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(Washington Post)   College students rely on Yahoo Answers for research, which explains why so many term papers address "How is babby formed?"   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 213
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2011-11-04 06:02:49 PM
I herd the russians invaded georgia, its funny because I dont see any tankz
 
2011-11-04 06:43:46 PM
I larfed.
 
2011-11-04 06:44:40 PM
We need some way to instain students.
 
2011-11-04 06:45:36 PM
This is why I fear for our future. These are the people who will be in charge.

Thankfully, I'll most likely be dead by then, so I'm not losing too much sleep over it.


Books*, how do they work?

*real or electronic, I have no opinion on that but use a REAL source of information for Fark's sake
 
2011-11-04 06:47:28 PM

Yahoo Answers is so bad for helpful information as far as tech stuff is concerned. It seems like most of the top answers to questions are given by computer geeks who have just barely learned the basics of hardware/software. The answers are no better than Roy asking "Have you tried turning it off and on again?"


So I can imagine what the answers are like to questions for research purposes.

 
2011-11-04 06:47:31 PM
I've busted tons of students for plagiarizing stuff off of Oppapers.com.
 
2011-11-04 06:47:35 PM
They need to do way instain mother who kill thier babbys. becuse these babby cant frigth back?
it was on the news this mroing a mother in ar who had kill her three kids . they are taking the three babby back to new york too lady to rest my pary are with the father who lost his chrilden ; i am truley sorry for your lots
 
2011-11-04 06:49:47 PM
logic523: I've busted tons of students for plagiarizing stuff off of Oppapers.com.

I've never heard of that website before today. Nor the Slideshare place. Answers and Yahoo Answers are useful for trolling and for fashion advice for the inept, but I didn't think there was more to it than that. What sort of shiatty research papers are students writing these days?
 
2011-11-04 06:49:53 PM
Obviously, cutting teacher payrolls and more standardized tests will fix this.
 
2011-11-04 06:50:26 PM
I have never found anything useful on either Yahoo Answers or Answers.com. Seriously, that's a big red "F" if I were a teacher or professor.

Wikipedia can be useful, but like ALL ENCYCLOPEDIAS, it is only a first source to determine references and where to look. It is not a paper.
 
2011-11-04 06:50:39 PM
I call shennanagins. My english teacher who taught at Hofstra, and then at my po-dunk community college, in her golden years, forbade us from using wikipedia and the like, because they were not reliable sources. So either the tenured professors have gotten very lazy, which is totally possible, or this story is BS. Then again we have people calling 911 because Mcdonalds is out of nuggets. So I suppose anything is possible.

She also said citing sources and doing bibliographies are an art form. MLA handbook was her bible.
 
2011-11-04 06:50:44 PM
Well I did learn how to tell if my son was gay.

/volcanos are really helpful
 
2011-11-04 06:51:12 PM
well i guess dat mak me collage eduamakated
 
2011-11-04 06:51:30 PM
I hate Yahoo answers almost as much as I hate eHow.

eHow: How to do XYZ

Step 1: This is how you do XYZ
Step 2: Do XYZ
 
2011-11-04 06:54:09 PM
Yahoo! Answers is right some of the time.

i113.photobucket.com
 
2011-11-04 06:54:46 PM
it's the same dumbasses that ask questions on yahoo answers that anwers the farking questions. yea, everybody needs to go to college. half the farkers in college needs to go back to high school
 
2011-11-04 06:56:24 PM
Onkel Buck: I call shennanagins. My english teacher who taught at Hofstra, and then at my po-dunk community college, in her golden years, forbade us from using wikipedia and the like, because they were not reliable sources. So either the tenured professors have gotten very lazy, which is totally possible, or this story is BS. Then again we have people calling 911 because Mcdonalds is out of nuggets. So I suppose anything is possible.

She also said citing sources and doing bibliographies are an art form. MLA handbook was her bible.


It may not even be the tenured who are lazy. Not pushing students too hard can lead to good student reviews. Personally, I like to torture my students, so I make them use books and peer-reviewed journals for their research. Any time they want to use a website they have to specifically clear it with me, otherwise they get dinged hard. Some dislike this intensely, but I don't really care about their opinion.

/is a biatch
 
2011-11-04 06:56:34 PM
One more because it makes me laugh.

thelaughingstork.com
 
2011-11-04 06:58:12 PM
If only they allowed us to use Wikipedia...
 
2011-11-04 06:59:12 PM
James F. Campbell: Obviously, cutting teacher payrolls and more standardized tests will fix this.

Well, if we did that, we could afford more tax relief for job-creators.
 
2011-11-04 07:00:41 PM
theorellior: We need some way to instain students.

Eh, they'll just frigth any attempt to instain
 
2011-11-04 07:01:02 PM
Every time I read a Yahoo! Answers post, a little part of me dies.
Seriously, their clientele strike me as severely brain damaged.
 
2011-11-04 07:02:00 PM
The Angry Hand of God: One more because it makes me laugh.

[thelaughingstork.com image 500x409]


Both awesome.

Thanks, yo.
 
2011-11-04 07:02:06 PM
When a professor taught me about jstor, and how the campus pays for it, you better believe I started using that. Took me from a 3.5 to a 4.0 in college.

/hated high school 2.0 student
//3.6 or higher in college. Dean's list each semester.
 
2011-11-04 07:03:37 PM
i1207.photobucket.com



image from: http://www.justabovesunset.com/id923.html
 
2011-11-04 07:04:21 PM
Cletus from Canuckistan: Every time I read a Yahoo! Answers post, a little part of me dies.
Seriously, their clientele strike me as severely brain damaged.


If Yahoo started charging real money to post a question (and to answer) it would clean up a lot of the nonsense.

I've never seen such a bastion of scum and villainy in the galaxy...except maybe for Far#######LOST CARRIER#######
 
2011-11-04 07:05:27 PM
They do this shiat because no college professor is going to check unless the claims a student is making are ludicrously bullshiat. You try writing a paper at 3 in the morning, and you'd probably do the same thing.
 
2011-11-04 07:05:40 PM
I'm a college student guilty of using google to find some simplified versions of what I'm delving into beforehand, to help with understanding wtf I'm supposed to get from the subject or to help me decide where to even start addressing a complex topic.

However, basing an entire paper on a yahoo answer? Is that even possible? You'd have to BS for about ten times the length of the answer you got - assuming that it was a good one. It's barely even believable at the little podunk school I go to, I can't imagine that happening in a university.

/I want to keep my faith in humanity
//please?
 
2011-11-04 07:05:46 PM
Everyone knows the REAL trick to getting references for your critical paper is google book search.

A quick search for something you're looking for pulls up some long forgotten work from dozens of authors who sound reasonably important. Sure, you don't get the whole book, but it'll pull you up a preview of that particular page giving you the all important quote, page number, and bibliographic information needed to utilize it.

You can easily get the crux of what they are saying in their "research" by scanning the bit of page you receive from your search. Find a handful that fit the context of your paper and TADA, you're done.
 
2011-11-04 07:06:14 PM
Don't Tongue the Reaper!: Onkel Buck: I call shennanagins. My english teacher who taught at Hofstra, and then at my po-dunk community college, in her golden years, forbade us from using wikipedia and the like, because they were not reliable sources. So either the tenured professors have gotten very lazy, which is totally possible, or this story is BS. Then again we have people calling 911 because Mcdonalds is out of nuggets. So I suppose anything is possible.

She also said citing sources and doing bibliographies are an art form. MLA handbook was her bible.

It may not even be the tenured who are lazy. Not pushing students too hard can lead to good student reviews. Personally, I like to torture my students, so I make them use books and peer-reviewed journals for their research. Any time they want to use a website they have to specifically clear it with me, otherwise they get dinged hard. Some dislike this intensely, but I don't really care about their opinion.

/is a biatch


Dr. Ward is that you?

/Your dad was a Marine and your son a US Army Ranger. I'm a veteran, and called you Drill Sargeant one time, and we were cool after that. Remember?
 
2011-11-04 07:07:05 PM
Maus III: Cletus from Canuckistan: Every time I read a Yahoo! Answers post, a little part of me dies.
Seriously, their clientele strike me as severely brain damaged.

If Yahoo started charging real money to post a question (and to answer) it would clean up a lot of the nonsense.

I've never seen such a bastion of scum and villainy in the galaxy...except maybe for Far#######LOST CARRIER#######


Never post from Alderaan.
 
2011-11-04 07:08:08 PM
Wow, just wow. We really need to do something about primary education in this country if college ends up having to do so much remedial training just to crank out graduates.
 
2011-11-04 07:08:56 PM
Question is, is this any different than how normal people behaved before the Internet? Was there truly a golden age of people buying home encyclopedias for reference, or running to the library for every problem? I have to imagine everyone relied on people they thought were smart for a lot of the answers (whether they were right or not).
 
2011-11-04 07:09:05 PM
If you don't know better than this by the time you graduate high school, you probably shouldn't get to graduate let alone attend college.
 
2011-11-04 07:09:18 PM
I worked in a second tier state university in the South for a while and was amazed at the poor research habits of these supposed university level students. One of them was assigned a paper on Reform Judaism. She somehow found the Jews for Jesus website and did ALL of her research on what she found there. It's a kind of reform I guess. Other students would just take the top three hits in a google or database search with no regard to its relevancy to what they were researching. So I ended up teaching a seminar in Research Methods only to discover 95% of my students were in it because they needed a one credit hour elective, not because they had any interest in the subject. And even after getting TWO lectures and countless examples of how to do a proper bibliography, slightly less than half of them got it right on their final paper. That was my last teaching job - can't say as I've missed it.
 
2011-11-04 07:09:26 PM
 
2011-11-04 07:09:29 PM
fusillade762: Wow, just wow. We really need to do something about primary education in this country if college ends up having to do so much remedial training just to crank out graduates.

Ha.
 
2011-11-04 07:09:40 PM
Yaxe: They do this shiat because no college professor is going to check unless the claims a student is making are ludicrously bullshiat. You try writing a paper at 3 in the morning, and you'd probably do the same thing.

Nope. Never did. There's something to be said for book larnin' the olde fashioned way.

You learn. And not just to copypasta.
 
2011-11-04 07:10:24 PM
ncinerate: Everyone knows the REAL trick to getting references for your critical paper is google book search.

A quick search for something you're looking for pulls up some long forgotten work from dozens of authors who sound reasonably important. Sure, you don't get the whole book, but it'll pull you up a preview of that particular page giving you the all important quote, page number, and bibliographic information needed to utilize it.

You can easily get the crux of what they are saying in their "research" by scanning the bit of page you receive from your search. Find a handful that fit the context of your paper and TADA, you're done.


why would someone spend $60,000 for college and do that
 
2011-11-04 07:12:11 PM
Onkel Buck: Don't Tongue the Reaper!: Onkel Buck: I call shennanagins. My english teacher who taught at Hofstra, and then at my po-dunk community college, in her golden years, forbade us from using wikipedia and the like, because they were not reliable sources. So either the tenured professors have gotten very lazy, which is totally possible, or this story is BS. Then again we have people calling 911 because Mcdonalds is out of nuggets. So I suppose anything is possible.

She also said citing sources and doing bibliographies are an art form. MLA handbook was her bible.

It may not even be the tenured who are lazy. Not pushing students too hard can lead to good student reviews. Personally, I like to torture my students, so I make them use books and peer-reviewed journals for their research. Any time they want to use a website they have to specifically clear it with me, otherwise they get dinged hard. Some dislike this intensely, but I don't really care about their opinion.

/is a biatch

Dr. Ward is that you?

/Your dad was a Marine and your son a US Army Ranger. I'm a veteran, and called you Drill Sargeant one time, and we were cool after that. Remember?


Not Dr. Ward, but I like her already.
 
2011-11-04 07:12:38 PM
logic523: I've busted tons of students for plagiarizing stuff off of Oppapers.com.

Cutting and pasting off of 3 or 4 papers on Oppapers.com sailed me through quite a few 100 and 200 level prereq classes.

Maus III: Cletus from Canuckistan: Every time I read a Yahoo! Answers post, a little part of me dies.
Seriously, their clientele strike me as severely brain damaged.

If Yahoo started charging real money to post a question (and to answer) it would clean up a lot of the nonsense.

I've never seen such a bastion of scum and villainy in the galaxy...except maybe for Far#######LOST CARRIER#######


Yahoo Answers reads like correspondence between two Italian Renaissance gentlemen compared to the idiocy spewed on Youtube comments.
 
2011-11-04 07:12:51 PM
fusillade762: Wow, just wow. We really need to do something about primary education in this country if college ends up having to do so much remedial training just to crank out graduates.

Zucotti the actual park agrees with you.
 
2011-11-04 07:13:30 PM
Easy solution.
Don't allow the students to cite anything from the internet as a reference. Make the little shiats go to the frikkin library and DO SOME ACTUAL RESEARCH AND LOOK IT UP IN AN ENCYCLOPEDIA. They might actually learn something instead of just cutting and pasting paragraphs from a web page.
 
2011-11-04 07:13:51 PM
If Yahoo started charging real money to post a question (and to answer) it would clean up a lot of the nonsense.

I was part of a business discussion several years ago when Yahoo was considering how to deal with the dreadful reputation. As it turned out Yahoo managers didn't care, as they regarded the site as "social networking".
 
2011-11-04 07:15:51 PM
Don't Tongue the Reaper!: It may not even be the tenured who are lazy. Not pushing students too hard can lead to good student reviews. Personally, I like to torture my students, so I make them use books and peer-reviewed journals for their research. Any time they want to use a website they have to specifically clear it with me, otherwise they get dinged hard. Some dislike this intensely, but I don't really care about their opinion.

There's plenty of books and peer reviewed journals on the internet, plus newspapers and other reliable organizational sites. Coming from a small college with limited library resources, I was ENCOURAGED to go find stuff on JSTOR.org and nytimes.com and other types of reliable websites, though there was usually a requirement that a certain number of books be used. Something like Yahoo Answers and I would have gotten a quick F. I have no idea why anyone would go there. At least Wikipedia usually has reliable citations and external links, many of them from real books, to get you started.
 
2011-11-04 07:17:51 PM
You want some real entertainment go to Yahoo Answers Relationship section.

"I like this guy but he has a girlfriend. How can I break them up so I can date him?"

Seen this question asked many times.
 
2011-11-04 07:19:35 PM
As someone who has a college degree and thankfully got a job juuuuuuuuuuuuuust before the recession hit (go class of 2005! Go!)

Here's your research protip.

Use wikipedia and the internet to identify where the things you read online got their source material. Then acquire those things, then cite the actual books the information originally came from.

Now granted this presumes that you have the basic ability to digest information quickly and can speed read a bit so you don't accidentally cite something that the book technically says, but really doesn't mean.

Example Partial Passage:

"I think we should burn down that orphanage!"

Full Passage:

"The only reason I would say I think we should burn down that orphanage is so we can build a better one, and teach these rapscallions the wonders of song and mathmatics and science, who will lead us one day into the glorious age of the future!"
 
2011-11-04 07:20:59 PM
Students don't know how to use the Internet for research. A few years back, when I was getting my second bachelor's, we had to do some online research for a term paper. I handed in a paper with my usual 15-20 cites, and the other students had about one or two. Everyone was aghast: "where did you find all that stuff?!?" On the Internet, I said, like we were supposed to.

Turned out these dorks, despite being 20 years younger than me and supposedly the "Internet generation", knew nothing about how to find info online except to put a few words into Google. As far as actually going to secondary sites, pulling up articles, going to stats sites or government sites and finding reports, these kids were as clueless as my aged grandmother. And yet THESE are the ones everyone seems to think are so "Net savvy" they can do just about anything with a computer.

I've been thinking about teaching classes on "How to actually use the Internet" when I get done with law school, for some supplemental income. Start at about middle school level, because it takes some practice.
 
2011-11-04 07:21:33 PM
Magnanimous_J: logic523: I've busted tons of students for plagiarizing stuff off of Oppapers.com.

Cutting and pasting off of 3 or 4 papers on Oppapers.com sailed me through quite a few 100 and 200 level prereq classes..


Many students do that. But I react to plagiarism like a geek staring at a hot girl. I can't stop looking at it. I can't stop looking for it. I'm happy to hunt for hours to find it.

I am the king of catching plagiarism. I'm better than turnitin.com. (Yes, I confirmed that with a series of test cases.)
 
2011-11-04 07:22:08 PM
I make mine (have made, are making, and will make) use textual devices for readatory measures...

Everyday.

;)
 
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