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Xai
2011-11-04 09:55:26 AM
and 0 terrorists every year.
 
2011-11-04 09:56:00 AM
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"Touch my dick and ill fark you up!"
 
2011-11-04 09:57:53 AM
clown's guns?
 
2011-11-04 09:58:11 AM
And how many do they miss? (Probably far more than "four or five")
 
2011-11-04 10:00:04 AM
I keep reading about all these new devices that can read our thoughts. So when are we going to deploy those in airports to detect terrorists just by their thoughts alone?
 
2011-11-04 10:01:11 AM
"Yesterday we found six, including one at ... Bradley (airport in Connecticut) -- a loaded gun with seven rounds in it, in a checked bag that (a passenger) was trying to get through," Administrator John Pistole said.

If the gun's in a checked bag and not a carry-on, what exactly is the problem?
 
2011-11-04 10:01:41 AM
Slaves2Darkness: I keep reading about all these new devices that can read our thoughts. So when are we going to deploy those in airports to detect terrorists just by their thoughts alone?


Aw you are safer if you are one, they never finddddd youuuuuuu.

Pothead, on the other hand...they'll kill you - to make the world safer.
 
2011-11-04 10:02:23 AM
In the entire country? Including CHECKED bags? *yawn*
 
2011-11-04 10:03:54 AM
Is this number more, less, or the same average as prior to the DHS/TSA Morons taking over?

A forgotten pistole is not prima facie a terrurist plot except when using TSA newspeak
 
2011-11-04 10:04:54 AM
Xai: and 0 terrorists every year.



Yes, the number is zero, naive 'tard monkey.
 
2011-11-04 10:05:06 AM
MrPerfectSU: "Yesterday we found six, including one at ... Bradley (airport in Connecticut) -- a loaded gun with seven rounds in it, in a checked bag that (a passenger) was trying to get through," Administrator John Pistole said.

If the gun's in a checked bag and not a carry-on, what exactly is the problem?


I don't trust him anyway, he's got a fake name: John Pistole? I mean, you know he just named himself for the article. Why doesn't he just call himself "Howitzer Explosion-guy".
 
2011-11-04 10:05:20 AM
They keep finding guns in bags. I'd like to see how many they found as a direct result of body scans, and I'd especially like to see those numbers compared to those previously found by metal detectors.
 
2011-11-04 10:06:21 AM
Unless you are a soldier going to Iraq or Afghanistan, then there is no imaginable reason for you to have a gun on a plane. What kind of paranoid, douche-knocking redneck would you have to be to drag a firearm along with you on your trip to Disney World? I think their should be a minimum, mandatory penalty of 1 year in jail and a $25k fine for even bringing a gun into an airport, checked or unchecked. It's like I'm walking amongst a bunch of simian cowboys... sigh...
 
2011-11-04 10:06:34 AM
MrPerfectSU: "Yesterday we found six, including one at ... Bradley (airport in Connecticut) -- a loaded gun with seven rounds in it, in a checked bag that (a passenger) was trying to get through," Administrator John Pistole said.

If the gun's in a checked bag and not a carry-on, what exactly is the problem?


Gotta declare it and have it unloaded.

Of course when you walk up the counter and say "I'd like to declare my firearm" you end up the clerk calling the cops because OMG you have a gun.

/fark you panicky Delta clerks
 
2011-11-04 10:06:51 AM
And how many of those people were planning on hijacking the plane? Please.

Four or five a day, nationwide? Out of how many passengers flying per day? That's well below the dumbshiat threshold.

No, TSA, we're not impressed with how many guns you confiscate, nor how many pocketknives, nail clippers, 3.5oz bottles of shampoo, etc... We might be impressed if you had managed to stop the Shoe Bomber or the Underpants Bomber. But you didn't, did you?
 
2011-11-04 10:07:11 AM
But in one recent case, a passenger at Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport tried to board a plane with two pistols, three ammunition magazines, eight knives and a hand saw in a carry-on bag, the TSA said. That passenger was arrested by local law enforcement.

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2011-11-04 10:07:30 AM
Forget liquids over 6 ounces or another asinine things like that, but how are people so stupid to think they can bring a loaded gun into an airport still?
 
2011-11-04 10:07:33 AM
MrPerfectSU: "Yesterday we found six, including one at ... Bradley (airport in Connecticut) -- a loaded gun with seven rounds in it, in a checked bag that (a passenger) was trying to get through," Administrator John Pistole said.

If the gun's in a checked bag and not a carry-on, what exactly is the problem?


It has to be unloaded, locked, declared... Pretty much the guy's looking at a fine for not following the proper procedure.
 
2011-11-04 10:07:36 AM
It's amazing. They catch lots of guns in the real world, but when actually tested by undercover testers, they fail every single time.

Maybe there's something wrong with the way testers are testing.
 
2011-11-04 10:08:36 AM
MrPerfectSU: "Yesterday we found six, including one at ... Bradley (airport in Connecticut) -- a loaded gun with seven rounds in it, in a checked bag that (a passenger) was trying to get through," Administrator John Pistole said.

If the gun's in a checked bag and not a carry-on, what exactly is the problem?


All guns in checked luggage have to be unloaded.
 
2011-11-04 10:08:37 AM
I don't care if they find a .30 cal browning mg in checked luggage. If it's not a threat to safety, they shouldn't care.

TSA should also be barred from reporting anything they find in searches that are not weapons or explosives.

Mission creep wastes money.
 
2011-11-04 10:09:21 AM
And how many of these guns got up and shot people all by themselves? None, terrorists caught, none. Tsa is a waste of money.
 
2011-11-04 10:09:57 AM
spentmiles: Unless you are a soldier going to Iraq or Afghanistan, then there is no imaginable reason for you to have a gun on a plane. What kind of paranoid, douche-knocking redneck would you have to be to drag a firearm along with you on your trip to Disney World? I think their should be a minimum, mandatory penalty of 1 year in jail and a $25k fine for even bringing a gun into an airport, checked or unchecked. It's like I'm walking amongst a bunch of simian cowboys... sigh...

Are you an idiot? Or a troll?
 
2011-11-04 10:10:34 AM
spentmiles: Unless you are a soldier going to Iraq or Afghanistan, then there is no imaginable reason for you to have a gun on a plane. What kind of paranoid, douche-knocking redneck would you have to be to drag a firearm along with you on your trip to Disney World? I think their should be a minimum, mandatory penalty of 1 year in jail and a $25k fine for even bringing a gun into an airport, checked or unchecked. It's like I'm walking amongst a bunch of simian cowboys... sigh...

So glad I have you favorited as "troll", lets me know immediately to just gloss over whatever you say.
 
2011-11-04 10:10:44 AM
Ed Grubermann: And how many of those people were planning on hijacking the plane? Please.

Four or five a day, nationwide? Out of how many passengers flying per day? That's well below the dumbshiat threshold.

No, TSA, we're not impressed with how many guns you confiscate, nor how many pocketknives, nail clippers, 3.5oz bottles of shampoo, etc... We might be impressed if you had managed to stop the Shoe Bomber or the Underpants Bomber. But you didn't, did you?


At the time, it was not standard practice to check peoples shoes or underwear. Kinda like how they didn't used to sniff for bombs till someone sneaked one in their luggage. Or drugs. Or guns.

As for the article, you can indeed check a firearm. It just can't be loaded, and has to be declared before hand. hunters do it all the time.
 
2011-11-04 10:10:48 AM
Ed Grubermann: MrPerfectSU: "Yesterday we found six, including one at ... Bradley (airport in Connecticut) -- a loaded gun with seven rounds in it, in a checked bag that (a passenger) was trying to get through," Administrator John Pistole said.

If the gun's in a checked bag and not a carry-on, what exactly is the problem?

All guns in checked luggage have to be unloaded.


That I agree with.
 
2011-11-04 10:11:33 AM
AverageAmericanGuy: It's amazing. They catch lots of guns in the real world, but when actually tested by undercover testers, they fail every single time.

Maybe there's something wrong with the way testers are testing.


Or the testers are actually *trying* to sneak the gun aboard and the people who are caught are your average buck toothed yokel who doesn't even realize what he's doing.
 
2011-11-04 10:13:56 AM
chaddsfarkprefect: Xai: and 0 terrorists every year.



Yes, the number is zero, naive 'tard monkey.


If he's talking about the number of terrorists that have actually been discovered and caught by the TSA, then yes the number is a big fat 0 (I won't call you a naive 'tard monkey though).

Airplane passengers have stopped more terrorist attacks than that entire organization.
 
2011-11-04 10:13:59 AM
TheWizard: spentmiles: Unless you are a soldier going to Iraq or Afghanistan, then there is no imaginable reason for you to have a gun on a plane. What kind of paranoid, douche-knocking redneck would you have to be to drag a firearm along with you on your trip to Disney World? I think their should be a minimum, mandatory penalty of 1 year in jail and a $25k fine for even bringing a gun into an airport, checked or unchecked. It's like I'm walking amongst a bunch of simian cowboys... sigh...

Are you an idiot? Or a troll?


Normally he's a fairly amusing troll. This one definitely isn't his best work though.
 
2011-11-04 10:14:06 AM
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Approves
 
2011-11-04 10:16:22 AM
Ed Grubermann: And how many of those people were planning on hijacking the plane? Please.

Four or five a day, nationwide? Out of how many passengers flying per day? That's well below the dumbshiat threshold.

No, TSA, we're not impressed with how many guns you confiscate, nor how many pocketknives, nail clippers, 3.5oz bottles of shampoo, etc... We might be impressed if you had managed to stop the Shoe Bomber or the Underpants Bomber. But you didn't, did you?


The TSA does not have control on boarding procedures for flights departing from overseas airports like in those two cases.

/or was this a "that's the joke" post?
 
2011-11-04 10:17:35 AM
ha-ha-guy: TheWizard: spentmiles: Unless you are a soldier going to Iraq or Afghanistan, then there is no imaginable reason for you to have a gun on a plane. What kind of paranoid, douche-knocking redneck would you have to be to drag a firearm along with you on your trip to Disney World? I think their should be a minimum, mandatory penalty of 1 year in jail and a $25k fine for even bringing a gun into an airport, checked or unchecked. It's like I'm walking amongst a bunch of simian cowboys... sigh...

Are you an idiot? Or a troll?

Normally he's a fairly amusing troll. This one definitely isn't his best work though.


Ehhh you gotta give him a little credit, he did try to soften the trolliness with the "unless you're a soldier" line. An inexperienced troll would've included the military in that blanket statement.
 
2011-11-04 10:17:39 AM
so do teams charter the whole plane for themselves or do they share with us common folk? if they charter the plane themselves do they still have to go thru security?

and its weird with all of them flying around that one hasn't crashed yet.
 
2011-11-04 10:17:42 AM
ha-ha-guy: MrPerfectSU: "Yesterday we found six, including one at ... Bradley (airport in Connecticut) -- a loaded gun with seven rounds in it, in a checked bag that (a passenger) was trying to get through," Administrator John Pistole said.

If the gun's in a checked bag and not a carry-on, what exactly is the problem?

Gotta declare it and have it unloaded.

Of course when you walk up the counter and say "I'd like to declare my firearm" you end up the clerk calling the cops because OMG you have a gun.

/fark you panicky Delta clerks


Don't the airlines screen the checked bags for guns? I mean I've seen TSA guys around there, but I usually see a contracted employee (not typically a United/Delta/Continental employee) checking the bags and sending them through the scanner.
 
2011-11-04 10:17:47 AM
spentmiles: Unless you are a soldier going to Iraq or Afghanistan, then there is no imaginable reason for you to have a gun on a plane. What kind of paranoid, douche-knocking redneck would you have to be to drag a firearm along with you on your trip to Disney World?

I'm visiting family in Kentucky this year near Thanksgiving and will be going deer hunting while there. EABOD.
 
2011-11-04 10:17:58 AM
Aw, come on. Who amongst us has not found themselves at a court house, day care, or strip club and suddenly realize we are still packing?
 
2011-11-04 10:18:05 AM
spentmiles: Unless you are a soldier going to Iraq or Afghanistan, then there is no imaginable reason for you to have a gun on a plane. What kind of paranoid, douche-knocking redneck would you have to be to drag a firearm along with you on your trip to Disney World? I think their should be a minimum, mandatory penalty of 1 year in jail and a $25k fine for even bringing a gun into an airport, checked or unchecked. It's like I'm walking amongst a bunch of simian cowboys... sigh...

Interesting fact. I never knew that all planes are flying off to Disney World.
 
2011-11-04 10:20:11 AM
AntiNorm: And how many do they miss? (Probably far more than "four or five")

I think the real question is "how many guns are stolen by TSA baggage handlers?"
 
2011-11-04 10:22:45 AM
They find four or five guns a day? Clearly, then, the danger of bringing firearms onto airplanes is drastically overstated, since gun violence was never really a problem before the TSA was invented and started discovering all the guns flying around.
 
2011-11-04 10:23:37 AM
scottydoesntknow: chaddsfarkprefect: Xai: and 0 terrorists every year.



Yes, the number is zero, naive 'tard monkey.

If he's talking about the number of terrorists that have actually been discovered and caught by the TSA, then yes the number is a big fat 0 (I won't call you a naive 'tard monkey though).

Airplane passengers have stopped more terrorist attacks than that entire organization.




Your first point is false. The second point may have to do with mathematics and patriotism.
 
2011-11-04 10:24:03 AM
chaddsfarkprefect: Xai: and 0 terrorists every year.



Yes, the number is zero, naive 'tard monkey.


Wow. You're a special one.
 
2011-11-04 10:24:04 AM
spentmiles: Unless you are a soldier going to Iraq or Afghanistan, then there is no imaginable reason for you to have a gun on a plane. What kind of paranoid, douche-knocking redneck would you have to be to drag a firearm along with you on your trip to Disney World? I think their should be a minimum, mandatory penalty of 1 year in jail and a $25k fine for even bringing a gun into an airport, checked or unchecked. It's like I'm walking amongst a bunch of simian cowboys... sigh...

How about my trip from St. Louis to Anchorage to then fly out to the bush to do some hunting? Should I leave my guns behind then? You are dipshiat who does not realize that some of us fly with guns.

Of course the tards who get their guns taken away and/or arrested are the ones who just throw them in any old bag and declare it good. To fly with guns you must have a hard container, it must be locked in such a way to prevent access, it must be unloaded, you must declare it at check in, and you can't carry black powder or percussion caps.

I've flown with guns, pistols, rifles, and shotguns, a couple of times since 9-11 and as long I followed the rules their were no problems.
 
2011-11-04 10:24:58 AM
Jairzinho: Ed Grubermann: And how many of those people were planning on hijacking the plane? Please.

Four or five a day, nationwide? Out of how many passengers flying per day? That's well below the dumbshiat threshold.

No, TSA, we're not impressed with how many guns you confiscate, nor how many pocketknives, nail clippers, 3.5oz bottles of shampoo, etc... We might be impressed if you had managed to stop the Shoe Bomber or the Underpants Bomber. But you didn't, did you?

The TSA does not have control on boarding procedures for flights departing from overseas airports like in those two cases.

/or was this a "that's the joke" post?


You're joking right?

Link (new window)

TSA Protects Passengers Traveling to the U.S. by:
Inspecting air carrier operations to the U.S.
Assessing security of airports overseas
Flying Air Marshal missions
Ensuring foreign airport compliance with TSA security requirements
Advising foreign governments on transportation security
Training overseas security personnel
Ensuring implementation of international security standards

Reviewing threat mitigation strategies for foreign airports
Working with non-U.S. air carriers to achieve regulatory compliance
Assisting foreign governments to achieve sustainable security capacity
 
2011-11-04 10:26:05 AM
I carry a gun everywhere I go. Big farking deal.
 
2011-11-04 10:29:55 AM
redmid17: Don't the airlines screen the checked bags for guns? I mean I've seen TSA guys around there, but I usually see a contracted employee (not typically a United/Delta/Continental employee) checking the bags and sending them through the scanner.

You have to go to the counter and declare them to the airline (possibly to give them a chance to charge you more). Then you show security the gun is unloaded and in a secured, hard sided container. After that it is tagged and given to the airline to be checked luggage. Can't take it into the cabin, period.

Frontier has the best clerks for guns by far. Likely because they serve a lot of areas that people might take big game rifles to. Other airlines are hit and miss. Oddly enough the Japanese clerks on ANA were very cool with it and more interested in asking me questions about the gun and taking a photo of it than being afraid of it. The girl was all excited to show her parents how Americans really do take guns everywhere.
 
2011-11-04 10:31:48 AM
back in 1963, i'm a babby and my dad made plans to go hunting with his buddies. 4 am, the buddies come by to pick my dad up, but i've got the croup or some such and mom says i'm too sick for him to leave her alone. he says "sorry, guys, have a good time without me."

no sooner do they leave than i get 100% better. dad talks mom into letting him catch a plane to arizona where the hunting party is headed.

he walks up to the ticket agent at LAX and hands over his shotgun case. the agent takes it out, LOOKS down the barrel and asks "is it unloaded?" dad says "you better HOPE it is, the way you're holding it!" ticket agent hands it back and tells dad to give it to the pilot when he gets on the plane.

this USED to be a free country.

/csb
 
2011-11-04 10:34:24 AM
chaddsfarkprefect: scottydoesntknow: chaddsfarkprefect: Xai: and 0 terrorists every year.



Yes, the number is zero, naive 'tard monkey.

If he's talking about the number of terrorists that have actually been discovered and caught by the TSA, then yes the number is a big fat 0 (I won't call you a naive 'tard monkey though).

Airplane passengers have stopped more terrorist attacks than that entire organization.



Your first point is false. The second point may have to do with mathematics and patriotism.


If you have something to back up your assertion, then by all means post it. But just saying it's false does not make it false.
 
2011-11-04 10:36:11 AM
farkwell: back in 1963, i'm a babby and my dad made plans to go hunting with his buddies. 4 am, the buddies come by to pick my dad up, but i've got the croup or some such and mom says i'm too sick for him to leave her alone. he says "sorry, guys, have a good time without me."

no sooner do they leave than i get 100% better. dad talks mom into letting him catch a plane to arizona where the hunting party is headed.

he walks up to the ticket agent at LAX and hands over his shotgun case. the agent takes it out, LOOKS down the barrel and asks "is it unloaded?" dad says "you better HOPE it is, the way you're holding it!" ticket agent hands it back and tells dad to give it to the pilot when he gets on the plane.

this USED to be a free country.

/csb


Yep... that is how I gauge freedom.
 
2011-11-04 10:37:32 AM
redmid17: Jairzinho: Ed Grubermann: And how many of those people were planning on hijacking the plane? Please.

Four or five a day, nationwide? Out of how many passengers flying per day? That's well below the dumbshiat threshold.

No, TSA, we're not impressed with how many guns you confiscate, nor how many pocketknives, nail clippers, 3.5oz bottles of shampoo, etc... We might be impressed if you had managed to stop the Shoe Bomber or the Underpants Bomber. But you didn't, did you?

The TSA does not have control on boarding procedures for flights departing from overseas airports like in those two cases.

/or was this a "that's the joke" post?

You're joking right?

Link (new window)

TSA Protects Passengers Traveling to the U.S. by:
Inspecting air carrier operations to the U.S.
Assessing security of airports overseas
Flying Air Marshal missions
Ensuring foreign airport compliance with TSA security requirements
Advising foreign governments on transportation security
Training overseas security personnel
Ensuring implementation of international security standards
Reviewing threat mitigation strategies for foreign airports
Working with non-U.S. air carriers to achieve regulatory compliance
Assisting foreign governments to achieve sustainable security capacity


All that assistance, guidance, training, set of protocols and procedures is true but they don't man the security check points at those airports, do they?
 
2011-11-04 10:39:06 AM
More than 150,000 people have gone through the "expanded" behavior detection at Boston Logan International Airport, Pistole said.

"We've had probably a dozen or so people who were referred to law enforcement because of their response," he said. "And it turned out, some of these individuals had outstanding warrants for them. Some were illegal immigrants."

Translation: We screened 150,000 people, and we found less than 12 illegal immigrants, and less than 12 people with outstanding warrants.

Since there US has 15 million illegal immigrants in a country of 3007 million people, you should expect to find about 7,500 illegal immigrants in a random sample of 150,000 people. The TSA managed to find somewhere between 1 and 12. Their program probably missed about 99.9% if the illegal immigrants that passed by.

The same holds true for outstanding arrest warrants, which number in the millions in the US. If you randomly sampled 150,000 people, you would find thousands with outstanding warrants. Their program probably missed about 99.7% of the outstanding warrants.

In other words, they're bragging about an abysmal failure. Go TSA!
 
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