...and just waiting for an excuse for war with the US

We bomb them, invade them, replace their government, shoot them, shoot their friends, and tell their women they don't have to stay in the kitchen.

WTF are they waiting for?!?

It's almost like the Afghans have a different culture than our own...

No Shiat Sherlock

Good for him, telling the truth, even if it cost him his job. Osama is dead. We have no real reason to have boots on the ground beyond intel gathering. If we get wind a terrorist training camp, bomb it.

Sadly every thing he said is prob vary true. Many of are soldier die in that land for nothing...

Why aren't they happy and grateful that we tore their country and their lives apart? What a bunch of jerks.

They started it on 9-11-01. They got what they asked for.

ToxicMunkee: Why aren't they happy and grateful that we tore their country and their lives apart? What a bunch of jerks.

They certainly had their shiat together before the US et al intervened.

Shush, troll.

ungrateful

Yer kidding, right?

We'll just have to keep bombing, shooting, and occupying them until they love us, then.

Anyone who's actually been downrange will tell you what a bunch of useless, ignorant farkups those people are.

Probably completely true, but hardly the sort of thing a general can say in public.

"The Afghan people are an honorable people, and comments such as these will not keep us from accomplishing our most critical and shared mission: bringing about a stable, peaceful and prosperous Afghanistan," Allen said in a statement.


Please tell me that this isn't our goal in Afghanistan. Let's just leave. The people will have Karzai hanging by his heels ten minutes after we've gone no matter when we go, and it couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

We can't afford to wage these foreign-aid occupations anymore. Sorry, Libs.

stuman98: Why aren't they happy and grateful that we tore their country and their lives apart? What a bunch of jerks.

They started it on 9-11-01. They got what they asked for.

The problem is, these guys are practically stuck in the bronze age. The average Afghan peasant doesn't even know the WTC fell down. Maybe not even that there was a WTC in the first place. They have no farking idea why we're there. That being the case, punishing them is sort of pointless, like kicking the shiat out of a puppy who unwittingly crapped on the floor.

While what he said may have been true, as a active-service military officer, he's not really allowed to make statements like that in a public forum about a war we are currently involved in.

Which is why they relieved him. It says it right there. 'Inappropriate public comment.'

It may suck, but it's still a rule.

Who was more accomplished, General MaCarthur or the low life that fired him?
Same Situation.

AkaDad 2011-11-04 11:38:46 PM

We can't afford to wage these foreign-aid occupations anymore. Sorry, Libs.


Nasty comblicker says O HAI!

torquestripe: Who was more accomplished, General MaCarthur or the low life that fired him?
Same Situation.

MacArthur wanted to nuke everything in site and was openly defiant of the civilian control of the military. Good thing he got fired.

The general in this story is just calling it as it is. Karzai is corrupt and biting the hand that props him up. Let the US pull out and hope Arab Spring spreads to Central Asia.

forgotmydamnusername:
The problem is, these guys are practically stuck in the bronze age. The average Afghan peasant doesn't even know the WTC fell down. Maybe not even that there was a WTC in the first place. They have no farking idea why we're there. That being the case, punishing them is sort of pointless, like kicking the shiat out of a puppy who unwittingly crapped on the floor.

Significant parts of the rural population of Afghanistan have never left their VILLAGE. The idea that they started an international war is a farce.

orclover: Never speak up or tell the truth in the millitary, never volunteer. You would think that somebody who made general would know that.

Clearly he could not lie any more. If he keeps lying, he is sending more soldiers die in a battles he dosen't belive can be won.

red5ish: "The Afghan people are an honorable people, and comments such as these will not keep us from accomplishing our most critical and shared mission: bringing about a stable, peaceful and prosperous Afghanistan," Allen said in a statement.
Please tell me that this isn't our goal in Afghanistan. Let's just leave. The people will have Karzai hanging by his heels ten minutes after we've gone no matter when we go, and it couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

"Stable, peaceful, and prosperous?" Hey, I have an idea--why don't we try to get that going in our own country?

torquestripe: Who was more accomplished, General MaCarthur or the low life that fired him?
Same Situation.

YOU should do a bit of research on Mac - he was actually a poor general with excellent PR and and massive ego.

one of Ripley's Bad Guys: torquestripe: Who was more accomplished, General MaCarthur or the low life that fired him?
Same Situation.

YOU should do a bit of research on Mac - he was actually a poor general with excellent PR and and massive ego.

Except for that pushing the Chinese back in Korea thing, or the whole molding Japan to be a world partner in Democracy deal, and the completely incompetent following orders from his civilian masters as required of a U.S. military general obligation.
Yeah, other than that he was a poor general in the U.S. ARMY.

torquestripe: one of Ripley's Bad Guys: torquestripe: Who was more accomplished, General MaCarthur or the low life that fired him?
Same Situation.

YOU should do a bit of research on Mac - he was actually a poor general with excellent PR and and massive ego.

Except for that pushing the Chinese back in Korea thing, or the whole molding Japan to be a world partner in Democracy deal, and the completely incompetent following orders from his civilian masters as required of a U.S. military general obligation.
Yeah, other than that he was a poor general in the U.S. ARMY.

no. he was actually facing an inferior enemy - and had a nasty habit of ignoring intel he did not like... think Yalu and Philippines,

one of Ripley's Bad Guys: torquestripe: one of Ripley's Bad Guys: torquestripe: Who was more accomplished, General MaCarthur or the low life that fired him?
Same Situation.

YOU should do a bit of research on Mac - he was actually a poor general with excellent PR and and massive ego.

Except for that pushing the Chinese back in Korea thing, or the whole molding Japan to be a world partner in Democracy deal, and the completely incompetent following orders from his civilian masters as required of a U.S. military general obligation.
Yeah, other than that he was a poor general in the U.S. ARMY.

no. he was actually facing an inferior enemy - and had a nasty habit of ignoring intel he did not like... think Yalu and Philippines,

He didn't have a whole War Department or Department of Defense steering him!
I see your point.

orclover: Never speak up or tell the truth in the millitary, never volunteer. You would think that somebody who made general would know that.

That really depends on your rank, enlisted can get away with saying a lot of stuff an officer couldn't, since nobody really cares what they think anyway.

As for volunteering, my experience is that it was a 50/50 shot as to whether you were better off volunteering or not, it is not like avoiding volunteering usually got you out of work, it just meant you choose to work on something else. Better advice is to know what the hell you are volunteering for before you do so.

Fark Me To Tears: Why should the Afghans be grateful to us? Seriously.

No reason.
Except for 14,337 US casualties.
Other than that, no reason.

Wow, look at all the posts here where almost everyone agrees that we should just get the hell out and that we have done enough damage to piss off the whole lot of them enough to actually want to attack us.

Now let me FARK IT ALL UP by asking "Which of all the candidates has been saying this for years?".
(No, please, don't answer this. It's a nice thread going on here. We all already know who it is. DON"T say it!)

Please, carry on.

Allen262: Sadly every thing he said is prob vary true. Many of are soldier die in that land for nothing...

stuman98: They started it on 9-11-01. They got what they asked for.

torquestripe: Who was more accomplished, General MaCarthur or the low life that fired him?
Same Situation.

Wow, there are a lot of really scary people in this thread!

Stoker: Wow, look at all the posts here where almost everyone agrees that we should just get the hell out and that we have done enough damage to piss off the whole lot of them enough to actually want to attack us.

Now let me FARK IT ALL UP by asking "Which of all the candidates has been saying this for years?".
(No, please, don't answer this. It's a nice thread going on here. We all already know who it is. DON"T say it!)

Please, carry on.

Herman Cain?

The only reason that country's not a parking lot right now is because it's too farking mountainous. Hell's Kittybox is a better name for that place.

Uh yeah I'm pretty sure they are sick of foreign militaries running around the place vaporizing, shooting, and otherwise maiming their countrymen.

Hell 20-year-old Taliban fighters were children when 9/11 happened. Many of them have no clue why there are even occupiers in their country. They just know their Gawd and to shoot NATO

Stoker: Wow, look at all the posts here where almost everyone agrees that we should just get the hell out and that we have done enough damage to piss off the whole lot of them enough to actually want to attack us.

Now let me FARK IT ALL UP by asking "Which of all the candidates has been saying this for years?".
(No, please, don't answer this. It's a nice thread going on here. We all already know who it is. DON"T say it!)

Please, carry on.

Dennis Kucinich? Bernie Sanders? Ralph Nader? Roger Calero?

Howard Dean

Smackledorfer: Howard Dean

Him too! A universe of non-far-right-toolbags that fit that criterion and are also right about more than one thing.

Fark Me To Tears: Why should the Afghans be grateful to us? Seriously.

Some of the girls there get to go to school again.

In some towns.

And they did have a sorta election that first go 'round, but then Karzai shat all over the second one.

They still make those nice warm blankets there, though, right?

Has any US general explained why it's in the interests of the American people to be in Afghanistan?

forgotmydamnusername: stuman98: Why aren't they happy and grateful that we tore their country and their lives apart? What a bunch of jerks.

They started it on 9-11-01. They got what they asked for.

The problem is, these guys are practically stuck in the bronze age. The average Afghan peasant doesn't even know the WTC fell down. Maybe not even that there was a WTC in the first place. They have no farking idea why we're there. That being the case, punishing them is sort of pointless, like kicking the shiat out of a puppy who unwittingly crapped on the floor.

This.
The Taliban were just some people that hitched their wagon to the wrong trailer. Then after they found out what was going on, instead of snitching they decided to roll out with Al Queada. At first I felt bad for them thinking they may have put their eggs in the wrong basket. But when they had the choice of leaving that basket and didn't, the hell with them.

gaspode: Probably completely true, but hardly the sort of thing a general can say in public.

Probably completely true, but hardly the sort of thing a general can say in public.

Probably completely true, but hardly the sort of thing a general can say in public.

Probably completely true, but hardly the sort of thing a general can say in public.