Dimensio: Winning: Sad. Two men pretending to be 'married' to each other while a TV comedian pretends to be a 'minister' and 'officiates' at their 'wedding'. The whole thing is absurd but then, Conan is a TV comedy show so perhaps this farce was performed in the right place.

I am curious: are you "trolling", or are you genuinely mentally retarded?

He's referencing Charlie Sheen, so I think we all know the answer to that one.

Winning: Sad. Two men pretending to be 'married' to each other while a TV comedian pretends to be a 'minister' and 'officiates' at their 'wedding'. The whole thing is absurd but then, Conan is a TV comedy show so perhaps this farce was performed in the right place.

I know one person who was originally scheduled to attend the TV taping of this episode of Conan but when, 24 hours prior to the show, they learned it was going to be gay-centered, with a 'wedding', no less, they threw away their previously cherished ticket. I can't blame them. I hope the Conan show's ratings tank after performing this gratuitous insult to normal people and calling it 'entertainment'. It's nothing but a hollow celebration of sexual perversion.

Like many, I'm sick and tired of seeing the promotion of homosexual behavior disguised as something 'normal' and worthy of full acceptance by otherwise sane people. That a live TV show goes this far in pushing the gay agenda (homo 'marriage' legalized everywhere) is a portent of even worse insults to our national intelligence and a further erosion of our collective morality. Did I say this was sad? In more ways than one.

"Bio:
I'm a young man in my upper-mid 20s who cares about feelings and just wants to take it slow."

That may be gayer than two men getting married.

The first gay man to get married on late night tv

hbk72777: [encrypted-tbn3.google.com image 160x180]

The first gay man to get married on late night tv

Good grief, I forgot what an ugly man he was. I'm not Adonis, but at least I inherited better genes than that.

Conan caps first anniversary on TBS with a gay wedding in NYC. "I now pronounce you husband and husband. You can kiss the groom"

In other words, his ratings suck because he isn't funny so he is pandering. Why didn't you just say so, Subby?

The troll is strong with this thread.

Who cares? I told the GF a few days ago that just give all the fundies a state and let them build walls to keep out undesirables.

The ironic thing is I named Mississippi as the place to put them.

Uncle Wiggly: from the 3:00AM and 11:00AM TFD ...

I approve of gay marriage--and one day hope to complete our set of of Kitchenaid mixer accessories--but I do not like it being used as a stunt. We are not carnival folks or trained animals.

Conan did well, a generous, welcoming gesture--an idyllic Manhattan fall under a harvest moon--and he did it for one of his team. But it's still a stunt --one-liners, banter, and a ceremony that would probably set a speed record in Vegas. All finished off by 'Ted Turner' pushing the newlyweds up the aisle and off into the sunset while they were astride a squeaky-wheeled prop horse.

I expect silly trashy weddings-zombies, Star Wars, underwater, True Blood, skydiving. I expect people who do not value a thing to cheapen it with glue, glitter and mylar balloons. But right now, I expect more of gay couples, particularly in your little television bubble--the ones where a characters' life troubles are indicated by her carrying four--even five!--perfect, label-out, weightless shopping bags. I would appreciate it if there were fewer stunt weddings, that even civil ceremonies be held with an ember of dignity, and that you respect those of us in the other 44 states who do not have this right.

Mazel Tov, kids, and please wait here. Triumph wants to talk to you about your wardrobe, since he's pretty sure the last place he saw it was Studio 54.

/will someone help me out of the recliner of rage?

And this, dear friends, is how one goes about protecting the sanctity of marriage.

/well, of the wedding ceremony, anyway

Flappyhead: The troll is strong with this thread.

And so is the stupid. Half the people in here actually believe it was a valid and legal wedding, and not just an attention whoring publicity stunt. Kind of a dickish move on his part, if you think about it.

Absolutely disgusting.

This still won't make me like gingers!

As a married straight man, I found their exchange of vows emotional and moving.

Two people who love each other should be able to pledge that love and commitment and get married. Period.

Dimensio: ThisNameSux: Absolutely disgusting.

While you may dislike Mr. O'Brien, referring to his officiation of a wedding as "disgusting" is hyperbolic.

Not if you are a gay man offended by his use of homosexual oppression as a mere ratings ploy. In that case I can easily see the valid use of "disgusted" in the literal sense.

/"Officiation"? Seriously???

Balchinian: Dimensio: ThisNameSux: Absolutely disgusting.

While you may dislike Mr. O'Brien, referring to his officiation of a wedding as "disgusting" is hyperbolic.

Not if you are a gay man offended by his use of homosexual oppression as a mere ratings ploy. In that case I can easily see the valid use of "disgusted" in the literal sense.

We must preserve the sanctity of gay marriage.

MaxxLarge: Uncle Wiggly: /will someone help me out of the recliner of rage?

Well, you could start by taking the stick out of your rectum.

Maybe then you'll progress to realizing that just because the exact way two other people choose to get married doesn't happen to meet some uptight personal standard of how YOU would've done it, that this doesn't undermine the validity of the message, the resonance of the progress, or the sanctity of their commitment.

And maybe when you're finished with that, you'll come to the conclusion that stuck-up, bigoted assholes expressing disproportionate outrage over the way other people live their lives is part of the reason why only six states have approved same-sex marriage so far. And that by giving these two a raft of $#!+ over the way they did it, you're doing your part to see to it that you'll never even GET the right to have your own marriage in whatever precisely perfect, far-more "tasteful" way your OCD little heart desires.

Seriously...Fight the enemy. Fighting allies simply because they don't choose to celebrate victory in the specific way YOU would have chosen to isn't helping you get you any closer to being able to.

You're missing out on a big distinction. Some people want to use laws to prevent equality. Uncle Wiggly thinks this was tacky and tasteless but he's not trying to make it illegal to have a tacky and tasteless wedding.

NobleHam: Uncle Wiggly thinks this was tacky and tasteless but he's not trying to make it illegal to have a tacky and tasteless wedding.

Weddings:Tacky and Tasteless::Honeymoon:Last hurrah of sex

OH FFS PEOPLE! Nobody got married!!!!

Conan O'Brien does not have the authority in the city or state of NY to perform weddings...it was a performance, and nothing more.

O'Brien is an ordained minister of the Universal Life Church, which is merely an online organization and therefore not a church in the legal sense in NYC.
Citation: Ravenal v. Ravenal, 72 Misc.2d 100, 338 N.Y.S.2d 324 (Sup.Ct.N.Y.County 1972)

In fact, the ULC ordination has been specifically ruled as not being valid to perform weddings in NY.
Citation: Ranieri v. Ranieri, New York Law Journal, March 27, 1989, as well as the Ravenal citation above.

Those men, if they are married, were not married by Conan O'Brien.

Gay marriage ruined my marriage because ...


I got nothing. I couldn't even think of a stupid excuse.

Cottage Cheesecake: OH FFS PEOPLE! Nobody got married!!!!

Conan O'Brien does not have the authority in the city or state of NY to perform weddings...it was a performance, and nothing more.

O'Brien is an ordained minister of the Universal Life Church, which is merely an online organization and therefore not a church in the legal sense in NYC.
Citation: Ravenal v. Ravenal, 72 Misc.2d 100, 338 N.Y.S.2d 324 (Sup.Ct.N.Y.County 1972)

In fact, the ULC ordination has been specifically ruled as not being valid to perform weddings in NY.
Citation: Ranieri v. Ranieri, New York Law Journal, March 27, 1989, as well as the Ravenal citation above.

Those men, if they are married, were not married by Conan O'Brien.

I'll have to keep that in mind if things ever go askew with the wife, my best friend became a ULC minister and registered with the state to marry us.

dustlesswalnut: Cottage Cheesecake: OH FFS PEOPLE! Nobody got married!!!!

Conan O'Brien does not have the authority in the city or state of NY to perform weddings...it was a performance, and nothing more.

O'Brien is an ordained minister of the Universal Life Church, which is merely an online organization and therefore not a church in the legal sense in NYC.
Citation: Ravenal v. Ravenal, 72 Misc.2d 100, 338 N.Y.S.2d 324 (Sup.Ct.N.Y.County 1972)

In fact, the ULC ordination has been specifically ruled as not being valid to perform weddings in NY.
Citation: Ranieri v. Ranieri, New York Law Journal, March 27, 1989, as well as the Ravenal citation above.

Those men, if they are married, were not married by Conan O'Brien.

I'll have to keep that in mind if things ever go askew with the wife, my best friend became a ULC minister and registered with the state to marry us.

Are you in NYC, or just NY State? (The laws are different in NYC than they are in the rest of the state.) If you were married in the city and after 1972, you are technically not married, and should do something about it immediately if you own property jointly, have life or health insurance, children, etc. If anyone ever looks into it and catches that, they will not pay out on any claims, and if they think they can prove you knew you weren't legally married they can charge you with fraud. As could your wife, actually. If you were not married in NYC, or if it was prior to 1972, you are good. This is not something you should take lightly though.

If any of you are interested in digging through NYC City code for this (sickos!), I can save you some time. It is in the "Regulations of the City of New York" Under Title 51--City Clerk. Specifically, SS 3-06 sets forth that in order to perform a marriage in NYC (if you are not a judge) you have to show proof of "clerical authority". Paragraph (2) is where it says "Ordination certificates issued by the Universal Life Church or its affiliates are not acceptable as evidence of clerical authority...", and then it cites the same cases I mentioned earlier.

Law-Fu. I has it.

Cottage Cheesecake: Law-Fu. I has it.

Nah, we got married in Ohio a few years ago.

I'd be pissed off as all hell if someone tried to tell me that the minister of my choosing wasn't allowed to perform the wedding. How do you get married in NYC if you don't want to be wed by clergy from one of the Abrahamic religions and don't want to get married in the courthouse? I call bullshiat on that bullshiat law.

Cottage Cheesecake: words

Holy crap, I haven't seen you on here in a while. Still working for the suits, I see...:)

good for them and good for conan

dustlesswalnut: Cottage Cheesecake: Law-Fu. I has it.

Nah, we got married in Ohio a few years ago.

I'd be pissed off as all hell if someone tried to tell me that the minister of my choosing wasn't allowed to perform the wedding. How do you get married in NYC if you don't want to be wed by clergy from one of the Abrahamic religions and don't want to get married in the courthouse? I call bullshiat on that bullshiat law.

You don't have to be a cleric of an "Abrahamic" religion to perform weddings in NYC. But you do have to have a congregation with a charter and which meets in a physical location regularly, and you do have to have documentation from that congregation assigning you clerical authority. The laws in NYC are really specifically set up to avoid recognizing someone who is just slapping a title on their name in order to perform a wedding, and to prevent organizations like the ULC from assisting in that. So the short answer to your question is that you have to find a legitimate congregation of a non-Abrahamic church and ask their clerical authority to marry you. Or you could get married outside of NYC, though NY State still has provisions to deal with organizations like the ULC. From Sec.11 of the Domestic Relations Law of NY State: ... the state may act to prevent marriages being solemnized by mere philanderers purporting to officiate under the guise of a pseudo-religious faith..." So in essence, though it does not have to be "Abrahamic", it does have to be "religious" if it is not going to be done by a judge. The state law does not specifically mention the ULC, but if pressed I would bet that they would not recognize the ULC as a religious body. Nobody has gone down that road with the state yet though.

Balchinian:
Meh...I've been lurking. And working more than I probably should. Kind of surprised you are still here now that there aren't any classifieds for you to troll. ;)

tlchwi02: good for them and good for conan

How so?

ThisNameSux: Absolutely disgusting.

Seriously, just come out of the closet already before your inevitable murder-suicide shows up on Fark.

tlchwi02: good for them and good for conan

I mean, I can see how it is good for Conan...ratings. Clear enough. But I don't see this as good for the two men involved. Quite the opposite, actually, unless they were already (or have since been) married by legitimate means. Walking around thinking you are married when in fact you are not can create all sorts of legal and financial problems that will not become apparent until much later, at which time the consequences can be enormous and devastating. In addition, how do you think they will feel when they go to file the marriage certificate at the clerk's office and it gets rejected because Conan's ordination is from an online scam website? I bet that will not please them very much, unless of course they knew about it all ahead of time and they were in it only to help provide Conan with some publicity. No, I don't see how this could be good for these guys at all.

bigpeeler: Oh yes. This is so very cool. I can't wait to see what's next on the agenda.

Raping your children and dogs, of course.

Cottage Cheesecake: dustlesswalnut: Cottage Cheesecake: Law-Fu. I has it.

Nah, we got married in Ohio a few years ago.

I'd be pissed off as all hell if someone tried to tell me that the minister of my choosing wasn't allowed to perform the wedding. How do you get married in NYC if you don't want to be wed by clergy from one of the Abrahamic religions and don't want to get married in the courthouse? I call bullshiat on that bullshiat law.

You don't have to be a cleric of an "Abrahamic" religion to perform weddings in NYC. But you do have to have a congregation with a charter and which meets in a physical location regularly, and you do have to have documentation from that congregation assigning you clerical authority. The laws in NYC are really specifically set up to avoid recognizing someone who is just slapping a title on their name in order to perform a wedding, and to prevent organizations like the ULC from assisting in that. So the short answer to your question is that you have to find a legitimate congregation of a non-Abrahamic church and ask their clerical authority to marry you. Or you could get married outside of NYC, though NY State still has provisions to deal with organizations like the ULC. From Sec.11 of the Domestic Relations Law of NY State: ... the state may act to prevent marriages being solemnized by mere philanderers purporting to officiate under the guise of a pseudo-religious faith..." So in essence, though it does not have to be "Abrahamic", it does have to be "religious" if it is not going to be done by a judge. The state law does not specifically mention the ULC, but if pressed I would bet that they would not recognize the ULC as a religious body. Nobody has gone down that road with the state yet though.

Leaving aside the whole ULC thing, are you really telling us that you have to be a member or a practising religious organisation to be allowed to marry someone and that it is impossible to get a licence to wed people unless you're religious? No such thing as a civil ceremony? Sounds like bull to me.

Winning: Sad. Two men pretending to be 'married' to each other while a TV comedian pretends to be a 'minister' and 'officiates' at their 'wedding'. The whole thing is absurd but then, Conan is a TV comedy show so perhaps this farce was performed in the right place.

I know one person who was originally scheduled to attend the TV taping of this episode of Conan but when, 24 hours prior to the show, they learned it was going to be gay-centered, with a 'wedding', no less, they threw away their previously cherished ticket. I can't blame them. I hope the Conan show's ratings tank after performing this gratuitous insult to normal people and calling it 'entertainment'. It's nothing but a hollow celebration of sexual perversion.

Like many, I'm sick and tired of seeing the promotion of homosexual behavior disguised as something 'normal' and worthy of full acceptance by otherwise sane people. That a live TV show goes this far in pushing the gay agenda (homo 'marriage' legalized everywhere) is a portent of even worse insults to our national intelligence and a further erosion of our collective morality. Did I say this was sad? In more ways than one.

2/10. +5 for not resorting to Bible quotes, but -3 for unoriginal use of "the gay agenda" and "sexual perversion".