Cliff near Wisconsin power plant collapses


Geez, no last name? There's gotta be more than one guy named Cliff out there.

too many regulations, dammit!

done in two.

How did Norm take the news?

Most cities put what is basically poison right in to most drinking water anyway.

Trackball: Most cities put what is basically poison right in to most drinking water anyway.

Oh, here we go...

Englebert Slaptyback: Cliff near Wisconsin power plant collapses


Geez, no last name? There's gotta be more than one guy named Cliff out there.

Eh, in point of fact, a large study has shown that there is only one true Cliff.

It's a little known fact that Lake Michigan is one of our largest sources of mercury.

That stuff keeps you regular!

Until your asshole hangs out of you like a tube sock.

namegoeshere: Trackball: Most cities put what is basically poison right in to most drinking water anyway.

Oh, here we go...

It's a well-known fact that dihydrogen monoxide is lethal in large quantities.

This is in Eric Cantor's district. Rachel Maddow had a show Tuesday night I think where she mentioned he and the rest of the GOP house members voted to take away the EPA's authority to regulate this coal ash. Worse thing is the industry tries and claims coal ash isn't dangerous. I'd like to see them take a nice swig of water and eat some fish from the area.

Did someone say frothy mix?

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People really drink from there?

another of how the free market works to protect the consumers. clearly none of those consumers will now buy energy, because it contaminated Lake Michigan. no need for regulation, it'll all happen organically

As a resident of Chicago and a drinker of Lake Michigan water, I just changed the filter on my tap and threw up in my mouth a little.

On a completely unrelated note: I was never written up for anything I did in grade school because the principal thought my name was Cliff.

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too many regulations, dammit!

You mean all the regulations that were already in place? Shoring up this wall. Holding back the poison. They did aught to prevent it. Do you not see? So the number of laws governing the place and dumping, pollution and placement thereof has no bearing on the final outcome. We should enact ten times the laws we have now, for surely that will make us safe. Thou knave.

BurnShrike: namegoeshere: Trackball: Most cities put what is basically poison right in to most drinking water anyway.

Oh, here we go...

It's a well-known fact that dihydrogen monoxide is lethal in large quantities.

It's lethal in small quantities when inhaled.

namegoeshere: Trackball: Most cities put what is basically poison right in to most drinking water anyway.

Oh, here we go...

You have to admit, chlorine is pretty toxic.

Hey, at least it wasn't waste from a nuclear plant!

Can you imagine if that slurry, instead of being full of chemicals, had been full of atoms?

Clearly the problem is the partial regulation of the industry. If we entirely deregulated the energy industry would stop looking for loopholes in the regulatory regime and take full and complete responsibility for the outcomes caused by their plants. Hobbes writes that the leviathan can be counted on to take the needs of the country into account, because the selfish needs of the leviathan and the needs of the country are one in the same. We need bigger energy companies with less oversight to force them into a position of responsibility and stewardship.

Ah...the 'industry' lobbied to get our reps to keep the EPA from protecting us...funny how the companies with money have more power than the very people that elect these retards into their positions.

Gotta love how the coal industry says coal ash isn't harmful, how the natural gas industry says fracking isn't harmful, how the oil industry says deep sea drilling isn't harmful, etc etc etc...yet, they all feel this odd need to kick money over to lawmakers to be sure no one ever figures out the truth.

depositing frothy slurry of coal ash--a hearty blend of selenium, lead, mercury and arsenic--into the cool blue waters of Lake Michigan.

Obviously subby doesn't live here.

As someone who grew up near the lake, You do not drink, swim, or eat the fish out of the lake. At least now we have our choice between raw liquid shiat from MMSD dumpings, the hoard of dead alewives, or power plant waste.

/eh what the heck do I know: I don't live close enough to the basin for my city to use lake Michigan water.
//we just pull up sand and radium from the wells.

Hey what's a couple stiffs and deformed kids have to do with record breaking company profits? USA! USA! USA!

Meh....the answer to pollution is dilution...... Lake Michigan just took care of the problem.

Just like the waste coming out of shale wells. If they dumped it all in one place, it would be declared a toxic waste site.
They truck it all over our state and deposit it in landfills (the solids).......so no problem. It's diluted by being spread all over. Lots of truck fuel burned to dilute that waste.

No problemo....

Weaver95: I'm sure Gov. Walker will blame this on the Unions.

He might as well, he blames everything else on them.

/Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos

namegoeshere: Trackball: Most cities put what is basically poison right in to most drinking water anyway.

Oh, here we go...

Should we tell him what they put bottled water through to make it drinkable?

netcentric: Meh....the answer to pollution is dilution...... Lake Michigan just took care of the problem.

Just like the waste coming out of shale wells. If they dumped it all in one place, it would be declared a toxic waste site.

LOL, next you will be telling me that uranium comes from nature

Englebert Slaptyback: Cliff near Wisconsin power plant collapses


Geez, no last name? There's gotta be more than one guy named Cliff out there.

And he was smoochin' wit' my brother!

/And so was Snuffy, Al, Leo, Little Moe, with the gimpy leg, Cheeks, Boney Bob...
//I could go on forever, baby!

New Orleans water to get even yummier, once all that toxic waste makes it's way down the Mississippi.

/Aside from all the sewage and fertilizer plant waste, that New Orleans people drink on a daily basis.
/toilet water is not drinkable, so what you need is electrolytes.

XveryYpettyZ: Clearly the problem is the partial regulation of the industry. If we entirely deregulated the energy industry would stop looking for loopholes in the regulatory regime and take full and complete responsibility for the outcomes caused by their plants. Hobbes writes that the leviathan can be counted on to take the needs of the country into account, because the selfish needs of the leviathan and the needs of the country are one in the same. We need bigger energy companies with less oversight to force them into a position of responsibility and stewardship.

lollywobbles.

Ed Willy: This is in Eric Cantor'sPaul Ryan's district. Rachel Maddow had a show Tuesday night I think where she mentioned he and the rest of the GOP house members voted to take away the EPA's authority to regulate this coal ash. Worse thing is the industry tries and claims coal ash isn't dangerous. I'd like to see them take a nice swig of water and eat some fish from the area.

I confuse them a lot too

I'm not saying this is no problem at all, but from a different article, Clean Harbors, the company hired by We Energies, will deploy 1,500 feet of linear boom on the water to contain the debris and fuel.... Lake Michigan has a surface area of over 22000 square miles. This spill is not only highly localized, but literally a drop in the bucket. Also, the other article says that coal ash was used as fill like 60 years ago. Didn't some of those harmful chemicals break down in the mean time?

/not a chemist

XveryYpettyZ: Clearly the problem is the partial regulation of the industry. If we entirely deregulated the energy industry would stop looking for loopholes in the regulatory regime and take full and complete responsibility for the outcomes caused by their plants. Hobbes writes that the leviathan can be counted on to take the needs of the country into account, because the selfish needs of the leviathan and the needs of the country are one in the same. We need bigger energy companies with less oversight to force them into a position of responsibility and stewardship.

It's just like God wanted, to put all of the world in the stewardship of man. And now that corporations are legally men, who better?

The solution is to remove all regulations and restrictions on these kind of industrial wastes, but allow public lynchings for anyone in charge of the facility when it pollutes the environment like this. Not only lynchings, but all their personal worth, belongings, etc, are to be confiscated and sold, with the proceedings given to the victims or to help clean up the mess, and their children/spouses sold into forced labor.

/otherwise, let's have some stronger regulations

Ed Willy: This is in Eric Cantor's district. Rachel Maddow had a show Tuesday night I think where she mentioned he and the rest of the GOP house members voted to take away the EPA's authority to regulate this coal ash. Worse thing is the industry tries and claims coal ash isn't dangerous. I'd like to see them take a nice swig of water and eat some fish from the area.

Interestingly enough, this story is getting virtually no news coverage here in Wisconsin.

What's the fuss? Lead sinks.

Petey4335: depositing frothy slurry of coal ash--a hearty blend of selenium, lead, mercury and arsenic--into the cool blue waters of Lake Michigan.

Obviously subby doesn't live here.

As someone who grew up near the lake, You do not drink, swim, or eat the fish out of the lake. At least now we have our choice between raw liquid shiat from MMSD dumpings, the hoard of dead alewives, or power plant waste.

/eh what the heck do I know: I don't live close enough to the basin for my city to use lake Michigan water.
//we just pull up sand and radium from the wells.

Well, then Wisconsin can keep their pollution on their side of Lake Michigan, because people on the other side do swim and fish in the lake, and people to the south drink out of it. Oh wait, that's not possible, right?

The lack of environmental respect the lakes get is pretty amazing... shared resources, etc. etc.

/depressing

santadog: So Lake Michigan is finally on the same level as Lake Erie.

/former Clevelander

Nah, Lake Erie is actually one of the cleanest Great Lakes ...

/Because zebra mussels ...
//Just don't let them know that the animals cleaning the lake is killing it's native wildlife too!

Nuthin' like clean energy from coal!

How long before Catherine Coulter declares that it's good for our health?

theknuckler_33: I'm not saying this is no problem at all, but from a different article, Clean Harbors, the company hired by We Energies, will deploy 1,500 feet of linear boom on the water to contain the debris and fuel.... Lake Michigan has a surface area of over 22000 square miles. This spill is not only highly localized, but literally a drop in the bucket. Also, the other article says that coal ash was used as fill like 60 years ago. Didn't some of those harmful chemicals break down in the mean time?

/not a chemist

The problem with Coal Ash is that the chemicals in it don't really break down over time. What's left over after Coal is burnt off is usually basic elements concentrated in a harmful mix. There is some radioactivity in Coal Ash as well, although that will be reduced with time... like a few centuries worth of time.