horribly restrictive/invasive legislation pending before congress. usually 'OMG HACKERS' means someone is trying to pass some new law that will f*ck over consumers.

You shouldn't think like that. It is more likely legislation that will put even more of the legal system in private control. Restrictive/invasive Legislation is pointless unless that it mints your donors or yourself a pretty penny.
 
2011-11-05 09:32:22 AM
Rozotorical: NewportBarGuy: I have a hard time believing anything The Washington Times publishes.

Why? Just because they make up most of the data they published and are owned by a cult leader doesn't mean they are any less legit then Fox News.


You're right, good sir. Forgive my lack of faith. I am disturbed.
 
2011-11-05 09:33:54 AM
After the hackers open the doors, they should have one of those Zardoz head things shoot out a bunch of machetes and spiked clubs in the middle of the prison yard. Whoever had that on pay-per-view would rake in the cash hand over fist.
 
2011-11-05 10:03:41 AM
meh...I'd hypothesize that we could let out over 50% of the people we currently have incarcerated without any noticeable spike in crime.


Also this...
media.washtimes.com

Is farking ridiculous. Looks like a company is doing everything they can to maximize profits.
 
2011-11-05 10:50:18 AM
If its a computer and its connected to a network its vulnerable.

/the answer is simply not connecting the control network to another network the criminals can use to attack it
//like ... say ... the fark'n internet
 
2011-11-05 11:01:07 AM
Big Cheese Make Hair Go Boom: I suppose the only question that needs to be asked first is why can this ICS be accessed from outside the physical building(s)?

Because Tammy in HR decided she didn't want to have to hook her laptop up to the network every morning. So she installed her own WIFI router. And since Tammy is an airhead, she didn't set up a password or encryption.

/More common than you think.
 
2011-11-05 11:07:46 AM
It sounds like its mostly lazy ass IT.

They want to do everything remotely, and they cant even be bothered to take out things like usb ports.
 
2011-11-05 11:16:22 AM
Honest Bender: Big Cheese Make Hair Go Boom: I suppose the only question that needs to be asked first is why can this ICS be accessed from outside the physical building(s)?

Because Tammy in HR decided she didn't want to have to hook her laptop up to the network every morning. So she installed her own WIFI router. And since Tammy is an airhead, she didn't set up a password or encryption.

/More common than you think.


So much this. In a former life I reaped the benefits of people's stupidity and laziness.

Now I just read about it on Fark, so I suppose I still do.
 
2011-11-05 11:26:57 AM
But the WayneTech door controls are supposed to be unhackable.
 
2011-11-05 11:34:15 AM
MayoSlather: meh...I'd hypothesize that we could let out over 50% of the people we currently have incarcerated without any noticeable spike in crime.


Also this...
[media.washtimes.com image 602x400]

Is farking ridiculous. Looks like a company is doing everything they can to maximize profits.


More than that. If you look at the crime data and incarceration rates over the last twenty years you'll see that crime hasn't really moved either up or down but incarceration rates have skyrocketed by multiples.
 
2011-11-05 11:35:33 AM
Hopheavy: It sounds like its mostly lazy ass IT.

They want to do everything remotely, and they cant even be bothered to take out things like usb ports.


Yep. FTA: "In many prisons, technical support staff would add connections to enable them to update the system's software remotely after the ICS systems were installed by security specialists."
 
2011-11-05 11:44:53 AM
t3knomanser: But the WayneTech door controls are supposed to be unhackable.

Awesome. Been playing Arkham City lately, so I finally get a goddamn Batman joke.
 
2011-11-05 12:14:34 PM
Every airlocked door in a prison could roll open at the same time for an hour straight but unless someone says "Hey guys, ALL the doors are open and they can't close," no one would know they had a clear route.
 
2011-11-05 12:22:19 PM
RedPhoenix122: Been playing Arkham City lately, so I finally get a goddamn Batman joke

Because I'm a Mac using lus3r, I just picked up Arkham Asylum.
 
2011-11-05 12:34:14 PM
Let's tell everyone about it.
 
2011-11-05 12:52:41 PM
t3knomanser: Because I'm a Mac using lus3r, I just picked up Arkham Asylum.

I picked it up for PS3 at Walmart, had a special, buy City, get Asylum free. Since I hadn't played Asylum yet, figured it was worth it.
 
2011-11-05 12:54:24 PM
Things will be OK as long as they keep Simon Phoenix frozen,
 
2011-11-05 01:16:46 PM
Most prison systems are stand alone closed systems just for that reason. Unless they are james bond and can sneak into the jail to access the computers they wouldn't be able to open the cell doors.
 
2011-11-05 01:19:01 PM
t3knomanser: RedPhoenix122: Been playing Arkham City lately, so I finally get a goddamn Batman joke

Because I'm a Mac using lus3r, I just picked up Arkham Asylum.



Boot Camp, my man. I play all the latest games on my iMac thanks to the wonders of dual-booting and Steam.
 
2011-11-05 03:52:52 PM
MayoSlather: meh...I'd hypothesize that we could let out over 50% of the people we currently have incarcerated without any noticeable spike in crime.


Also this...
[media.washtimes.com image 602x400]

Is farking ridiculous. Looks like a company is doing everything they can to maximize profits.


Did you notice the "CDC"? California Dept. Of Corrections. Orange suits are new fish. They'll only be crammed in like that until the system figures out what to do with them, maybe 3 months, tops. Then they'll either go to a cell block, 2 men to what was probably intended as a one-man cell, or to another dormitory, this one with single beds, but still packed about that tightly. Trust me, the CDC is a net consumer of tax dollars. No one's getting rich but the correctional officers, who theoretically make $70k a year, but usually work so much overtime they actually get $100K+.
 
2011-11-05 04:43:21 PM
Considering that the Iran nuclear facilities were hacked without outside connections, it would be relatively trival to hack the prisons. They probably use industrial controls, which don't exactly have a lot of security.

If it were me I'd use a janitor and a USB key to deliver it.
 
2011-11-05 06:48:58 PM
It's true. I heard that Kevin Mitnick could whistle launch codes into a phone and start WW3!
 
2011-11-05 07:01:03 PM
MayoSlather: meh...I'd hypothesize that we could let out over 50% of the people we currently have incarcerated without any noticeable spike in crime.


Also this...
[media.washtimes.com image 602x400]

Is farking ridiculous. Looks like a company is doing everything they can to maximize profits.


This. Our so-called criminal justice system is a grotesquely expensive, big-government nanny state psychological welfare program for scared white people. Fire half the cops and shut half the prisons, and I'll be just as safe.
If you aren't, that's your fault for being weak - why should I pay for your weak, soft, middle-class butt to feel safe?
Scared of criminals? Learn to fight . Get a gun. Don't ask for more government "public safety" welfare.
 
2011-11-05 07:06:56 PM
jso2897: psychological welfare program for scared white people

No, it's a welfare system for the prison industry. Private prisons mean private profits, and having the largest population of prisoners in the world makes that a lot of profits. Couple that with the simplistic political logic: "Crime bad, tough on crime good" means that anyone running for office can't go wrong by proposing more draconian legislation. It has nothing to do with "fear of crime" as much as simple dichotomies: we all understand that crime is bad, so anyone who wants to relax penalties for crimes obviously is not operating off the same playbook as the rest of us.
 
2011-11-06 01:22:00 AM
t3knomanser: But the WayneTech door controls are supposed to be unhackable.

Sir, surely you remember that Wayne's bid for the job was far too high, we went with the lower bidder and saved some real coin on that upgrade.
What was the contractor's name? Nail? Bolt? It was something like...oh I remember, Hammer. Justin Hammer won the bid and installed the system.
 
2011-11-06 01:32:20 AM
You know what they can't hack in the prisons? The assault rifles watching over the yard and exits.
 
2011-11-06 07:23:54 AM
Ishidan: Justin Hammer won the bid and installed the system.

The newest Marvel/DC crossover: Prison Mismanagement. Look for it in comic book stores this fall.
 
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