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2011-11-04 10:15:44 AM
After years of public education it's almost unfathomable that fear of autism is still one of the top reasons parents don't get their kids vaccinated. Link How does a discredited study by one researcher gain such long-lasting traction?
 
2011-11-04 10:41:05 AM
Sybarite: After years of public education it's almost unfathomable that fear of autism is still one of the top reasons parents don't get their kids vaccinated. Link How does a discredited study by one researcher gain such long-lasting traction?

The saw reason that their are truthers and climate change deniers, a severe lack of critical thinking skills reinforced by the echo of ignorant voices elevated to places of prominence by the media that in previous times would be ignored. Unfortunately the 24 hour news cycle needs filler and controversy sells.
 
2011-11-04 10:48:09 AM
This quote, from an anti-vax parent, made me all stabby:

It is important not to tell other parents you know better than they do about their child's autism.

You know what? She does know better. So do all credible scientists and doctors. They're not calling you a bad parent (although I might), they're not looking down on you. It is not a personal insult. It is meeting facts head on and working on a solution based on the evidence. Maybe there isn't a solution right now, and that sucks, I get it, but nothing about this situation will be improved by bringing back polio.

Dara O'Briain on science. (new window) "Science knows it doesn't know everything. Otherwise it'd stop. But just because science doesn't know everything doesn't mean you get to fill in the blanks with whatever fairytale you choose."
 
2011-11-04 10:51:28 AM
What's the going derp these days, since they stopped using Thimerisol back in 2001. Surely autism rates haven't decreased since then. Where are the anti-vax goalposts now?
 
2011-11-04 11:02:08 AM
Diogenes: What's the going derp these days, since they stopped using Thimerisol back in 2001. Surely autism rates haven't decreased since then. Where are the anti-vax goalposts now?

When that thimerosal shiat was going on I liked to point out how there was a 10 year lag in rise in rates of autism meaning 2-3 whole generations of kids got MMR with thimerosal without any increase in autism and see their heads asplode.
 
2011-11-04 11:03:25 AM
Sybarite: How does a discredited study by one researcher gain such long-lasting traction?

Because fear, depression, anger, and sadness. Without a answer, parents that saw their apparently normal toddler become an autistic child go crazy searching for answers. Those without the ability to separate emotion from rational thought will hold onto the most "obvious" answer they find for all it's worth.

Not that that makes it ok. These people are still idiots. the groups, corporations, etc. that reinforce this myth to keep the cycle of delusion going are the real problem.
 
2011-11-04 11:09:00 AM
She is no where near as hot as Jenny. There for she is wrong
 
2011-11-04 11:15:13 AM
The Stealth Hippopotamus: She is no where near as hot as Jenny. There for she is wrong

We should try and convince her that fake tits give you Alzheimer's.
 
2011-11-04 11:49:55 AM
I predict a troll level of somewhere around 8 McCarthys out of 10 in dis here thread.
 
2011-11-04 12:06:16 PM
PS I've already donated to this foundation, if you haven't you should.
 
2011-11-04 12:24:54 PM
Good.
 
2011-11-04 12:46:25 PM
Jenny McCarthy needs to stick to showing us her cooch every 5 years and keeping her whore mouth shut.
 
2011-11-04 12:46:31 PM
Diogenes: The Stealth Hippopotamus: She is no where near as hot as Jenny. There for she is wrong

We should try and convince her that fake tits give you Alzheimer's. your kids autism!
 
2011-11-04 12:46:43 PM
How does Jim Carey stick his dick in that kind of crazy every night?
 
2011-11-04 12:47:33 PM
Pics of Jenny McCarthy or GTFO.
 
2011-11-04 12:47:45 PM
While it won't do anything to the true believers, maybe we can staunch the flow of on the fence parents to the anti-vax darkside before we experience too much disease and death.
 
2011-11-04 12:47:53 PM
I hope Allison is eventually revealed to be a pharma rep for a big biotech... just for the lulz

/not really
//lulz aint that great
 
2011-11-04 12:50:14 PM
Alright, so that was a long article full of really big words and not enough pictures of boobs. Can someone TLDR condense that biatch down for me?

From what I gather, it reads that some random lady decided to quit her Autism research job because she didn't want to waste money on re-researching the autism/vaccine link. Yet, after she quits - she founds this ASF thing which appears to be researching the autism/vaccine link (to further discredit it)?
 
2011-11-04 12:50:53 PM
SoCalSurfer: How does Jim Carey stick his dick in that kind of crazy every night?

He doesn't anymore.
 
2011-11-04 12:51:15 PM
Jake Havechek: Jenny McCarthy needs to stick to showing us her cooch every 5 years...

The Stealth Hippopotamus: She is no where near as hot as Jenny

I find these terms and use of words confusing and politely suggest that visual aids be contributed before any concrete judgements be made.
 
2011-11-04 12:51:50 PM
SoCalSurfer: How does Jim Carey stick his dick in that kind of crazy every night?

He doesn't. He ended it over a year ago (I think about the time she started flapping her mouth and not her vaj).
 
2011-11-04 12:52:55 PM
Akbar the Trappiste Monk: Pics of Jenny McCarthy or GTFO.

THIS
 
2011-11-04 12:53:21 PM
SoCalSurfer: How does Jim Carey stick his dick in that kind of crazy every night?

I thought they broke up?
 
2011-11-04 12:54:06 PM
God Is My Co-Pirate: This quote, from an anti-vax parent, made me all stabby:

It is important not to tell other parents you know better than they do about their child's autism.


I hope the lady who says that treats her doctor's health advice with the same high regard.

I'd like to add the beginning of the quote:

However, Alison doesn't live my life, doesn't know what caused my son's autism and wasn't with me the night he had a febrile seizure or the day he stopped talking.

WTF logic is that? You were there, so it was vaccines? I was there when my sister was first hospitalized after fainting, I guess that means her terminal disease was caused by you being a stupid biatch. I said it. I was there. That means its true.
 
2011-11-04 12:54:27 PM
SoCalSurfer: How does Jim Carey stick his dick in that kind of crazy every night?

Because this was his other option:

biographyzone.com
 
2011-11-04 12:54:32 PM
...and she's a red head!

www.aafp.org
 
2011-11-04 12:55:31 PM
NuttierThanEver: Sybarite: After years of public education it's almost unfathomable that fear of autism is still one of the top reasons parents don't get their kids vaccinated. Link How does a discredited study by one researcher gain such long-lasting traction?

The saw reason that their are truthers and climate change deniers, a severe lack of critical thinking skills reinforced by the echo of ignorant voices elevated to places of prominence by the media that in previous times would be ignored. Unfortunately the 24 hour news cycle needs filler and controversy sells.


Interestingly, the research on that is kind of mixed. Poor critical thinking abilities may only account for a small percentage of the variance. More research these days is finding evidence to suggest it's an entirely different mode of thinking that is responsible for those kinds of anti-scientific, pseudoscientific, or conspiracy beliefs that tend to be rather immune to rational persuasion (e.g. facts, evidence, data). Epstein calls it experiential thinking, Lindemann calls it intuitive thinking and they are contrasted with rational/analytic thinking styles. The former (experiential/intuitive) is evolutionarily older and more easily entrenches beliefs based on operant conditioning, observation, or vicarious learning. The latter is evolutionarily more recent and allows for beliefs that can be changed in light of contradictory evidence. People who score high on scales of experiential thinking tend to hold more of those kinds of irrational beliefs (e.g. endorse more paranormal, religious, and pseudoscientific beliefs) even if they also would score high on scales of rational/analytic thinking (e.g. those critical thinking skills).
 
2011-11-04 12:55:40 PM
ItsMyNameYouCantHaveIt: SoCalSurfer: How does Jim Carey stick his dick in that kind of crazy every night?

I thought they broke up?


"STOP FLOUTING PEER-REVIEWED MEDICAL RESEARCH, ASSHOLE!"
 
2011-11-04 12:55:43 PM
I wonder if Jenny even imagined she would become a symbol for total tard when she started looking for reasons her crotch fruit came out bruised.
 
2011-11-04 12:55:51 PM
RoosterCogburn: Alright, so that was a long article full of really big words and not enough pictures of boobs. Can someone TLDR condense that biatch down for me?

From what I gather, it reads that some random lady decided to quit her Autism research job because she didn't want to waste money on re-researching the autism/vaccine link. Yet, after she quits - she founds this ASF thing which appears to be researching the autism/vaccine link (to further discredit it)?


Autism Speaks seems to be researching the link with intent to find the link. It taints their research and grant decisions.
 
2011-11-04 12:58:12 PM
Sybarite: After years of public education it's almost unfathomable that fear of autism is still one of the top reasons parents don't get their kids vaccinated. Link How does a discredited study by one researcher gain such long-lasting traction?

Because it gives parents something to blame. More to the point, it clears them of blame.
 
2011-11-04 12:59:54 PM
I would have named it the Jenny You Ignorant Slut Foundation.
 
2011-11-04 01:00:23 PM
Cletus C.: I wonder if Jenny even imagined she would become a symbol for total tard when she started looking for reasons her crotch fruit came out bruised.

Your newsletter, I should like to subscribe to it.
 
2011-11-04 01:01:10 PM
I was hoping that that was the actual name of the foundation.
 
2011-11-04 01:02:25 PM
thurstonxhowell: WTF logic is that? You were there, so it was vaccines?

Now hold on a minute here. I rather like that line of argument. Just think of the possibilities!

"The Rangers losing the World Series was obviously Obama's fault. You can't argue with me, I was there and say so!'"

I could never lose an argument again, regardless boring old reality!
 
2011-11-04 01:03:49 PM
So how do you get autism anyway?
 
2011-11-04 01:03:50 PM
So a lady with a journalism degree disagrees with Jenny McCarthy. That does not make her any more competent to address the issue than Jenny. Let's let the actual researchers carry the conversation.
 
2011-11-04 01:04:03 PM
I came to find out this chick I made out with at a party is an anti-vaxxer. She is a nanny for quite a few autistic kids, and won't listed to reason. She just KNOWS because she works with them. It's sad really cause she was pretty hot.
 
2011-11-04 01:04:16 PM
meat0918: RoosterCogburn: Alright, so that was a long article full of really big words and not enough pictures of boobs. Can someone TLDR condense that biatch down for me?

From what I gather, it reads that some random lady decided to quit her Autism research job because she didn't want to waste money on re-researching the autism/vaccine link. Yet, after she quits - she founds this ASF thing which appears to be researching the autism/vaccine link (to further discredit it)?

Autism Speaks seems to be researching the link with intent to find the link. It taints their research and grant decisions.


Autism Speaks occupies the same mental space as the loads of Cancer research non-profits. Their goals might be laudable, but so much money is wasted, and so much interference that it might be considered a zero profit to advancing research.
 
2011-11-04 01:09:11 PM
doubled99: So how do you get autism anyway?

Short answer? Nobody knows.

Long Answer: There's a lot of things. It ranges from the Age of the Father (Wierd, huh?), to gene duplication on one of three of the chromosomes, to problems with development in the spinal cord.

There are decent, and I can't stress decent enough, prediction models. Nothing really solid yet.

Problem is that it's more of a range rather than a 'You have it or you don't', which really fuddles with any genetic studies. If it was a matter of Binary states, the question would have been solved a while ago. As it stands now, it's an issue of the disease not being defined well enough to nail down, and the geneticist throwing up their hands and doing the best they can with what they're given from psychology.
 
2011-11-04 01:10:08 PM
Sybarite: How does a discredited study by one researcher gain such long-lasting traction?

Simple.

People want someone to blame for their autistic kids.
 
2011-11-04 01:12:00 PM
Diogenes: What's the going derp these days, since they stopped using Thimerisol back in 2001. Surely autism rates haven't decreased since then. Where are the anti-vax goalposts now?

Misdiagnosis, lack of spankings.
 
2011-11-04 01:12:42 PM
 
2011-11-04 01:12:59 PM
ItsMyNameYouCantHaveIt: SoCalSurfer: How does Jim Carey stick his dick in that kind of crazy every night?

I thought they broke up?


Dearest you,

While we ALL eagerly await your amazing ability to tell us something you know the answer to like that kid in grade two who would hold up their waving arm with their other arm whilst saying "ooh ooh pick me teacher!", you can deprive us of this info long enough to find out if several cheaty meanies managed to get here before you were able to do so before spewing without thinking.

We'll still know how special you are.

/gold star!
 
2011-11-04 01:14:53 PM

Pants full of macaroni!!


I was hoping that that was the actual name of the foundation.


Sadly (?), I was too. It gets right to the point and readers know what the organization's mission is.
 
2011-11-04 01:16:30 PM
Who me?

i2.listal.com
 
2011-11-04 01:16:33 PM
Loucifer: ...and she's a red head!

[www.aafp.org image 250x277]


Ugh, looks like Kathy Griffin after her face was on fire and it was put out with golf cleats.
 
2011-11-04 01:17:06 PM
Kinek 2011-11-04 01:09:11 PM

doubled99: So how do you get autism anyway?

Short answer? Nobody knows.

Long Answer: There's a lot of things. It ranges from the Age of the Father (Wierd, huh?), to gene duplication on one of three of the chromosomes, to problems with development in the spinal cord.

There are decent, and I can't stress decent enough, prediction models. Nothing really solid yet.

Problem is that it's more of a range rather than a 'You have it or you don't', which really fuddles with any genetic studies. If it was a matter of Binary states, the question would have been solved a while ago. As it stands now, it's an issue of the disease not being defined well enough to nail down, and the geneticist throwing up their hands and doing the best they can with what they're given from psychology.




and why are almost all of them white and/or middle class?
 
2011-11-04 01:17:39 PM
Queensowntalia: thurstonxhowell: WTF logic is that? You were there, so it was vaccines?

Now hold on a minute here. I rather like that line of argument. Just think of the possibilities!

"The Rangers losing the World Series was obviously Obama's fault. You can't argue with me, I was there and say so!'"

I could never lose an argument again, regardless boring old reality!


Parents are automatically right about matters regarding their children anyway, present or not..."I'm his mother"...
 
2011-11-04 01:17:42 PM
doubled99: So how do you get autism anyway?

Having dumb ass parents.

or

you sneak up on it.

Either way. 8)
 
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