Human sexuality sure is weird!

jaylectricity: Grables'Daughter: Peter von Nostrand: Because they feel they can go do the same. Which means they get some strange. That's really what it's all about, strange

I would take your word "strange" and replace it with "exciting" or "new".

And that's why men stop talking when you're around.

Exciting and new, the Love Boat, come aboard, we're expecting you. Love, life's sweetest reward/ Let it flow, it floats back to you.

The Love Boat soon will be making another run/ The Love Boat promises something for everyone/ Set a course for adventure,/ Your mind on a new romance

BKITU: Grables'Daughter: Peter von Nostrand: Because they feel they can go do the same. Which means they get some strange. That's really what it's all about, strange

I would take your word "strange" and replace it with "exciting" or "new".

THE LOOOOOOOOVE BOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAT!

I don't fantasize about MY wife cheating. I fantasize about YOUR wife cheating... not, not yours, yours.

unyon: and the sex later is awesome

As long as you don't mind her fantasizing that your were one of the young men hitting on her and the idea of having sex with the same " fat, balding, possibly drunk dude" isn't a turn on. ;)

I can't say I fully understand it, but then again my husband and I are non-monogamous so it's a moot point.

I'm still reading this (pops), so if it has any insight into cuckoldery in terms of modern sexuality I haven't read it yet. Very, very interesting book.

Woman like getting sploogy. They say they don't,,, but they do. Some guys like that. That is all.

Troublesome Strumpet: I can't say I fully understand it, but then again my husband and I are non-monogamous so it's a moot point.

Does Mr. Strumpet know this?

/how YOU doin'?
//EIP

Really, I blame Obama for this.

This thread scares me.

But... Let me just say. When a relationship goes on for a very long time some of the passion goes away. Think about the first time you had sex with a girl and how worked up she got, then the 10th, then the 20th, then the 30th... She calms down, she gets quiet, the sex gets quiet.

Then some dude bangs your wife. Now she's excited again. And she's showing it - her skin's flushing, she's screaming, sweating, grabbing sheets, biting her lip, forcing her face down into the mattress. She's giving off sounds and sights and smells you haven't seen since the beginning of the relationship. Not only do you not have your face shoved into her shoulder or staring at the back of your head, you're seeing the entirety of your female and all the biological signs she's giving off.

And here's what happens on the guys end, and believe you me, this is all biological. You're wife is now giving off the signs of being ready to mate. She's no longer that person you wake up next to share bills with and occasionally have deep meaningful discussions with; now she's a sweating screaming red baboon's ass ready to take seed.

*deep breath*

Thusly is the male's body affected by these signs and goes into a mating reflex of it's own. Which is exciting for the male. It's not really that difficult, it's all biology.

By the way, some dude's plowing your wife, you sick fark. Hit him already, take your woman back. Or go play some video games or cry to porn - y'know, whatever floats your boat. o_O

gerbilpox: Troublesome Strumpet: I can't say I fully understand it, but then again my husband and I are non-monogamous so it's a moot point.

Does Mr. Strumpet know this?

/how YOU doin'?
//EIP

Yes, just fine, and no thanks. My pictures would shatter your monitor right now and I don't wanna have to pay for that.

Getting cheated on sucks more then anything.

Oh...I thought it was going to be about why messing around with other guys' girlfriends is a turn-on, especially when they seduce you. A guy who wants his wife to cheat on him is a loser, but maybe not as dangerous as the one who wants to kill you.

SoxSweepAgain: Don't understand how anyone would get off on their girlfriend/wife/boyfriend/husband cheating on them... weird.

Though, it's not "cheating" if you are allowing/wanting it to happen. One of the reasons getting cheated on sucks for me people is the breach of trust. If you're in an open relationship no trust is broken when they sleep with someone else.

/ different strokes
// though I'm with you, I'm a monogamous kind of person

jingks: SoxSweepAgain: Don't understand how anyone would get off on their girlfriend/wife/boyfriend/husband cheating on them... weird.

Though, it's not "cheating" if you are allowing/wanting it to happen. One of the reasons getting cheated on sucks for me people is the breach of trust. If you're in an open relationship no trust is broken when they sleep with someone else.

/ different strokes
// though I'm with you, I'm a monogamous kind of person

True. But then again, who would make a better wingman than a girl who knows you?

SoxSweepAgain: Cheaters suck. Getting cheated upon sucks, yada yada.

/Don't understand how anyone would get off on their girlfriend/wife/boyfriend/husband cheating on them... weird.

Reminds me of a story. Pr0n director Paul Thomas was quoted as saying that at swingers' parties, he would never fark a woman whose husband asked him to do it. "'You're totally OK with it?' PT would ask the man. 'Oh yeah,' the man would say. 'Fark her! I want to watch!' 'No way, Man,' PT would say. 'I'm not gonna do it unless you're in the other room, sobbing.'"

/csb

SoxSweepAgain: Cheaters suck. Getting cheated upon sucks, yada yada.

/Don't understand how anyone would get off on their girlfriend/wife/boyfriend/husband cheating on them... weird.

Cheating = Dishonesty
Non-monogamy = Honesty

There is a difference. To quote Dan Savage on the whole Arnold Schwarzenegger fiasco, "Arnold wasn't in a nonmonogamous relationship. He was in a monogamous relationship. He failed at monogamy; he didn't succeed at nonmonogamy." (pops)

Man, evolutionary psychology is such a joke. Let's come up with some theory for behavior x, and it must be true just because it appeals to the theory of evolution.

Another possible reason that guys get turned on that another man might want to tap their S.O.? Narcissism. The thought that your wife/girlfriend is good looking enough for another man to envy is, strangely enough, a validation of the man's self worth.

Why cheating turns us on

Because you gained weight.

On an emotional/relationship level, cheating obviously sucks, but on a purely sexual level it is pretty arousing. My ex was/is kind of a slut and it used to make me so horny to think about her farking some random dude at a party.

Troublesome Strumpet: gerbilpox: Troublesome Strumpet: I can't say I fully understand it, but then again my husband and I are non-monogamous so it's a moot point.

Does Mr. Strumpet know this?

/how YOU doin'?
//EIP

Yes, just fine, and no thanks. My pictures would shatter your monitor right now and I don't wanna have to pay for that.

I have an old laptop that has a cracked screen that needs to be replace. I can assure you that any images that I would view would not put me out of any money.

IrishFarmer: Man, evolutionary psychology is such a joke. Let's come up with some theory for behavior x, and it must be true just because it appeals to the theory of evolution.

Another possible reason that guys get turned on that another man might want to tap their S.O.? Narcissism. The thought that your wife/girlfriend is good looking enough for another man to envy is, strangely enough, a validation of the man's self worth.

I think the most common reason is masochism. You got used to the feeling of being bullied early in life, and now you want it some more.

Cheating is a betrayal, only imbeciles thing that is a turn on.
Reap what you sow.

Latent homosexual tendencies

at least that's what it was for my ex...

/blech!

"What turns you on doesn't turn me on! Thus you are wrong. You're sick! You're sick! What's wrong with you?"

/article checks out

Protip: It's not cheating if you both think it's a dandy idea. Been in a relationship where we tried this - there's NOTHING else I've done so far hotter than sloppy seconds. It's emotionally demanding on the woman, though - she needs some pretty stone cold cojones to be able to pull it off without feeling that you're just humoring her terrible desires and secretly hate yourself and have no self esteem.

Would do it again. Hell, there's not much I've done that I wouldn't do again...

I'm predicting that some of you won't tell the truth in this thread, on either side of the aisle.

Nels: Really, I blame Obama for this.

Naaah. I'd blame Clinton and Kennedy. Both certified (D) horn-dogs.

Made my stomach turn, thinking about it.

I just found out last month that my wife (well, I guess I should be used to saying "ex-wife") was farking some other guy after 15 years of marriage. In doing so she not only broke up our relationship, but also led to her boyfriend endangering his marriage. The idea o someone doing this as a kink just provokes a negative reaction in me.

See, here's the thing about morality. It kind of boils down to "what's good for your children". If you based an entire philosophy on that, you would turn out to be a pretty good person. There's no doubt that children are happier and more successful when they are raised by two parents since birth (gender combo does not seem to have an impact). It's just hard science. I don't need some "god" to tell me right and wrong. I just need to answer "is doing this going to be harmful to my son?". That kept me off the cheating path for 15 years.

I realize that non-monogamy is different than an illicit affair, and no relationship really matters if there aren't kids in the equation, but it just seems like this kind of fantasy is a dangerous alley.

Cuckoldry is for beta males. Like hell I'm letting anyone paw my woman. Would gladly nail yours for a laugh, though.

NTR thread?

gbob23: Made my stomach turn, thinking about it.

I just found out last month that my wife (well, I guess I should be used to saying "ex-wife") was farking some other guy after 15 years of marriage. In doing so she not only broke up our relationship, but also led to her boyfriend endangering his marriage. The idea o someone doing this as a kink just provokes a negative reaction in me.

See, here's the thing about morality. It kind of boils down to "what's good for your children". If you based an entire philosophy on that, you would turn out to be a pretty good person. There's no doubt that children are happier and more successful when they are raised by two parents since birth (gender combo does not seem to have an impact). It's just hard science. I don't need some "god" to tell me right and wrong. I just need to answer "is doing this going to be harmful to my son?". That kept me off the cheating path for 15 years.

I realize that non-monogamy is different than an illicit affair, and no relationship really matters if there aren't kids in the equation, but it just seems like this kind of fantasy is a dangerous alley.

First of all, I am sorry for your situation.

Secondly, morality is almost entirely subjective barring what I consider to be a few naturalist universals (rape, murder are generally frowned upon by the large majority of members of most civilized societies as they are innately harmful -- exceptions always exist and do not necessarily endanger this paradigm). Those of us that do not have children, for example, obviously do not follow your schema. Many, many, many, MANY of those who do also do not.

If you are constantly struggling against cheating in a really torturous way, and not a "damn I would like to hit that, I'll think about it in my spank bank" normal-male-way, you have larger problems in your relationship. It's not normal to be tortured by thoughts of cheating for the duration of your relationship.

/likes to hit on women and is very flirty
//has never, ever cheated and has been in several 4-5 year LTR's.
///sure, you feel like you want to bang some chicks and the feeling is reciprocal, but you gotta draw the line somewhere and just have fun before you get to that point.