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(The Michigan Messenger)   Michigan GOP: "Legalize it". And by "it", they mean bullying gay students   (michiganmessenger.com) divider line 311
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2011-11-04 10:44:06 AM

doglover: So part of the problem could be legislation, but mostly it's a generation of parents brainwashed by childless people's idealism who don't remember what it was like to be a kid in the bad old days of high school. For those of us who remember, we know how bad it can get.


This (thinking is backwards and destructive)!
 
2011-11-04 10:50:03 AM
What people with strong moral convictions might look like:

image.guardian.co.uk

www.sullivan-county.com

godhatesfundamentalists.com
 
2011-11-04 11:38:01 AM
You know, it occurs to me that religion is more of an artificial designation than homosexuality. At least science supports the idea of homosexuality being a natural variation. Religion is only cultural, and which one you get is largely determined by where you are born. You can also choose to stop being religious.
 
2011-11-04 12:01:10 PM

sheilanagig: You know, it occurs to me that religion is more of an artificial designation than homosexuality. At least science supports the idea of homosexuality being a natural variation. Religion is only cultural, and which one you get is largely determined by where you are born. You can also choose to stop being religious.


Are you suggesting religion is a lifestyle choice?

I like the cut of your jib.
 
2011-11-04 12:20:31 PM

KiltedBastich: SquiggelyGrounders: So by your analysis, wouldnt any group protesting against any class of people (gays, bankers, politicians, Big Pharma, etc) be guilty of harassment? The protest is to single out and draw attention to "bad" behavior of the protested. This seems like a form of humiliation and ostracism with rhetoric that is often demeaning explicitly and/or implicitly. On top of this the goal of the protest is to change the "bad" behavior. This seems like a form of bullying.

Did you miss the part where I mentioned, several times in this thread now, how it had to be directed at an individual, as opposed to the general public or society at large? It's a rather fundamental difference.


So protesting Casey Anthony, Bernie Madoff, or a convicted sex offender moving into you neighborhood is off limits?
 
2011-11-04 01:02:16 PM

SquiggelyGrounders: So protesting Casey Anthony, Bernie Madoff, or a convicted sex offender moving into you neighborhood is off limits?


Are you doing so purely to attack them as a person for no reason beyond dislike? Then yes, it's off limits. Like it or not, they are people with rights. Being convicted of a crime does not change that. If all they are doing is moving in to a new location to live, then you have no legitimate grounds for complaint. The most you could do is make sure the sex offender abides by any ongoing restrictions imposed by their sentencing.

You don't have to like them. You do have to refrain from harassing them. It's really very simple.
 
2011-11-04 02:35:35 PM

Paris1127: Michigan's motto is Si Quæris Peninsulam Amœnam Circumspice, "if you seek a pleasant peninsula, look around you." With this piece of shiat bill, they should really reconsider modifiying the motto... Any suggestions?


"If you seek a pleasant penis boy, watch your back"
 
2011-11-04 08:34:58 PM

Devolving_Spud: sheilanagig: You know, it occurs to me that religion is more of an artificial designation than homosexuality. At least science supports the idea of homosexuality being a natural variation. Religion is only cultural, and which one you get is largely determined by where you are born. You can also choose to stop being religious.

Are you suggesting religion is a lifestyle choice?

I like the cut of your jib.


Why yes, yes I am. I just don't like the idea of giving the religious a pass to pick on people. Even worse is the idea that they get a pass to pick on kids who don't conform to their idea of "right".
 
2011-11-06 12:37:26 PM

Kazan: why is it that you're always carrying water for the worst bigots around?


Why do I believe in the first amendment? Cuz it's kinda important.

Kazan: whenever it comes to religion you suck up to the most despicable worst of them


Have an example or are you completely making this up?

Kazan: how do you reconcile this hateful douchebag loving religious side of you (that's TOTALLY unchristian) to the rest of the time when you're a reasonably intelligent person


I'm not Christian. I'm not even religious. How do you reconcile that with your made up narrative about me?

Kazan: ok then, that means it's ok for me to call you a "pathetic sack of human shiat who doesn't have the mental fortitude to be done with childish fairy tales" every time i see you. after all, that's a "sincerely held moral conviction" of mine.


Fair enough. Hey, I think you're also pathetic sack of human shiat who doesn't have the mental fortitude to be done with childish fairy tales. But I don't sincerely hold that moral conviction. I'm just being a dickhead to you for shiats and giggles.

Now sit down for this - even this type of speech of yours/mine is protected. I can say whatever the fark I want. It's almost like there's some sort of right that protects speech.

The difference between you and me Kazan, is I don't want to force or impose my beliefs upon other people. You do. I get it, you're atheist. So am I. But I don't want to force atheist beliefs on the tards who are religious, I want to let them continue to be religious. You don't. It is what it is.
 
2011-11-06 12:41:28 PM

YouAreItNoTagBacks: /false equivalencies make you look like a dickcheeseburger (see that was rude and not exactly appropriate, but it's not like I called you a horse-farking cracker)


Are you bullying me? If we were in school, should I be able to call the cops on you for this?
 
2011-11-06 03:46:11 PM

lennavan: Are you bullying me? If we were in school, should I be able to call the cops on you for this?


Yes, actually, if you are being bullied in school to the point that it legally constitutes harassment, you should indeed be able to call the cops. After all, minors already get lenient treatment from the courts specifically to account for their diminished responsibility. Actually turning a blind eye to harassment sends the message that if you strong or popular you can get away with pushing people around without consequence. That's not the lesson you want a minor who shows a propensity for social aggression learning.
 
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