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(The Michigan Messenger)   Michigan GOP: "Legalize it". And by "it", they mean bullying gay students   (michiganmessenger.com) divider line 311
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2011-11-03 02:51:46 PM
Cool! I have a moral conviction to kick gingers.
 
2011-11-03 02:53:42 PM
Easy solution: act less gay!
 
2011-11-03 02:57:01 PM
i bet they are furious that the term "scared straight" has already been taken.
 
2011-11-03 03:00:09 PM
Aren't we supposed to be progressing as a species?
 
2011-11-03 03:02:24 PM
I cannot think of a single issue the GOP is correct about. They are wrong about everything, and many times shamelessly so.
 
2011-11-03 03:05:14 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: I cannot think of a single issue the GOP is correct about. They are wrong about everything, and many times shamelessly so.


This.

They really have fallen on the wrong side of just about everything.
 
2011-11-03 03:05:20 PM
Can someone just take a video of someone asking one the GOP sponsors of the bill:

"So..if you are a bully who has a strong religious conviction (i.e. Westboro-style) that all homosexuals should be dead, that would give said bully the right to pummel anyone who he percieved to be gay?"

Then put the video on every national news program every night for a week.
 
2011-11-03 03:07:33 PM
The full language of the insert is: "This section does not prohibit a statement of a sincerely held religious belief or moral conviction of a school employee, school volunteer, pupil, or a pupil and parent or guardian."

That is some truly awful legislation.
 
2011-11-03 03:08:25 PM

Soup4Bonnie: The full language of the insert is: "This section does not prohibit a statement of a sincerely held religious belief or moral conviction of a school employee, school volunteer, pupil, or a pupil and parent or guardian."

That is some truly awful legislation.


I have a sincere, moral conviction that Republicans are douchebags.
 
2011-11-03 03:11:23 PM
I don't see why we need anti-bullying legislation.

If this is happening in school, its a matter for the school admins and parents.

If its happening off school grounds, its a matter for parents, and police, in the case of threats, harassment or violence, police and courts already have the tools to address this.
 
2011-11-03 03:20:02 PM
Well, when bullies are in power, they are pro bully. Once they are out of power, they are anti-bully. Cause once they lose power, bullies are a bunch of pussies who go running home to cry to mama.

And the Republican party is a bunch of pussies.
 
2011-11-03 03:21:15 PM

vernonFL: I don't see why we need anti-bullying legislation.

If this is happening in school, its a matter for the school admins and parents.

If its happening off school grounds, its a matter for parents, and police, in the case of threats, harassment or violence, police and courts already have the tools to address this.


I blame Facebook and poor parenting and schools that have lawsuitaphobia, with the order depending on the circumstances.
 
2011-11-03 03:28:24 PM
What if my gang of anti-gay bullies wants to unionize?
 
2011-11-03 03:29:04 PM

Diogenes: Cool! I have a moral conviction to kick gingers.


Bring it.
 
2011-11-03 03:29:32 PM
Jackboots are flying off the shelves.
 
2011-11-03 03:29:35 PM
FTFBill: "This section does not prohibit a statement of a sincerely held religious belief or moral conviction of a school employee, school volunteer, pupil, or a pupil and parent or guardian."

I have a moral conviction against people who bully people just because of their sincerely held religious beliefs or moral convictions. Think I'll get a free pass?
 
2011-11-03 03:29:38 PM

Soup4Bonnie: The full language of the insert is: "This section does not prohibit a statement of a sincerely held religious belief or moral conviction of a school employee, school volunteer, pupil, or a pupil and parent or guardian."

That is some truly awful legislation.


Farkin' first amendment, how do they work?
 
2011-11-03 03:30:07 PM
Another proud moment in america. The world looks at you and just shakes their head.
 
2011-11-03 03:30:23 PM
Wow... I have no witty retort for this... I'm simply stunned...
 
2011-11-03 03:30:37 PM

sweetmelissa31: What if my gang of anti-gay bullies wants to unionize?


Sorry, that's not free market enough. You can, however, apply to be a church and get out of taxes.
 
2011-11-03 03:31:29 PM

GWLush: Aren't we supposed to be progressing as a species?


I believe this is the beginning of humanity's extinction. We had a good run.
/Can you really bully the gay out of someone?
 
2011-11-03 03:31:41 PM
You southern folk are just stupid.
 
2011-11-03 03:31:48 PM
I for one, am welcoming our 19th century relapse...

We really should bring back debtor's prisons too. For poor people.
 
2011-11-03 03:32:47 PM
So it will be perfectly OK for a teacher in Michigan to stand in front of the class and express their sincere moral conviction that Republican are purely evil?
 
2011-11-03 03:33:48 PM
Interesting.

So if a muslim, say, seriously believes that all christians are apostates and, while perhaps they shouldn't be put to the sword, their lives should at least be made a living hell, would he be allowed to bully Christians and Jewish people under this law? And the GOP would be cool with that?
 
2011-11-03 03:33:50 PM

vernonFL: I don't see why we need anti-bullying legislation.

If this is happening in school, its a matter for the school admins and parents.

If its happening off school grounds, its a matter for parents, and police, in the case of threats, harassment or violence, police and courts already have the tools to address this.


The obvious solution to any problem is more laws. Even if said laws are completely stupid.
 
2011-11-03 03:34:18 PM
wut?
 
2011-11-03 03:34:21 PM
The GOP really is despicable...
 
2011-11-03 03:34:26 PM
"This section does not prohibit a statement of a sincerely held religious belief or moral conviction of a school employee, school volunteer, pupil, or a pupil and parent or guardian."

Damn jews.
 
2011-11-03 03:34:43 PM

Felgraf: Interesting.

So if a muslim, say, seriously believes that all christians are apostates and, while perhaps they shouldn't be put to the sword, their lives should at least be made a living hell, would he be allowed to bully Christians and Jewish people under this law? And the GOP would be cool with that?


Hey, it does pave the way nicely for a Civil Rights Act repeal...
 
2011-11-03 03:34:56 PM

sprawl15: Farkin' first amendment, how do they work?


Your rights do not extend to the right to deny any other person of their rights or to harass or intimidate any other person. You have no more right to bully anybody for any reason than you do to haul off and punch them.

By the way, our argument is done and I've won it, so feel free to save yourself the further embarrassment of trying to form a cogent retort. You can't because the basic facts of the issue are stacked entirely against you and have been for more than two centuries now.
 
2011-11-03 03:34:58 PM
Congrats Michigan at making Missouri look sane by comparison.
 
2011-11-03 03:34:59 PM

Quasar: I have a sincere, moral conviction that Republicans are douchebags.


And saying that isn't prohibited because of the insert the Republicans placed in the bill. Or are you against free speech?
 
2011-11-03 03:35:11 PM

Soup4Bonnie: The full language of the insert is: "This section does not prohibit a statement of a sincerely held religious belief or moral conviction of a school employee, school volunteer, pupil, or a pupil and parent or guardian."

That is some truly awful legislation.


So does this allow students to call out their school administrators, teachers or any other idiot who tries condemning them as true douchebags and lecture them on what pathetic excuses for human beings they are since it would also count as a "sincerely held moral conviction"?

/or is it only for harassing the gheys and mooslimbs?
 
2011-11-03 03:35:46 PM
I am a member of the ethiopian zion coptic church, so if I bully you into smoking weed you can't do nothin about it! suck it conservatives!
 
2011-11-03 03:35:46 PM

Serious Black: FTFBill: "This section does not prohibit a statement of a sincerely held religious belief or moral conviction of a school employee, school volunteer, pupil, or a pupil and parent or guardian."

I have a moral conviction against people who bully people just because of their sincerely held religious beliefs or moral convictions. Think I'll get a free pass?


Let's try it. Walk into the capitol building in Lansing with an aluminum baseball bat and crack the skull of every Republican in the Senate. You may spend some time in prison, but let's be honest - it will be worth it. I'll even donate to your defense fund.
 
2011-11-03 03:35:54 PM

whidbey: I for one, am welcoming our 19th century relapse...

We really should bring back debtor's prisons too. For poor people.


Yeah, we sort of have those in Michigan too. (new window)
 
2011-11-03 03:35:59 PM
FTFA: the legislation provides an exception which allows bullying based on "moral convictions."

So if a bunch of gay thugs got together and beat the crap out of straight kids based on "moral convictions," that's okay?
 
2011-11-03 03:36:06 PM
If I believed in a god, I would politely request that he damn everyone who thinks this legislation is a great idea.

And gingers. (except for the hot female ones)
 
2011-11-03 03:36:09 PM

Felgraf: So if a muslim, say, seriously believes that all christians are apostates and, while perhaps they shouldn't be put to the sword, their lives should at least be made a living hell, would he be allowed to bully Christians and Jewish people under this law? And the GOP would be cool with that?



Uhhhhh.......errrrrmmm...........uhhhhhhhh............

9/11 changed everything!
 
2011-11-03 03:36:33 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: I cannot think of a single issue the GOP is correct about. They are wrong about everything, and many times shamelessly so.


It's called Bill Kristoling.
 
2011-11-03 03:36:46 PM

CanisNoir: And saying that isn't prohibited because of the insert the Republicans placed in the bill. Or are you against free speech?


Going into their office, following them on the street, and standing outside their home and screaming that in their face day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day until one of them kills themselves is not free speech, it's harassment. Just like it's harassment when one of those shiatheads, or a shiathead like yourself, does the same thing to a gay student. Or anybody else. Even disgusting people like you deserve that protection.
 
2011-11-03 03:36:47 PM
This thread is going to get bad quick
 
2011-11-03 03:36:51 PM

sweetmelissa31: What if my gang of anti-gay bullies wants to unionize?


What if my gang of flamboyantly gay bullies want to beat your bullies up?

Poor legislation leads to questions like these.
 
2011-11-03 03:37:15 PM
Time to bring up that "How to bully a Christian kid" website.
 
2011-11-03 03:37:42 PM

CanadianConservative: You southern folk are just stupid.


Michigan is a western state canadian colony.
 
2011-11-03 03:38:13 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: I cannot think of a single issue the GOP is correct about. They are wrong about everything, and many times shamelessly so.


It's called reverse psychology and understanding it is obviously above your pay grade.
 
2011-11-03 03:38:56 PM
Does that mean Muslims/Zoroastrians/Jews/Hindus/etc can hate on Christians and have it protected by the bullying law?
 
2011-11-03 03:39:30 PM

vernonFL: I don't see why we need anti-bullying legislation.

If this is happening in school, its a matter for the school admins and parents.

If its happening off school grounds, its a matter for parents, and police, in the case of threats, harassment or violence, police and courts already have the tools to address this.


stop making sense
 
2011-11-03 03:39:31 PM
Looking at this legislation in the absolute BEST possible light it basically says that if I say "I think you being gay means you're going to hell for you're morally reprehensible behavior based on my religious beliefs" then I am not, in fact, bullying that person.

What is means in every other light is it gives legal cover for people to act like douchebags....
 
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