Lack of surprise.

I don't mean to be unsympathetic or judgmental here, but if my minister is riding around in limos, I'm going to a new church.

I'm not saying the minister of my church has to renounce worldly goods entirely. But I'm uncomfortable with them living like the richest people on the planet.

I would not want to go to such a church. Especially if they have the gall to ask me for money to support such a lifestyle.

"Anyone who has two tunics should give one to the man who has none."

Look at the birds of the air. They do not sow or reap or store away food in barns. Yet our Heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they? And why do you worry about clothes? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow. They do not toil nor do they spin, yet Solomon in all his splendor was never dressed as beautifully as one of these.

If that is how God clothes the grass of the field which is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, will he not much more clothe you?

Weaver95: shivashakti: I don't mean to be unsympathetic or judgmental here, but if my minister is riding around in limos, I'm going to a new church.

I'm not saying the minister of my church has to renounce worldly goods entirely. But I'm uncomfortable with them living like the richest people on the planet.

I would not want to go to such a church. Especially if they have the gall to ask me for money to support such a lifestyle.

F*ck that. I'm taking God open source. you want to worship at my church, you can do it with as much of a UI as you want, or as little as you'd care for.

This analogy is probably the best I've ever read.

/i hope it's open source too, because I wanna use it

Fark Me To Tears:
Well... if they get free meals, that allows them to divert their limited resources to keeping the limos and chauffeurs... Duh!

Yeah, we should support these folks because they're creating JOBS!

It's stuff like this that just makes the jesus spin in his grave ... you know, the place where the folks who rolled the stone out of the way, carried his body off too, and buried it.

/just trying to fit something in here about loaves and the fishes also, but running out of space, already up to 333 characters, with spaces ... 'k, bye

You cannot cheat an honest man. Believer beware. A fool and his/her money is soon parted. Cast your bread upon the waters and the minister will dive in post-haste to retrieve it. Be not decieved. etc. etc. ad hominim, corpus delecti, eroticus sanctum.....

Shiny things are used to distract you while they take your money. Life is hard when you are a tard.

Fark Me To Tears: Okay, gotcha on the food, subby. But where are the old folks supposed to send their Social Security checks now?

They strain out a gnat and swallow a camel...

I actually thought the "limo" bit was a joke. Can't believe it's not.

Asinine doesn't even come close.

Try "pathologically hypocritical self-delusion"...

shivashakti: I don't mean to be unsympathetic or judgmental here, but if my minister is riding around in limos, I'm going to a new church.

I'm not saying the minister of my church has to renounce worldly goods entirely. But I'm uncomfortable with them living like the richest people on the planet.

I would not want to go to such a church. Especially if they have the gall to ask me for money to support such a lifestyle.

One of my former coworkers was very religious. Her church would buy a new BMW for their pastor every year. When I asked about this she claimed, "If he does not ride around in style then he sets a bad image for the church." When I said that they would be better off buying him a used Honda and using the difference to feed some homeless people she just scoffed at the idea.

The proposed deal with Chapman U. is very ...... interesting, what with the proposed purchase/leaseback deal.

And just how did that place end up bankrupt anyway?

Did they use lousy income projections, or not allow for the decline in church attendance?

Pert: I actually thought the "limo" bit was a joke. Can't believe it's not.

Asinine doesn't even come close.

Try "pathologically hypocritical self-delusion"...

I've been to several churches in my lifetime. The best ones to go to (as far as caring people) are the ones with older model vehicles in the parking lot. If you see lots of big fancy cars, you can bet it is more of a country club.

Shame on these people if they scammed the congegration.

Weaver95: that's awesome. it's like...they really don't understand just how f*cked up they are...I swear, it's almost totally pathological.

/gnarly

arte1953: And just how did that place end up bankrupt anyway? Did they use lousy income projections, or not allow for the decline in church attendance?

My first guess would be "Embezzling."

Bigdogdaddy: I've been to several churches in my lifetime. The best ones to go to (as far as caring people) are the ones with older model vehicles in the parking lot. If you see lots of big fancy cars, you can bet it is more of a country club.

Shame on these people if they scammed the congegration.

The congregation let themselves be scammed.
He actually had the nerve to make special requests about the meals? Some people are more stupid than I thought.

arte1953: The proposed deal with Chapman U. is very ...... interesting, what with the proposed purchase/leaseback deal.

And just how did that place end up bankrupt anyway?

Did they use lousy income projections, or not allow for the decline in church attendance?

How charming. Did you miss the part where they were charged with skimming $10 million from the church's endowment funds? These people are some of the creepiest farks ever and have long been fleecing their flock.

Fluorescent Testicle: My first guess would be "Embezzling."

Now that I've read TFA: Yep. Embezzling.

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Religion: A tool to control others through emotional blackmail and repressed sexuality.

/Or so the actions of religious figures have led me to believe.

hammettman: arte1953: The proposed deal with Chapman U. is very ...... interesting, what with the proposed purchase/leaseback deal.

And just how did that place end up bankrupt anyway?

Did they use lousy income projections, or not allow for the decline in church attendance?

How charming. Did you miss the part where they were charged with skimming $10 million from the church's endowment funds? These people are some of the creepiest farks ever and have long been fleecing their flock.



"Hi guyz, what's going on?"

/Rick Warren... just another money grubbing "minister".

Mock26: shivashakti: I don't mean to be unsympathetic or judgmental here, but if my minister is riding around in limos, I'm going to a new church.

I'm not saying the minister of my church has to renounce worldly goods entirely. But I'm uncomfortable with them living like the richest people on the planet.

I would not want to go to such a church. Especially if they have the gall to ask me for money to support such a lifestyle.

One of my former coworkers was very religious. Her church would buy a new BMW for their pastor every year. When I asked about this she claimed, "If he does not ride around in style then he sets a bad image for the church." When I said that they would be better off buying him a used Honda and using the difference to feed some homeless people she just scoffed at the idea.

The pastor at my mother-in-law's church makes over 150k/year, and gets a free car, and a free townhouse. He was recently upset when his wife died, because the church board gave him a reduction in salary. They felt he no longer had insurance or bills to pay for the deceased. He got married again about a year after he death; the woman is one of those primly dressed churchwomen with the piles and piles of makeup on. I wonder if he married her to get the raise back.

/weirdness all around

JFC! Don't they have meals on wheels where those thieves live? Can't they afford to have someone come in and grocery shop and cook for them? Can't the limo driver do some shopping?

"We didn't want people going to their home because they are very private people,"

Bull Shait. WTF are they hiding? What do they not want people to see?


I surprised that one of the disgruntled parishioners hasn't tried to poison the bastards. Or pissed in one of the low sodium meals to spice it up a little.

You're never too rich to enjoy a free turkey dog.

I'm LOL'ing at all the suckers who donate money to a church, not just that one but all churches. If you want to help someone in need then give 10% of your income to some homeless dude sleeping on the street. If you do that the you know the money is going to the person in need. Why do you need a "good Christian" to distribute the money for you after he skims 50% off the top?

jaylectricity: The biggest injustice in the world is that there isn't an actual hell for these god-peddlers to go to when they die.

QFT.

arte1953: The proposed deal with Chapman U. is very ...... interesting, what with the proposed purchase/leaseback deal.

And just how did that place end up bankrupt anyway?

Did they use lousy income projections, or not allow for the decline in church attendance?

I was more amused by the Roman Catholic offer.....(FTA)

And that's what God expects from his sheep, here at the Greater Ebenezer New Revival Tree of Life lnstitutional Double Rock on the Side of the Road to Jericho Missionary Baptist Church of Zion! Y'all gon' help me! God expects you to do what the Lord wants you to do, like those of you who realize that, that the Lord wants you to give generously into his church, Amen! Don't ask no questions! Don't ask how come, or, or, or why come the pastor have to have him a nice house, humph! Or why come the pastor got to have a nice car, humph! Don't ask, I said, don't ask, I said, don't ask no questions, just give the money...

to the whinning congregation, I say let them eat cake!

I thought the limo thing was a joke. We want your donations, but do not want to have to possibly come in contact with the great unwashed...

People are seriously still going to this church? That should be the next investigative article.

hammettman: How charming. Did you miss the part where they were charged with skimming $10 million from the church's endowment funds? These people are some of the creepiest farks ever and have long been fleecing their flock.

And the difference between these thieves and any other televangelist? These guys got caught. They are all thieves and grifters.

AbbeySomeone: He actually had the nerve to make special requests about the meals? Some people are more stupid than I thought.

Yup, if you lack moral fortitude to make it in politics to get rich, there's always running a church...

Hey, at least they aren't aiding and abetting child molesters, amirite?

I'll say it, so the rest of you don't wreck your karma:

Die, you biatch.

Reduced to Meals on Wheels.....

Oscar_Madisons_cleaning_lady: Reduced to Meals on Wheels.....

Guilt tripped meals in pimped out wheels...

hammettman: arte1953: The proposed deal with Chapman U. is very ...... interesting, what with the proposed purchase/leaseback deal.

And just how did that place end up bankrupt anyway?

Did they use lousy income projections, or not allow for the decline in church attendance?

How charming. Did you miss the part where they were charged with skimming $10 million from the church's endowment funds? These people are some of the creepiest farks ever and have long been fleecing their flock.

Sorry 'bout that; I totally missed that one. I normally don't seek out and follow embezzlement stories, as it's hard on my blood pressure. Now it all makes sense.

There's been some mention lately of declining church membership; some of the faithful wonder why.

My mom tithes every month. She used to send that shiat out to Pat farking Robertson. I convinced her to send it to a local mission running a soup kitchen/food pantry rather than some TV scam artist. I can't believe how many people these guys scam every day....

They have limo drivers but they don't have a cook?